It's Time to Upgrade Free Speech to Fair Speech

[mentalfloss]

Yeah, you did. He wasn't told to cease and desist with his message, he was told to stop using the phone to spread it. I don't care about some worthless CBC article, the simple fact is he was prosecuted for violating s.13(1), not for the message itself.

Boy are you thick.

Let's see how long it takes you to figure out why you are wrong. :lol:


James Keegstra had been teaching anti-Semitism to students in Eckville, Alta., for 14 years when a parent complained to the local school board about his lessons. It was 1982 and Keegstra was also Eckville's mayor.

The story received international attention and Keegstra was charged in 1984 under Canada's hate crime laws. He was convicted, but the decision was overturned on appeal after Keegstra's lawyer argued the law was unconstitutional because it violated Charter provisions on freedom of expression.

The Keegstra case continued to bounce around various courts until a landmark 1996 ruling by the Supreme Court. It said the Criminal Code section on public incitement of hatred did infringe on the Charter — but that infringement was justified — and upheld Keegstra's conviction.

 

[mentalfloss]

The German-born Zundel, who wrote the introduction to the book Did Six Million Jews Really Die?, was deported to Germany in 2005 after a Federal Court judge ruled he was a threat to national security.

 

[taxslave]

Boy are you thick.

Let's see how long it takes you to figure out why you are wrong. :lol:


James Keegstra had been teaching anti-Semitism to students in Eckville, Alta., for 14 years when a parent complained to the local school board about his lessons. It was 1982 and Keegstra was also Eckville's mayor.

The story received international attention and Keegstra was charged in 1984 under Canada's hate crime laws. He was convicted, but the decision was overturned on appeal after Keegstra's lawyer argued the law was unconstitutional because it violated Charter provisions on freedom of expression.

The Keegstra case continued to bounce around various courts until a landmark 1996 ruling by the Supreme Court. It said the Criminal Code section on public incitement of hatred did infringe on the Charter — but that infringement was justified — and upheld Keegstra's conviction.

Hey maybe we can use that one to stop teachers from indoctrinating little kids with their socialist blather.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Hey maybe we can use that one to stop teachers from indoctrinating little kids with their socialist blather.

Yeah, we need to get back to indoctrinating them with Old Stock Canadian blather!

 

[Colpy]

The German-born Zundel, who wrote the introduction to the book Did Six Million Jews Really Die?, was deported to Germany in 2005 after a Federal Court judge ruled he was a threat to national security.

Good.

Too bad we hadn't done that in 2015 to Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, who is not a Canadian citizen, and has no right to be here.

We need to start throwing out anyone suspected of radical views. No trial. Just arrest them, take them to the nearest airport, and send them back to where the came from. The only people that have the right to be here are Canadian citizens.

 

[taxslave]

Good.

Too bad we hadn't done that in 2015 to Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, who is not a Canadian citizen, and has no right to be here.

We need to start throwing out anyone suspected of radical views. No trial. Just arrest them, take them to the nearest airport, and send them back to where the came from. The only people that have the right to be here are Canadian citizens.

I would amend that to those that are born here and lawfull immigrant citizens. Lie on you citizenship application and out you go. No Cabinet post, no chshy government pension.Commit a serious crime and away goes you and your citizenship.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Good.

Too bad we hadn't done that in 2015 to Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, who is not a Canadian citizen, and has no right to be here.

We need to start throwing out anyone suspected of radical views. No trial. Just arrest them, take them to the nearest airport, and send them back to where the came from. The only people that have the right to be here are Canadian citizens.

Yes. Here's an example, of which I'm sure mentalfloss will approve.

A few years back, England played Ireland in a soccer match at Landsdowne Road stadium in Dublin (site of a massacre in the early 1900s). This was at the height of the British soccer hooligan period. Well, the Irish weren't stupid. They put all the ferry Brits in one section of the stands. Sure enough, pretty soon the Brits started tearing up the seats and throwing the pieces around.

Shock and horror as four hundred Gardai came boiling out of the tunnels. They surrounded the Brits, then went in, nightsticks swinging. They rounded up the whole lot and took them down to the ferry terminal. To the ones who complained that they had done nothing wrong, the simply replied "We're not arresting you. We're deporting you."

If you are not a citizen, you have no right whatsoever to be in the country. While you are there, you are entitled to due process of law. But the country allowed you in under legislative and administrative actions, not under any concept of rights, and the permission to be there can be revoked for any reason, or for no reason.

I'm heading to Europe later today, for two weeks. And I take with me the certain knowledge that I am a guest, and will be summarily invited to leave if I'm so foolish as to violate my hosts' rules. I won't scream for no lawyer, I'll just say "I'll go peacefully, officer. No need to rough me up."

 

[MHz]

The German-born Zundel, who wrote the introduction to the book Did Six Million Jews Really Die?, was deported to Germany in 2005 after a Federal Court judge ruled he was a threat to national security.

That shows how fuked we are. The only people that question that number are the people who have studied the documents. The local collective had not done any research at all. They are told what to believe and like a tight asshole they keep that inside until they die. There is nothing noble about being a sheeple. Maybe I should start a thread about the 'facts and the myths surrounding the Holocaust'.
Anybody got a dollar figure on how much money it has netted the Jews over the last 70 years?? (and still going strong)
I'll save all the proof for that thread, gives the trolls something to do until x-mas.

 

[Jinentonix]

Boy are you thick.

Let's see how long it takes you to figure out why you are wrong. :lol:

Not wrong shit-head. Ross was convicted of contravening s. 13(1) and refusing to abide by the cease and desist order. Nowhere in the ruling did it state he had to stop the message. He just had to stop using telecommunications to deliver it. It's a distinction with a difference.

But what's funny is you dredging up 30 year old cases while you ignore the fact that our chicken-shit authorities won't go after the mosques that preach hate and intolerance in Canada for fear of being labeled as racists.
You talk about Keegstra? How about the London-based Arab language publication that is nothing more than an anti-Jewish hate rag? When the Ontario govt learned of the content on the publication, what was their reaction? They pulled their ads from it. That's it. No prosecution. No cease and desist. No nothing. Just more leftards ignoring a problem because some Old Stock Whitey isn't behind it and they're scared of being labeled as racists.

 

[MHz]

Yes. Here's an example, of which I'm sure mentalfloss will approve.

A few years back, England played Ireland in a soccer match at Landsdowne Road stadium in Dublin (site of a massacre in the early 1900s). This was at the height of the British soccer hooligan period. Well, the Irish weren't stupid. They put all the ferry Brits in one section of the stands. Sure enough, pretty soon the Brits started tearing up the seats and throwing the pieces around.

Shock and horror as four hundred Gardai came boiling out of the tunnels. They surrounded the Brits, then went in, nightsticks swinging. They rounded up the whole lot and took them down to the ferry terminal. To the ones who complained that they had done nothing wrong, the simply replied "We're not arresting you. We're deporting you."

If you are not a citizen, you have no right whatsoever to be in the country. While you are there, you are entitled to due process of law. But the country allowed you in under legislative and administrative actions, not under any concept of rights, and the permission to be there can be revoked for any reason, or for no reason.

I'm heading to Europe later today, for two weeks. And I take with me the certain knowledge that I am a guest, and will be summarily invited to leave if I'm so foolish as to violate my hosts' rules. I won't scream for no lawyer, I'll just say "I'll go peacefully, officer. No need to rough me up."

Send us a pic of you at the wailing wall. I want to see if all your groveling has paid off in any useful way. (I'm kinda liking this free speech thing once I got a peek at the 'damage' it can do to certain eyes)

Not wrong shit-head. Ross was convicted of contravening s. 13(1) and refusing to abide by the cease and desist order. Nowhere in the ruling did it state he had to stop the message. He just had to stop using telecommunications to deliver it. It's a distinction with a difference.

But what's funny is you dredging up 30 year old cases while you ignore the fact that our chicken-shit authorities won't go after the mosques that preach hate and intolerance in Canada for fear of being labeled as racists.
You talk about Keegstra? How about the London-based Arab language publication that is nothing more than an anti-Jewish hate rag? When the Ontario govt learned of the content on the publication, what was their reaction? They pulled their ads from it. That's it. No prosecution. No cease and desist. No nothing. Just more leftards ignoring a problem because some Old Stock Whitey isn't behind it and they're scared of being labeled as racists.

Perhaps they should be an equal opportunity entity. ACT for America is a hate group specifically targeting Muslims and it had Government support. Would that be the case if the organization backing them weren't Jewish organizations. Given a list of shit being caused over the last 100 years who is guilty, Jews or Muslims. Before you don't reply let me remind you there are hours and hours of documented evidence that the Balfour Declaration was the capitulation of GB into helping the bankers set up the Israel we have today. You know the one that is an (mythical God to said Jews) entity from the Holy Bible created.

 

[mentalfloss]

We need to start throwing out anyone suspected of radical views. No trial. Just arrest them, take them to the nearest airport, and send them back to where the came from. The only people that have the right to be here are Canadian citizens.

When do we get to send you back to America?

 

[MHz]

Once America is revived.

 

[mentalfloss]

Lol

Well here's a racist I'm sure he will denounce..


David Ahenakew, a once-powerful leader of the Assembly of First Nations, was stripped of his Order of Canada for remarks about Jews in 2002.

During a speech at a gathering of First Nations leaders in Saskatoon, Ahenakew launched into a barely comprehensible diatribe and made anti-Semitic remarks. He repeated those comments to a reporter, and after the news was published, Ahenakew was charged with promoting hatred.

The court proceedings were protracted, but an initial conviction was overturned and, after a second trial, Ahenakew was acquitted. The Saskatchewan chief died in 2010, at 76.

 

[JamesBondo]

When do we get to send you back to America?

You sound like Trump. Therefore, you must be wrong. No discussion required

 

[mentalfloss]

If I sounded like Trump, then you would agree with me.

 

[Danbones]

So...on your planet only propaganda would be allowed.

In symbology, "air" always represented "thought", so I'm guessing that you live on the moon.

 

[mentalfloss]

So...on your planet only propaganda would be allowed.

And wildly assumptive hyperbole.

 

[Colpy]

When do we get to send you back to America?

My family has been here since 1782, and my ancestors (both sides) fled America after supporting the Crown in the American Revolution.

BTW, MF, I'm going move into your house.

I'll be staying forever.

You don't mind that I have views you find absolutely repugnant, and that I'm armed to the teeth do you?

You have no right to remove me........

This country is our house. Only family has a right to be here.

And wildly assumptive hyperbole.

That is not a denial.

 

[Jinentonix]

Send us a pic of you at the wailing wall. I want to see if all your groveling has paid off in any useful way. (I'm kinda liking this free speech thing once I got a peek at the 'damage' it can do to certain eyes)


Perhaps they should be an equal opportunity entity. ACT for America is a hate group specifically targeting Muslims and it had Government support. Would that be the case if the organization backing them weren't Jewish organizations. Given a list of shit being caused over the last 100 years who is guilty, Jews or Muslims. Before you don't reply let me remind you there are hours and hours of documented evidence that the Balfour Declaration was the capitulation of GB into helping the bankers set up the Israel we have today. You know the one that is an (mythical God to said Jews) entity from the Holy Bible created.

I don't respond to insanity. This has nothing to do with ACT or the US or Jews. So quit making every goddam subject into some f*cking Jewish conspiracy you knuckle-dragging troglodyte.

 

[mentalfloss]

My family has been here since 1782, and my ancestors (both sides) fled America after supporting the Crown in the American Revolution.

BTW, MF, I'm going move into your house.

I'll be staying forever.

You don't mind that I have views you find absolutely repugnant, and that I'm armed to the teeth do you?

You have no right to remove me........

This country is our house. Only family has a right to be here.



That is not a denial.

No sense of humour x 2.