In that case we should set free everyone whom is currently in prisons and jails because "an innocent people" might be serving time.
It's time to bring the death penalty back!
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In that case we should set free everyone whom is currently in prisons and jails because "an innocent people" might be serving time.
My $0.02 worth on this subject:
The death penalty is not a deterrent. It does not reduce crime rates. It makes juries reluctant to convict. Crime is not out of control, rates for most offenses have been falling pretty consistently for decades. I am not prepared to kill another person except in an extreme case of self-defense or defense of those I love best, when there is no other alternative but him or me and my loved ones. But in general, no, killing people solves nothing, I won't do it and I don't want the state doing it on my behalf. I would rather pay the taxes necessary to sustain those people in prison until they die of natural causes. I'd let any number of murderers go free rather than risk killing someone wrongfully convicted.
In my public life I'm a peaceable man, live and let live, but in my private life... well, hurt my wife or children and you're going down as hard as I can make it happen. But away from the passions of such a moment, I say no, the death penalty as a result of a dispassionate judicial process is barbaric and I want no part of it.
The death penalty is not a deterrent. It does not reduce crime rates. It makes juries reluctant to convict. Crime is not out of control, rates for most offenses have been falling pretty consistently for decades. I am not prepared to kill another person except in an extreme case of self-defense or defense of those I love best, when there is no other alternative but him or me and my loved ones. But in general, no, killing people solves nothing, I won't do it and I don't want the state doing it on my behalf. I would rather pay the taxes necessary to sustain those people in prison until they die of natural causes. I'd let any number of murderers go free rather than risk killing someone wrongfully convicted.
In my public life I'm a peaceable man, live and let live, but in my private life... well, hurt my wife or children and you're going down as hard as I can make it happen. But away from the passions of such a moment, I say no, the death penalty as a result of a dispassionate judicial process is barbaric and I want no part of it.
In any justice system, occasionally an innocent person will be convicted. No justice system is perfect. That doesn’t mean that we must throw away the entire justice system and free all the criminals, that is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
However, if it comes to light that an innocent person has been convicted, the government can try to make at least partial amends. He would be released forthwith; perhaps financial compensation can be made to him.
The problem with the death penalty is that if it turns out that the wrong person has been killed there is no way to make any recompense, except to shrug one’s shoulders, say “oh well, too bad” and go on to the next execution.
Quite so, Dexter. Our justice system is predicated upon the premise that it doesn’t matter if 100 guilty persons go free, but not a single innocent person must be convicted. There are apparently some here who think the other way (it doesn’t matter if 100 innocent persons are convicted, as long as we get that one guilty S.O.B.)
"The problem with the death penalty is that if it turns out that the wrong person has been killed there is no way to make any recompense, except to shrug one’s shoulders, say “oh well, too bad” and go on to the next execution."
That is about the forty seventh time you've said that and for the forty eighth time I'm telling you we only execute the sure cases like Manson, Olson, Bernardo.
That is about the forty seventh time you've said that and for the forty eighth time I'm telling you we only execute the sure cases like Manson, Olson, Bernardo.
I wasn't aware that she was such a fragile personality that she needed your knighthood. It's nice to know she's got two protectors to come rushing to her aid everytime someone disagrees with her.
While the physical DNA is, in itself, by itself, quite reliable, the physical DNA must be collected by someone, delivered by someone, analyzed by someone, reported on by someone, submitted as evidence by someone...and therefore, DNA evidence can be manipulated.
Let's bring back flogging, caning, the lash, work gangs and the poor house,too..then we can be a totally retro nation.[P.S. this is tongue in cheek]
That might not be a bad idea.Let's bring back flogging, caning, the lash, work gangs and the poor house,too..then we can be a totally retro nation.[P.S. this is tongue in cheek]
Cut off a hand for stealing, and after 2 convictions I doubt you will try to steal a third time...
Well I've been told by christians that I'm guilty from birth and that I will have to pay for it when I'm inevitably caught, so you can understand where that poor miserable soul got that uncharitable thought. no I'm not picking on you:smile:
As someone who was personally affected by one of the serial killer repeatedly mentioned I'd like to say we're glad he is still alive.
Why morons??
I myself have noticed that quite often when a person is convicted of a serious offense, it's not unheard of for him to have a rap sheet with a few dozen convictions. If you think that a person who is out to kill/rape/rob you is simply having one bad day, wouldn't you have to be a little naive? Eh Ger?
The death penalty will never come back because of this phrase:
Section 7: right to life, liberty, and security of the person.
While I have no respect for those criminals who take life, they are still protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Personally, I think it should be amended so that if you are convicted of taking a life, and thereby taking away the victims rights, you should be stripped of your own rights accordingly.
My friends suggests that if a person is convicted of a serious crime, they should be airlifted and dropped into Afghanistan with an American flag tattooed to his forehead. Out of sight.... out of mind. LOL
Section 7: right to life, liberty, and security of the person.
While I have no respect for those criminals who take life, they are still protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Personally, I think it should be amended so that if you are convicted of taking a life, and thereby taking away the victims rights, you should be stripped of your own rights accordingly.
My friends suggests that if a person is convicted of a serious crime, they should be airlifted and dropped into Afghanistan with an American flag tattooed to his forehead. Out of sight.... out of mind. LOL