Still doesn't justify executing people, which was my point. If their case is dismissed, maybe it was a lousy case, and they should be more dilligent. Which they are not, in many cases.
Yep, I have it backwards.
It's time to bring the death penalty back!
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Still doesn't justify executing people, which was my point. If their case is dismissed, maybe it was a lousy case, and they should be more dilligent. Which they are not, in many cases.
Yep, I have it backwards.
My lack of knowledge? I'm not the one asking about having to execute innocents on death row. Maybe you should take a good look at your post.
I agree.
Have innocent people been put in prison by mistake? Yes, of course it does happen. Now because of that should we not throw criminals in prison that are clearly guilty? No. There is no such thing as a perfect system, and mistakes will happen once in a while. That's why when you sentence someone to death, there has to be no doubt that the criminal has commited the act.
You'd be surprised how many cops are disgruntled with our justice system. My aunt is dating a police officer and he talks to me alot bout his work. I was actually surprised to hear him say that he (along with many of his colleagues) don't even want to arrest people anyomore because the punishment will be too light or the case is dismissed. All they want to do is right tickets now, at least that way the offender has to pay for full amount of the offence. Another one that surprised me was that he supports vigilantes, as do many of his fellow officers.
Man, you know there's a problem when cops don't even want to arrest people anymore, and have others do their job for them.
If a person that I executed was later found to be innocent, yeah it would suck and I'd fell bad for the person. But mistakes happen with everything, there is no such thing as a perfect system. The lawyers, judge, and jury (assuming it was a trial by jury) should have done their tasks better (in hindsight) but things are always easier to analyze and critic in hindsight. Mistakes happen, and everyone will just have to live with it and move on.
I was never trying to justify executing anyone. I just want to clarify that it is my belief that Judges are the ones to blame for our very poor justice system.
Excellent but .... best you don't try that too often. Ya can't win em' all. Better stay with the girls your own age. They won't want you to run up a staircase too often! ;-) (I run up 24 steps everyday at work and I can tell you that I am glad to see the top so there are no more to run):lol:Very good! Went out for a walk with a young friend yesterday and ended up running up a very long steep staircase at the water front. Made my legs feel like rubber but it did it without chest pain. Trying to keep up with that girl is the most excise I've had in years. Now if she only didn't have a hang up about our age difference....
I don't think that happens often in first degree murder cases, with the possible exception where innocent by reason of insanity is the verdict.
All the women my age are fuddy duddies. One said to me today to watch out I don't drop dead trying a stunt like that. I said,"What difference would it make?" I would rather die trying than a long slow painful one.
I don't necessarily agree that it's cruel and unusual punishment. I think that most of them live in a world of their own that is unusual anyway. How cruel can it be to give them a place to live where they have a bed, they are warm and they are fed? Removing them from society is the only way to go. It is extremely rare for any of these people to be rehabilitated.
Hmm! I think I take exception to that!!! lol Spade Darlin' - should we take exception to his age reference? I admit he's older but golly gee - it's not like we could start calling him "Dad" now is it.? You were never even old enough to babysit either of us at anytime in your life Cliff. However - I do recall Spade saying that he was feeling old awhile back. I can feel tired, cold, warm, hungry but I'll be damned if I'll ever admit to feeling old before I'm 80! Fuddy Duddy! HuH!!!:lol::lol:
I'm insane. I'm crazy about that young stuff!:lol:
As for justice, nobody seems to agree what that means anymore. The system has been taken over by lawyers who don't care if someone is guilty or not, just what they can make off the deal. An acquittal is worth more than a guilty verdict. A friend of mine was up in court on a minor charge .
He found someone who knew how to find a lawyer who went to school with the prosecutor. He brought him in from Van and he stayed the night at the prosecutor's house. When they went into court, I watched as they played out a well rehearsed act before the judge. Everything was a forgone conclusion before it even started and we knew about it before hand. Court is just a stage where actors play roles. In high profile cases it is more like a debating contest but minor ones are just for show.
You talked with one cop and he told you that he supports vigilanteism! He must be a fool. He should be very careful in stating that his fellow officers support vigilanteism as well. I think Mindy Tran would come to mind in this regard.
They have to do a lot more than write tickets - like it or not. They may not like the justice system anymore than many of us do but they don't become vigilantes because of it. That's why Mindy Tran's killer walked. That and a juror without a brain.
Let's see, your avatar and your conversation tell me you are about what - 18 - 20 years old?
I be talkin' bout the womens around here my dear - the ones I know. You are only as old as you feel and it seems they feel old.:-(
For politicians ,especially Chretien and his gang of no good SOBs, lynch 'em and
hang 'em from the highest tree .
That's my point of view and I am happy to share it with you .:canada:
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VanIsle- I think you are wrong as far as Mindy Trans alleged killer goes. He may be a dumb Newfie, but I'm quite positive they never did have the right guy. He sure doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would hurt children. The cops screwed up on that one.
In other words, because they can't do their job properly, they'd rather not do it at all.
Nice to know you have slack, lazy police officers around there. Around here, most of them try to find the guilty party, and try to collect proper evidence.