The innocent civilians being massacred aren't enemies.
They elected a government, Hamas, to represent them. Hamas regularly lobs missiles into Israel. I don't know of any "friends" that fire missiles at their "friends".
The innocent civilians being massacred aren't enemies.
See? There it is again, leaping to unjustified conclusions, this time based on things I didn't say, I nowhere expressed support for what Israel's doing, and you have to toss in some gratuitous name calling too. That's why I don't engage with people like you on this issue. Your understanding of this is far too simplistic, you don't think clearly, you don't know enough, and you're not willing to take anyone seriously who disagrees with you, so you'll never learn anything more about it. It's not possible to have a reasoned conversation with you. So go ahead, give me another red one and display again how little you understand.God , another pro-Israel half-wit. .
God , another pro-Israel half-wit.
With respect, we should all just tone it down a little.. Name calling is not necessary to get your point across.
Yeah, there are a few on this forum that are pro-Israel and plenty that are anti-Israel and a few that just could give a dam.
I'm guessing gore0bsessed, darkbeaver and MHz are Muslim, otherwise they wouldn't have such strong opinions against Israel, which does not make their opinion any less valuable..
We live in Canada, and we are very lucky. Your neighbor may be Jewish, Catholic, Muslim but we are not shooting rockets at each other, or trying to kill each other.. the majority of us get along with each other on a day to day basis, are polite and go out of the way to help one another.
Personally, I'm not sure why the rest of the world can't be as perfect as Canada..
I posted a video above of Bill Maher, I think he said really all that has to be said.. war sucks and people do get killed.
Personally, I hope they can find peace and work thing out.
Bill Maher, Conservative, Liberal Progressives agree who's to blame for Israel - Gaza conflict - YouTube
Peace Out!!
You're not right, I'm not a Muslim. I'm just strongly against militaries that target innocent civilians including children.
Here different religious people get along because we don't have the issue of another invading force occupying another.
To do so, they would have to negotiate with Hamas, who has sworn not only to destroy Israel totally, but has indicated its desire to murder all Jews.
The IDF is now using the Nazi example of retaliation. 10 civilian hostages, women and children included, for every German soldier killed.
Except Israel has upped the ante.. its now 30 innocent die for every Israeli. That has nothing to do with God's favour.. no proportional and commensurate use of force..only arrogance and delusion.. and discouragement of justice by way of terror.. and it will turn on Isreal.
Not one person in ten can think intelligently about this situation or knows enough of the relevant history--which goes back to the outcome of WW1, at least for the modern issues--to talk about it sensibly, which is why, despite the breathtaking ignorance and insensitivity displayed in the OP and my general policy of challenging ignorance, I don't usually involve myself in such exchanges. Doesn't take long before somebody throws out the Nazi accusation, though it doesn't usually start off with the OP, and then the discussion degenerates into nonsense.
Until Israel sets up an industrial scale system of death camps for identifying, rounding up, transporting, jailing, robbing, executing, and cremating, Palestinians, you can't play the Nazi card in criticizing Israel without showing yourself to be an ignorant idiot. And further to that, the Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel and the creation of an Islamic state--Sharia law and all--in the territory,Hamas also wants to see the obliteration of ALL the world's Jews, and not only denies the Holocaust, but says it should have happened and they'd do it if they could. That's a fairly common tune among Israel's other neighbours too. They also freely use their own people as human shields, send suicide bombers to target non-combatants, lob explosives into civilian areas, dig tunnels into Israel to send terror squads against civilians... No moral person can support Hamas.
You are a Jew hating Nazi liar.
900 of the dead are militants. The almost 1:1 ratio of combatant to civilian dead is unheard of in modern warfare, where the expected cost is between 3 and 10 civilian dead for every combatant...........those are FACTS.
What you have posted is either completely inaccurate or so rife with partial truths that the info and opinion is useless.
Facts are facts.
You are a Jew hating Nazi liar.
900 of the dead are militants. The almost 1:1 ratio of combatant to civilian dead is unheard of in modern warfare, where the expected cost is between 3 and 10 civilian dead for every combatant...........those are FACTS.
Civilian dead in Gaza are 1843 +... Iseali dead. 63 soldiers and 3 civilians.
You're quite the little fascist, aren't you Colpy... no regard for Truth or Justice.
When I'm done do you want to borrow the electronic device that is used on bulls in Alberta to get sperm in vast quantities? It has an Israeli manufacturer like the TENS machine. The only thing specific to Jewish is the Bible. You bring up an interesting point though, Arabs and Indians are 3rd world citizens are 3rd world citizens in the eyes of 'Westernized Canadians'. Little below our standards and abilities when our deeds are based on having every opportunity laid at our feet to use in out role of 'leader'. Our system has 3 parts, the bankers, the businessmen and the consumers. I'll send you some coupons for the viagra, have a good long weekend.Fukk off ya fool, go back to jerking off your Camel, troll.
Like the two terms have anything in common. That's alright though as it does bring up some some points that support your position and Bill is one of your heroesWatch this for a reality check.
Bill Maher makes the argument that Jews and atheists, which has a lot of scientists, focus on science and technological advances that help humanity, but Hamas and Islamic groups use money they have to kill infidels and advance Islam.
I guess that solves the case and everybody can go home. You might find that some of these shows are 'scripted. I'm thinking an unscripted show with those people and this additional one would change the tone of the show quite a bit.On Bill Maher's show he had a Conservative Jewish writer from the Daily Caller and Leftist Liberal Progressive Jane Harman and they all agree who is to blame for this Israel -- Gaza Hamas conflict.
Promotes it or just doesn't have a clue about what is written in the Bible. Did you see his mocumentry on religion? One expert was so high he lit his own hair on fire and didn't know it. Go find his views on the old earth creation theory, there aren't and his arguments are borrowed from a bunch of different places, that doesn't make it error free.Bill Maher is a well known Leftist Liberal atheist and promotes atheism
If you look at all of the last century it was the West that were starting wars and the sanctions when they couldn't get what they wanted through wars was a punishment. Iran would have been modernized if the CIA inspired coup in 1953 didn't happen. After 25 years of a brutal rule under a US puppet they kicked the US out. Since then it has been nothing but sanctions that prevent modernization and you blame it on them being Muslim. The most brutal regime in the area is Saudi and Bahrain, no call from the Werst for them to adopt democracy. That kind of regime is just what control from the West will bring. The 25 years Iran experienced is what Saudi and Bahrain will experience for the next 100 years, with blessings from the West.and he goes down the list that maybe it is Hamas and the Palestinians faith of Islam that keeps them in poverty and in conflict.
Israel couldn't even bribe Jews in Iran to 'come home'. What percent of Jews live outside of Israel and their lives are not endless torment and they certainly don't send all their excess money home yet demand Gentiles pay most of the 'bills'.He states that believing in the Quran and the lies of Muhammad might be what is holding the Palestinians back, while the Jews of Israel have many atheists, humanists, Christians, and other people living freely in their SECULAR country.
Given free reign OPEC could spend Israel and the West into a hole so deep they could never spend their way out. Perhaps ISIS can grab Saudi for Israel and they can use that as a FEMA camp for Muslims.That is the difference between an Islamic state based on Islam and Sharia law and a secular country like Israel.
That's good you have a reference, it shows your insanity is based on 'somebody else doing the driving'.Bill Maher Rules...
So basically a piece of paper blew over 'the wall', after what sounded like a big explosion, into the hands of the IDF in pristine condition just like that passport on 9/11. Wow.Colpy;1959637 BTW said:Hamas[/B] Ministry of Health.
REALLY?? You think ALL the dead in Gaza are civilians?? Geez, you must be striking for a Hamas propagandist...
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Notice anything funny?? Remember the median age in Gaza is 15. That means with indiscriminate killing, those younger than 15 should make up half the deaths.
Then one half of the population is female. So, with indiscriminate killing, one half of the adult casualties should be female.
Please explain the discrepancy which shows the dead are overwhelmingly military age males??
BTW, the figures used to create the graph are from the Hamas Ministry of Health.
Where does the graph separate Hamas from civilians?REALLY?? You think ALL the dead in Gaza are civilians?? Geez, you must be striking for a Hamas propagandist...
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Notice anything funny?? Remember the median age in Gaza is 15. That means with indiscriminate killing, those younger than 15 should make up half the deaths.
Then one half of the population is female. So, with indiscriminate killing, one half of the adult casualties should be female.
Please explain the discrepancy which shows the dead are overwhelmingly military age males??
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Where does the graph separate Hamas from civilians?
The 'spike showing males from 14-40 are being targeted specifically and as you say they are not yje highest population group. 250 more killed and Israel says it is not random so the occupation of Hamas is elected persons and the Police and the Teachers.
'Military aged' does not put them in uniform you stunned (insert several profanities here).
The schools keep getting hit because that is where the phones for the teachers are. 7 times would mean teaching is a dangerous occupation, as is being a child.It's easy to answer simpleton, most men shield their women and children and die in the process. I'm not surprised that did not occur to you.
He was on that cruise ship that Israel boarded in the deep of the night.It is PRESS TV you ****ing moron!
So Hamas is the only ones the that feed the NSA their info cannot hack and track. Do you not remember the brag that Israel phones ahead and tells the people to leave?Oh I see....those crafty Jews have special magic bombs that kill mostly males when they bomb indiscriminately..........brilliant!!
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