Israel's genocide of Palestine

petros

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So why does Hamas keep firing rockets??

If Hamas is just a reasonable organization, why don't they realize what Israel will send them in return and agree to a cease fire and engage in meaningful discussions??

Seems your argument is not a very balanced one, rather naive at best.

Did the oppression end? No? Well there ya go son.
 

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So why does Hamas keep firing rockets??

If Hamas is just a reasonable organization, why don't they realize what Israel will send them in return and agree to a cease fire and engage in meaningful discussions??

Seems your argument is not a very balanced one, rather naive at best.

Did you follow the so called peace talks between Israel and the PLO - Nutanyahoo threw every roadblock possible up to derail these talks.
Israels present Govt does not want a 2 state agreement.
And when those 3 teens disappeared, Hamas members were named, so Israel went on mass arrests in the West Bank.
Only a fool would not see this coming and Nutanyahoo planned it that way.
 

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When you ignore everything Israel does like Durry does, and only focuses on Hamas' rockets, then it's easy to demonize only the one side.
 

petros

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Did you follow the so called peace talks between Israel and the PLO - Nutanyahoo threw every roadblock possible up to derail these talks.
Israels present Govt does not want a 2 state agreement.
And when those 3 teens disappeared, Hamas members were named, so Israel went on mass arrests in the West Bank.
Only a fool would not see this coming and Nutanyahoo planned it that way.

I posted a link to even more links that show both Mossad and Shin Bet are at odds with Nutlessyahud on trying to make peace. He doesn't want peace at all. If they(Palestinians) have their own country they can finally lay charges.

When you ignore everything Israel does like Durry does, and only focuses on Hamas' rockets, then it's easy to demonize only the one side.

He's 16 and is clueless.


See above link Goobs.
 

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I posted a link to even more links that show both Mossad and Shin Bet are at odds with Nutlessyahud on trying to make peace. He doesn't want peace at all. If they(Palestinians) have their own country they can finally lay charges.



He's 16 and is clueless.



See above link Goobs.

Read that earlier. A good read.
 

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Yes, in addition to the banks accounts of the family members of the suicide bombers... The families really make out like bandits
Why you use Arafats widow's millions when the money came from Israel and/or the US?
Isn't there a TV series running right now that has some CIA super-spy go rouge agent taking on the US Govt face-to-face and winning at every level. Using US citizens to do terrorist acts to save a child in their family. Could look up the name again if you like, the series is the woman's version of Jack Bauer.
 

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Only a fool would not see this coming and Nutanyahoo planned it that way.
Not that I am one to promote a conspiracy but aren't all these Leaders for most of the last 'while' all been reading speeches that were handed to them. The Govt presentations to the Media were not originated within any part of the Govt so they are only mouthpieces. Doesn't matter what started this 'wind of change' as long as it has some positive results. Too bad it ends up being a set-up just like all the other times. If the plan has a final ending that is not all that pleasant then the only good news is 'their' plans and the end are not ever on the same page.
 

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When you ignore everything Israel does like Durry does, and only focuses on Hamas' rockets, then it's easy to demonize only the one side.

It was the firing of the rockets by Hamas that started this particular war. No firing of rockets, no war!! That's a good start!!

There is no denying by anyone that Israel has a perfect right to defend itself.
 

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It was the firing of the rockets by Hamas that started this particular war. No firing of rockets, no war!! That's a good start!!

There is no denying by anyone that Israel has a perfect right to defend itself.
Guess the mass arrests in the West Bank had SFA to do with this.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/mass-arrests-in-west-bank-as-search-for-kidnapped-teens-continues/
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.599757

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-pm-accuses-hamas-of-kidnapping-3-missing-teens-1.2676182
 

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Population Growth Rate and Birth Rate aren't the same thing.
You're claiming Palestine's birth rate that's equal to poverty-stricken African nations is a good indicator that genocide isn't possible.

You are absolutely ignoring what I am saying

Do the math.

The birthrate in Palestine contributed to a four fold increase in population, from about 1 million to about 4 million between 1970 and 2010.

According to UN statistics, between 1950 and 1965 the number of deaths in Palestine remained stable at about 19,000 per year.

Then, in 1967, Israel takes over........and between 1965 and 1970, the average number of deaths DROPS by 3,000 per year.

Between 1970 and 1975, the number of deaths drops by ANOTHER 2,000 per year..........meanwhile, the population begins a growth spurt.

Nonetheless, Between 1975 and 1980, the number of deaths once again drops by ANOTHER 1,000 per year, as the population grows rapidly......

Between 1980 and 1985, another drop of 2,000 deaths a year, even though the population is booming........and stabilizes at 11,000 per year until 1995.........when it begins to go up slightly. Remember the population these deaths occur in has obviously doubled or tripled.........

Until in 2005 to 2010, the rate is 14,000 per year, despite pitched battles.

Compare death rates: in 1965 - 19,000 out of 1 million people, or 1900 out of 100,000 per year
Compare death rates: in 2010 - 14,000 out of 4 million people, or 350 out of 100,000 per year.

In other words, the DEATH RATE in Palestine was well over FIVE TIMES worse BEFORE Israel took it over.

In other words, being under Israeli control SAVED 1550 people out of every 100,000 Palestinians each year.

And you people have the GALL to call it genocide.

Now, please, try and find fault with my figures.

Apologies will be accepted with good grace at any time.
 
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On 25 July, BBC correspondent Jon Donnison tweeted that Israeli police spokesman Mickey Rosenfeld admitted that the kidnappings did not occur on the orders of, or with the knowledge of the Hamas leadership, and that the crime was the action of a "lone cell".[24][25]

Crazy that a couple rogues starts this whole mess.
 

petros

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It was the firing of the rockets by Hamas that started this particular war. No firing of rockets, no war!! That's a good start!!

There is no denying by anyone that Israel has a perfect right to defend itself.

Sorry Droopy it was because Nutlessyahud lied about 3 teens being kidnapped and murdered by Qawasmehs and blamed Hamas which lead to settlers murdering a 17 year old Palestinian and then the rockets stated to fly.
 

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When you ignore everything Israel does like Durry does, and only focuses on Hamas' rockets, then it's easy to demonize only the one side.

... Much like the way that you 'forget' about the thousands of missiles that land in Israel each and every year

Why you use Arafats widow's millions when the money came from Israel and/or the US?
Isn't there a TV series running right now that has some CIA super-spy go rouge agent taking on the US Govt face-to-face and winning at every level. Using US citizens to do terrorist acts to save a child in their family. Could look up the name again if you like, the series is the woman's version of Jack Bauer.

There none so blind a those that refuse to see.

PA spends 6% of its budget paying Palestinians in Israeli jails, families of suicide bombers | The Times of Israel
Families of suicide bombers given £5m in British aid cash | Mail Online
Arab Bank Pays Out Blood Money: Life Insurance for Palestinian Suicide Bombers - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Salaries For Suicide Bombers - CBS News
Salaries For Suicide Bombers: Western States Unwittingly Fund Terrorist Activities In Palestine, Says Report
 

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A war killing people is different from a kidnapping.

Try putting things into perspective!!

Did you even try to follow the events. All planned. In particular if the teens had been murdered.
I think you need a GPS to find your a-s-s.