Israeli court rejects US activist's family lawsuit

[earth_as_one]

I like Colpy. He doesn't have to agree with me or even like me for me to respect his opinion and enjoy reading his posts.

 

[CDNBear]

I like Colpy. He doesn't have to agree with me or even like me for me to respect his opinion and enjoy reading his posts.

Your sucking up aside. That's great. He, like most of us, still thinks you're a Jew hating idiot, lol.

 

[MapleDog]

A little off topic,but before you continue thinking there is a conspiracy against the jews.
Les policières de Montréal devraient s'effacer devant un membre de la communauté juive hassidique - YouTube

Couldn't find any video in english,but it mention that jews in montreal act like total idiots,most of them.

We're supposed to live in a country that has evolved to an equal opportunity for all,men and women,but we let a group of archaic cavemen,treat women like they were sh*t.

 

[DaSleeper]

Question:
What is the difference between Jehovah witnesses going door to door, week after week even though they get rebuffed at most of the doors they knock on................................................

and

EAO day after day on CC....spewing his muslim anti-Israel propaganda even though most everyone don't believe a bloody word he says.????????

I know why the Jehovah Witnesses do it..........but......EAO??????

 

[earth_as_one]

For the record. I am agnostic and view all religions similarly. I have never written a negative post about any religion including Judaism and Islam. I don't consider one religion as having more merit than another. I support everyone's right to follow their religious spiritual path without interference or discrimination.

 

[CDNBear]

Thank you for the invitation, to debate "you"...

I have never written a negative post about any religion including Judaism and Islam.

Complete and utter lies.

I'd say almost 75% of your posts on this site alone, are meant only to demonize Israel. A State you consider the "Jewish State".

Thus you denigrate Jews.

Furthermore, you have promoted the illegitimacy of Israel, from its inception.

You ignore anything that refutes your claims.

You believe anything that even remotely smears Israel, while anything that refutes your claims or your posts, is held to a far greater standard.

The culmination of these facts indicate a level of hate, usually reserved for die hard racists of the 1960's.

 

[earth_as_one]

For the record... I post information I believe to be accurate regarding war crimes and war criminals. Since our MSM seldom reports Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity, I see my posts as a public service which address this shortcoming.

If our leaders and MSM condemned all war crimes and crimes against humanity equally, I would not feel a need to raise awareness of war crimes and war criminals they don't condemn. As far as I know, the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is the only one where our leaders and MSM don't condemn all the war criminals equally. In fact the Harper government unshakably supports one group of war criminals over another, when the best Canadian policy IMO, would be to condemn both side's war crimes and not pick sides.

 

[DaSleeper]

For the record. I am agnostic and view all religions similarly. I have never written a negative post about any religion including Judaism and Islam. I don't consider one religion as having more merit than another. I support everyone's right to follow their religious spiritual path without interference or discrimination.

That pet phrase of yours is soooo overused that I doubt that anything that follows it, is ever taken seriously by anyone who has read your anti Joo posts..:roll:

 

[CDNBear]

For the record... I post information I believe to be accurate regarding war crimes and war criminals.

Your posts are lopsided propaganda, meant to demonize and de-legitimize Israel.

It is oft proven wrong with stronger evidence, to which you respond by dismissing the site it came from, rather than refuting the evidence provided.

Even when material you have posted, supported and defended vehemently, is rendered false by it's own author, you make excuses, and create falsehoods to justify why you will not stop using it to attack Israel.

You tout the UN, yet the UN has found that the blockade is legal, and the attack on the flotilla legal.

And yet you will never see it that way.

Since our MSM seldom reports Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity, I see my posts as a public service which address this shortcoming.

I've proven this statement to be false.

You've offered nothing, ever, to support your claims.

Again, supplying evidence, that your claim is a lame excuse and justification for your continued attacks on Israel, with nothing more than propaganda.

Your facade fools no one.

 

[MapleDog]

Weren't there other occasion when the UN said that what the israeli government/military did was illegal,but were told to STFU?

 

[CDNBear]

Weren't there other occasion when the UN said that what the israeli government/military did was illegal,but were told to STFU?

Look it up and get back to us.

 

[Goober]

For the record. I am agnostic and view all religions similarly. I have never written a negative post about any religion including Judaism and Islam. I don't consider one religion as having more merit than another. I support everyone's right to follow their religious spiritual path without interference or discrimination.

So then you support Hezbollah's imam when he calls for the destruction of Israel. Or the same with Hamas.

 

[earth_as_one]

I have no problem condemning all war criminals and war crimes equally. However since most Canadians are well aware of Palestinian war crimes and oblivious to the nature of oppression and injustice suffered by Palestinians, I feel my posts help fill an important information gap. If our leaders unshakably supported Palestinian war criminals and our MSM didn't report Palestinian war crimes, then I'd fill that gap.

 

[Goober]

I have no problem condemning all war criminals and war crimes equally. However since most Canadians are well aware of Palestinian war crimes and oblivious to the nature of oppression and injustice suffered by Palestinians, I feel my posts help fill an important information gap. If our leaders unshakably supported Palestinian war criminals and our MSM didn't report Palestinian war crimes, then I'd fill that gap.

Oh you have an information gap alright - a great big FFn hole of a gap.

 

[MapleDog]

Your posts are lopsided propaganda, meant to demonize and de-legitimize Israel.

It is oft proven wrong with stronger evidence, to which you respond by dismissing the site it came from, rather than refuting the evidence provided.

Even when material you have posted, supported and defended vehemently, is rendered false by it's own author, you make excuses, and create falsehoods to justify why you will not stop using it to attack Israel.

You tout the UN, yet the UN has found that the blockade is legal, and the attack on the flotilla legal.

UN condemns Israel raid on aid flotilla | openDemocracy

After ten hours of negotiations, the UN Security Council called on Israel to liberate immediately the aid-flotilla’s ships and activists, while stressing the need for impartial investigations into the events of 31 May. The Israeli Defence Force (IDF) is responsible for the killing of at least ten civilians and the injury of dozens on board the Freedom Flotilla during the attack, launched on the aid convoy in international waters 65km off the Gaza shores. The six ships seized by the Israeli army were aiming to deliver 10,000 tons of humanitarian aid to the blockaded population of Gaza.

The United States were the only Security Council permanent member to avoid demanding explicitly the end of the siege of Gaza, although they suggested measures to ease the blockade needed to be taken; the British ambassador, Mark Lyall Grant, affirmed that ‘Israel’s restrictions on access to Gaza must be lifted in line with Security Council Resolution 1860’ and he was supported by France, Russia and China in their calls for an end to the blockade and an independent inquiry into the incident.

On the Israeli side, it has become evident that the storming was decided by a restricted group of senior ministers without consulting the inner cabinet, which is the body designated to approve such military actions. Despite these internal disagreements, the Benyamin Netanyahu government has unanimously advocated the right of the soldiers to self-defence against the assault of the activists. The IDF denounced the wounding of at least seven navy commandos, two seriously. According to Israeli military sources, some individuals onboard the flotilla were armed with knives and batons and they tried to seize the Israeli officers’ weapons. In video footage released by the army, it is possible to see one soldier being thrown from the upper to the lower deck of the boat. The IDF also claimed to have confiscated two live ammunition guns. The Israeli navy aimed to prevent the activists from docking directly in Gaza, and the boarding was reportedly intended to guide the ships towards the Ashdod port, where the cargo would have been inspected. The Israeli prime minister, Netanyahu cancelled his meeting with Obama in Washington to return home on Tuesday, in order to attend the inner cabinet meeting he convened for the same day

Contrary to Israeli justifications, Al-Jazeera’s Jamal el-Shayyal, who was onboard the lead ship Mavi Marmara, accused troops of opening fire after activists had raised a white flag. The survivors have been taken to Ashdod, where the injured are receiving medical treatment and the rest are facing interrogation in Israeli jails. Israeli government spokesman, Mark Regev, defended the detention of the activists, maintaining that the flotilla crew comprised IHH members, Turkish Islamists known for their links with terrorist organizations. Many of the dead are reported by the Israeli media to be Turkish nationals. Replying to these allegations, Murat Mercan, the head of Turkey’s foreign relations committee, stated that Tel-Aviv is manipulating the truth, and that among the passengers there are Israeli civilians, authorities and parliamentarians. Meanwhile, the flotilla raid has sparked mass demonstrations across Europe, the Arab and the Muslim world. The Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, appealed to Arabs and Muslims to manifest worldwide their outrage in front of Israeli embassies.

The White House has maintained a low-profile so far, although releasing an account of a telephone conversation between Obama and Netanyahu, in which the US president manifested his regret at the death of civilians and stressed the urgent need to shed light on the incident. American officials were also disappointed by the timing of the raid, occurring just after the start of US-mediated indirect talks between Israelis and Palestinians. The former US ambassador to Israel, Martin S. Indyk, underlined the unsustainability of the Gaza blockade, which ‘helps to stop Hamas attacks on Israelis, but seriously damages Israel’s international reputation’. Nevertheless, he stressed the need for the US to help Israel to solve the situation. White House foreign policy experts noted how Gaza has been largely ignored in favour of the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank throughout the peace process, regardless of the impossibility of excluding a strip of land home to 1.5 million Palestinians.

The OpenSecurity verdict: Since Hamas took over Gaza in 2007 and Israel imposed the blockade, the Palestinians residing in the strip have had to live with supplies at approximately one quarter of December 2005 levels. Numerous fundamental items, such as pipes and fertilisers, have been refused entry on the basis of their potential use for the assemblage of weapons. Even food distribution has been periodically suspended, due to border closures or fuel shortages, with serious consequences for the living standards of a population largely dependent on the UNRWA supplies. According to Oxfam, the amount of cooking gas permitted to enter Gaza has oscillated between a third and half of the minimum requirements. The World Health Organization (WHO) stressed how Operation Cast Lead (2008-2009) worsened the critical availability of water in Gaza, already limited to half of the international minimum requirements before the conflict. The UN deemed the economic damage inflicted by the blockade ‘irreversible’, having dramatically boosted unemployment rates, and it ascribed the impossibility of reconstructing 12,000 Palestinian homes destroyed in the conflict to ongoing restrictions on cement supplies. This is an unbearable burden for Israel: forcing 1.5 million Palestinians to live in these inhuman conditions is not tolerable behaviour for a country considered by some the only democracy in the Middle East

Regardless of whether UN inquiries into the flotilla massacre deliver justice, this episode should serve as a reminder of the forgotten plight of the Gazans. It would be myopic to believe that US-backed indirect talks between Israel and Fatah will solve a conflict that also shapes the lives of the population under Hamas authority. The negotiations also need to comprise a deal between Hamas and Israel, with the end of Palestinian attacks and the handing over of the captured soldier, Gilad Shalit, in exchange for an end to the blockade and the release of some Hamas prisoners. In light of this goal, a firm US commitment to end the humanitarian crisis in Gaza will be also crucial to its relations with the Muslim World. On Israel's part, the right to self-defence should stop being unconditionally advocated, as this will not rescue the country from the risks of international isolation. Specifically, the flotilla raid opened a diplomatic crisis with Turkey, which is a pivotal ally of Israel in the Muslim world.



On the Palestinian side, the rift between Hamas and Fatah needs to be healed for the sake of the peace process. Apart from the benefits of a unified Palestinian front throughout negotiations, there is evidence of the division affecting the living standards of Gaza: in 2009 the responsibility for funding electric fuel was transferred from the EU to the PA, but by 2010 the amount of fuel supplied to Gaza has unexpectedly declined. The WHO has also blamed the internal Palestinian fraction for thwarting the supply chain of medicines in the strip.

 

[CDNBear]

I have no problem condemning all war criminals and war crimes equally.

Yes you do.

Hence 'context' and your double standards for evidence.

However since most Canadians are well aware of Palestinian war crimes and oblivious to the nature of oppression and injustice suffered by Palestinians...

You've made this claim before.

Given how often you are proven wrong in this subject. It would seem that you are lying.

Furthermore, I've shown that there has been a need to correct NorAm media's bias against Israel.

You have neither provided evidence of the opposite, or contrary, nor have you even acknowledged the evidence I provided (Although I completely understand why. It interferes with your false claims).

I feel my posts help fill an important information gap.

A gap that you have fabricated.

... and our MSM didn't report Palestinian war crimes, then I'd fill that gap.

LOL, is that why you dismiss CAMERA without ever actually refuting their material?



There's another one of your lies I just exposed.

UN condemns Israel raid on aid flotilla | openDemocracy

That's called a kneejerk reaction.

A thorough investigation proved otherwise.

UN report: Gaza blockade legal, Israel doesn't owe Turkey apology for Marmara - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

[MapleDog]

Guess even if we bring proof,that a few assholes in the israeli gov,have enough power to tell the UN to "again" STFU.


And i will say it again,6 millions dead at the hand of the nazis,is no reason to do the same to others.

 

[CDNBear]

Guess even if we bring proof,that a few assholes in the israeli gov,have enough power to tell the UN to "again" STFU.

How is a thorough investigation that has to follow internetional law, as it was written, and not interpreted by the likes of AI, RC, or Jew haters, Israel telling the UN to STFU?

Or is it you don't like how the law works?

And i will say it again,6 millions dead at the hand of the nazis,is no reason to do the same to others.

There's been a total death toll of less than 200,000, Jewish and Muslim combined, in this silly conflict.

Not that your silly comment has anything to do with your questions, or your previous posts.

 

[Goober]

Guess even if we bring proof,that a few assholes in the israeli gov,have enough power to tell the UN to "again" STFU.


And i will say it again,6 millions dead at the hand of the nazis,is no reason to do the same to others.

What proof.

 

[MapleDog]

How is a thorough investigation that has to follow internetional law, as it was written, and not interpreted by the likes of AI, RC, or Jew haters, Israel telling the UN to STFU?

Or is it you don't like how the law works?

There's been a total death toll of less than 200,000, Jewish and Muslim combined, in this silly conflict.

Not that your silly comment has anything to do with your questions, or your previous posts.

If the flotilla brought food and medicine,why intercept them,it looks a lot like how it was in east germany when the commies built the wall,and controled how much their former enemies would get.