Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[CDNBear]

It would if it was covered in our news. We only see the secular Israel on the toob or in the papers. We are being played by our own govt and media who obviously have an agenda beyond what we are told.

I agree, which is why I don't use MSM or the Gov't as a source of information really.

Hence why I was aware of the ignorance within the Orthodox community. I was only not aware that they practiced gender segregation without extreme challenge by the State.

 

[petros]

The injustices against Ortho women goes far beyond the borders of Israel, The same happens here and in Europe but we hear nothing. Why?

 

[CDNBear]

The injustices against Ortho women goes far beyond the borders of Israel, The same happens here and in Europe but we hear nothing. Why?

I think because it isn't visible. The burqa is.

Not to mention, if you see an Orthodox Jew, is the average Canadian going to walk up and attempt to make contact?

I think not. Whereas I'm different.

 

[petros]

I think because it isn't visible. The burqa is.

When was the last time you've seen a Ortho woman out of the house on her own wearing her head garb? At least the Muslim women are allowed out of the house.

 

[CDNBear]

When was the last time you've seen a Ortho woman out of the house on her own wearing her head garb? At least the Muslim women are allowed out of the house.

Yesterday, as we drove through Jacksons point, as we drove through Sutton, as I parked the car at the GT boutique. We see them all summer long.

The little boys with their curly locks are so damned cute, even if they do look like right little Aryan boys, lol.

 

[petros]

Yesterday, as we drove through Jacksons point, as we drove through Sutton, as I parked the car at the GT boutique. We see them all summer long.

The little boys with their curly locks are so damned cute, even if they do look like right little Aryan boys, lol.

And everyday those women thank their lucky stars they live in Canada. Maybe someday the women will ditch their head gear and the boys won't look like their sisters but that's not going to happen in J'lem.

 

[CDNBear]

And everyday those women thank their lucky stars they live in Canada. Maybe someday the women will ditch their head gear and the boys won't look like their sisters but that's not going to happen in J'lem.

I agree, I support that 100%.

Which is why I support banning the burqa as well.

I do not subscribe to any religiously supported segregation, for any reason.

 

[petros]

I don't support a burqa ban. I support the rights of the women to choose. In France they lose the right of choice. That is one step forward resulting in two steps back.

 

[CDNBear]

I don't support a burqa ban. I support the rights of the women to choose. In France they lose the right of choice. That is one step forward resulting in two steps back.

Sometimes a great injustice has to be perpetrated to stop a greater injustice.

 

[CDNBear]

Oops

 

[CDNBear]

BBC News - Israel to co-operate with UN probe into Gaza flotilla

 

[ironsides]

This is why Israel has every right to search those so called aid ships.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a stern warning Sunday to Gaza's Hamas rulers after a weekend of rocket attacks from the Palestinian territory on Israeli communities.
Netanyahu told his cabinet that Israel holds the Islamic militant group responsible for the rare flare-up in violence and would retaliate for any attack against its people.


Read more: CBC News - World - Israeli PM warns Hamas over rocket attacks
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[captain morgan]

In France they lose the right of choice. That is one step forward resulting in two steps back.

Rights are a 2-way street Petros. I believe that it is fair to say that the French government is legislating the cultural expectations that they (as a nation/culture) have developed over centuries.

 

[Colpy]

Here ya go!

Lorne Gunter: A different view of Gaza ? not so poor after all | Full Comment | National Post

 

[CDNBear]

Here ya go!

Lorne Gunter: A different view of Gaza ? not so poor after all | Full Comment | National Post

 

[earth_as_one]

An update:
Gaza boat goes postal! | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

Gaza boat goes postal!

Postal Union backs Gaza boat, promises mail delivery


August 19, 2010 4:28pm


OTTAWA - Canada Post won’t deliver mail to the Gaza Strip any longer but the union representing the posties says they will.
The Canadian Union of Postal Workers says mail bound for Gaza will be delivered by their members aboard the Canadian boat for Gaza.
CUPW is one of many Canadian groups that have endorsed or are supporting an attempt to have a Canadian boat run the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
“It’s part of our campaign of boycott, divestment and sanction against the Israeli State to respect international law,” said CUPW president Denis Lemelin.
CUPW passed resolutions supporting the campaign, including one designating Israel an “apartheid state” in 2008.
“Cutting mail is adding more pressure to people,” said Lemelin, adding he’s backing the Gaza boat in the hope that it will break the blockade....


...Other supporters of the Gaza boat include groups such as Independent Jewish Voices, Mohawk Traditional Council, Educators for Peace and Justice, a group of Toronto-area school teachers.

 

[CDNBear]

For a better perspective...

YouTube - The Humanitarian Crisis of the Gaza Mall

Which will be ignored just like Colpy's article was, by eao, MHz and all the other usual suspects.

 

[ironsides]

What they won’t tell you about are the fancy new restaurants and swimming pools of Gaza, or about the windsurfing competitions on Gaza beaches, or the Strip’s crowded shops and markets. Many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza live a middle-class (and in some cases an upper-class) lifestyle that Western journalists refuse to report on because it doesn’t fit with the simplistic story they were sent to write.


Fancy Restaurants and Olympic-Size Swim Pools: What The Media Won’t Report About Gaza

 

[CDNBear]

Oddly enough, none of the usual suspects have been back to this thread since those vids were posted.

 

[earth_as_one]

What they won’t tell you about are the fancy new restaurants and swimming pools of Gaza, or about the windsurfing competitions on Gaza beaches, or the Strip’s crowded shops and markets. Many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza live a middle-class (and in some cases an upper-class) lifestyle that Western journalists refuse to report on because it doesn’t fit with the simplistic story they were sent to write.


Fancy Restaurants and Olympic-Size Swim Pools: What The Media Won’t Report About Gaza

Its called selective truth propaganda. I have no doubt that a few wealthy Gazans exist, but that hardly means that Gaza isn't desperately poor or that Israel's illegal blockade isn't causing hardship.

UN HUMANITARIAN COORDINATOR:
GAZA BLOCKADE SUFFOCATING AGRICULTURE SECTOR,
CREATING FOOD INSECURITY
25 MAY 2010

...Since the imposition of Israel’s blockade on the Gaza Strip in June 2007, the formal economy in Gaza has
collapsed. Over sixty (60) percent of households are now food insecure, threatening the health and wellbeing
of children, women and men. In this context, agriculture offers some practical solutions to a
humanitarian problem. However, Israel’s import and access restrictions continue to suffocate the
agriculture sector and directly contribute to rising food insecurity. Of particular concern, farmers and
fishers’ lives are regularly put at risk, due to Israel’s enforcement of its access restrictions.

http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/gaza_agriculture_25_05_2010_press_release_english.pdf

If 60% are food insecure, that means the remainder (40%) have enough food. some of these people probably eat in nice restaurants and have pools. Meanwhile the other 60%:

UNHCR | Refworld | OPT: Signs of worsening malnutrition among children

OPT: Signs of worsening malnutrition among children

GAZA CITY, 21 April 2009 (IRIN) - Rising poverty, unemployment and food insecurity in Gaza, compounded by the recent 23-day Israeli offensive, have increased the threat of child malnutrition, say UN agencies, health ministry officials and healthcare NGOs in Gaza.

UN World Health Organization (WHO) officials are concerned by the warning signs, including rising malnutrition indicators - like increased cases of stunting, wasting and underweight children - and continuing high rates of anaemia among children and pregnant women.

A Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)/World Food Programme (WFP) qualitative food security assessment for Gaza in 2008 and early 2009 points to increasing food insecurity compared to 2007, said FAO food security adviser Erminio Saco based in Jerusalem; and according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) food acquisition and energy consumption in Gaza declined by 10 percent between 2005 and 2007.

Over the past 18 months the agricultural sector has been struggling to cope with an Israeli blockade on imports and exports, causing lower productivity and reducing access to affordable fresh food, according to FAO.

Stunting

The UN Children's Fund (UNICEF) said in January that 10.3 percent of children under five are stunted (low height for age), a steadily increasing trend over recent years...

UNHCR | Refworld | OPT: Signs of worsening malnutrition among children

I disagree with deliberately causing people to be hungry and unhealthy. I think its cruel to deliberately cause tens of thousands of children suffer malnutrition and stunted growth. I doubt Israelis could get away with treating animals as poorly as they treat the people living in Gaza.