So what? Who is Israel to deny the Palestinians chocolate? Or anything else that isn't considered to be a detriment to their security.
Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet
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So what? Who is Israel to deny the Palestinians chocolate? Or anything else that isn't considered to be a detriment to their security.
Nowhere in the laws is "total war" found. Again, more absurdity.
Sad, you were on a roll and I was actually enjoying the consistency and intellect of your posts today. Even though I diagreed with the context.
You have a choice ahead of you Bear and I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.
Perhaps in your effort to be an idiot, you willfully missed this part, so I'll quote it for you and highlight it, so you have a better chance at grasping what was really said...
So because law does not include the term "total war" then war with no holds barred and no quarter does not exist? Give your empty head a shake man.
And what pray tell is this choice?
Your imagined opinion that to defend the legality of anything, you must 100% sell out all other opinions, principles or values?
Or I will have to tow the Israeli line or be forever cast out of your imaginary Israeli fan club?
You know DB, people can have opposing views of their own eh. The duality of man is long known anomaly. You know, like think acts of true ignorance and criminality should be tried, but demanding a fair and objective investigation be conducted. You know, real justice.
It is actually.
It's an eye roller to be sure. It certainly isn't something I would deny, but it certainly isn't something worthy of launching into a tirade over. Nor is it something one should try and get an international body such as the ICC to investigate. It's purely hyperbole and spin. An attempt to tweak at the heart strings.
Of course not DB, perhaps you can show me where I said any of that. So we'll both be up to speed on your imagination.
As I have said and adhered to all along, the rule of law. As it is written, should be adhered to. Any breach should be dealt with, quickly and severely.
I actually support opening the Gazan borders up, fully, unhindered and unrestricted. At that point, any and all action can be viewed without the excuse of armed resistance. As Israel has already ceded control of the territory. There should be no need for violent act against Israel at that point, correct?
Ah, when all reason is lost, resort to insult. Awesome DB. Your predictability is legendary.
My mistake, you've obviously already made a choice of masters not in the interests of your fellow citizens, I think.
And you don't even feel stupid pointing that out Mr Kettle.:lol:
Sure it is worthy of heavy criticism. Because if they deny something as harmless as chocolate to the Palestinians (which by the way, they have absolutely no right to do) then who knows what other harmless things they're denying the Palestinians.
Then you think wrong.
You see, this is the problem with adhering to an ideology and simply living by it, in the face of all reason. You are subject to irrational singularities. There is no room for law and justice to exist inside the myopic view you have created. Without your feelings being totally observed without any question. You and the Israeli hardliners share that defect.
Hence the difference in our opinion. I actually want peace and justice. You simply want vindication.
There is a monumental difference.
No actually I don't. But I'm sure you think I should, no doubt because I succumb to insult when the person I am conversing with, is so vacant of of reason. There is really no point in continuing in a civil manner.
Where as I am now and have been trying to have a civil discussion with you since you showed up today, even giving you positive rep, for post I found to be quite well thought out and poignant, despite being contrary to my own opinion.
There again, is a major difference between you and I.
Hmmm, seems to be a fair enough assessment. I'll concede to that.
Using your own train of thought and logic. It is now fair to condemn, fully, unequivocally, Hamas. As an armed group of terrorists, thieves and criminals. For their actions in raiding NGO's. As was reported by the UN. This of course shall be added to a long list of criminal acts committed by Hamas. Thus validating the listing as a terrorist group and Israel's position on Hamas.
Thank you for your assistance.
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Testimony by yet another witness aboard the Mavi Marmara. This time a former US marine, that Israel claims was going to Gaza to train terrorists.
YouTube - Gaza activist denies 'terrorist' tag
YouTube - Gaza activist denies 'terrorist' tag
This time it's from a former Marine?
This is the same guy from the other video posted in this thread, here...
Thus proving you don't actually vet what you post, or reply to, so long as you think it supports your ideology. Furthermore, what makes his "testimony" anymore credible then that of other activists from this article, that you posted...
In which activists described militant activists getting ready fto attack the boarding party. Having brought with them equipment to use in the process thereof.
Why is it you embrace anything that supports your ideology, but anything contrary is all lies?
This would explain why there are hardly ever any people at the beaches in the PR photo's of Gaza that is used to show they are not in a Nazi concentration camp.
Too many gray sharks circling the beaches, invisible gray sharks according to the photo's I've been shown lately.
"In another escalation of the tension off Gaza's shores, Israeli naval forces shot and killed four men wearing wet suits off the coast on Monday, and the militant group Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades said they were members of its marine unit training for a mission."
Egypt: Gaza blockade a failure, border stays open - Yahoo! News
I would suggest an upgrade using equipment not designed by the US or South Korea, perhaps by the ones who run the subs in North Korea should be given the no-bid contract. Track every thing bigger than a minnow and the new sharks could be remoted from a cubicle at work. Sharks about the size of the rockets the have been launched into Israel, now Hamas can send they rockets after the 'illegal fish' in the 20 miles. Might I suggest some marker buoys here instead of going blind as was (and still is most likely) 'ill defined' at best when it comes to being a border between Iran and Iran.
Too many gray sharks circling the beaches, invisible gray sharks according to the photo's I've been shown lately.
"In another escalation of the tension off Gaza's shores, Israeli naval forces shot and killed four men wearing wet suits off the coast on Monday, and the militant group Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades said they were members of its marine unit training for a mission."
Egypt: Gaza blockade a failure, border stays open - Yahoo! News
I would suggest an upgrade using equipment not designed by the US or South Korea, perhaps by the ones who run the subs in North Korea should be given the no-bid contract. Track every thing bigger than a minnow and the new sharks could be remoted from a cubicle at work. Sharks about the size of the rockets the have been launched into Israel, now Hamas can send they rockets after the 'illegal fish' in the 20 miles. Might I suggest some marker buoys here instead of going blind as was (and still is most likely) 'ill defined' at best when it comes to being a border between Iran and Iran.
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And is there any doubt that Israeli peace and justice would be exactly what we have now, war and injustice fueled by Israeli ideological and religious superiority? Read 1984 when you get some time or again if you already have.
You are singularly unsuitable as an arbitor of reason. Please do not tax our humour further.
You gave me a virtual gift, how vacant, and you expect what in return I wonder, no don't tell me I would perfere to speculate. I would rather have chocolate with the Palestinians in any case.
They are the democratically elected, officially accepted legal government of the Gazan people. They have every legal right to resist beligerent odious occupation.
at least four characters?
And is there any doubt that Israeli peace and justice would be exactly what we have now, war and injustice fueled by Israeli ideological and religious superiority? Read 1984 when you get some time or again if you already have.
You are singularly unsuitable as an arbitor of reason. Please do not tax our humour further.
You gave me a virtual gift, how vacant, and you expect what in return I wonder, no don't tell me I would perfere to speculate. I would rather have chocolate with the Palestinians in any case.
They are the democratically elected, officially accepted legal government of the Gazan people. They have every legal right to resist beligerent odious occupation.
at least four characters?
Looks like someone aboard the Mavi Marmara successfully smuggled their pictures of the Israeli commando raid and its starting to tell another part of the story, that Israel has successfully suppressed until now.
Pictures of Activists aboard the Mavi Marmara protecting and giving aid to disarmed Israeli commandos:
Did Mavi Marmara passengers aid injured Israelis? - News
Pictures of Activists aboard the Mavi Marmara protecting and giving aid to disarmed Israeli commandos:
Did Mavi Marmara passengers aid injured Israelis? - News
LOL, actually Al Jazeera had live feeds coming off the ships. But you can post your lies and spin until the cows come home, reality will just continue to bite you in the ass.
That's just gotta suck...
These are actually a couple days old.
Not even the Israeli's have disputed this.
Looks to me like these Israeli commandos were being protected and recieving medical aid, by activists, while the Israeli commandos were busy gunning down their friends on the upper decks. Eye witness accounts on the upper decks describe the Israelis randomly shooting into the crowd.
And all that blood under a white flag. Never wave a white flag at Israelis. And we will all dread the next logical step with respect to Israelis , I hope.
There really isn't much of anything, with any real substance in that post. Let alone anything worth refuting.
With paint ball guns, until the Israeli's were forced to use deadly force. Again, reality is biting you in the ass.
White flags mean nothing when you attack lawful boarding parties.
Anyways, the Catfish are calling, have fun, do try and play nice. And above all, try and use some reason and logic when you post. Then I won't have to embarrass you, yet again, when I come back, lol.