Israel and Genocide: Reality Check

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Read the dime novels of the old west . They are all about the evil big landowner and his henchmen ruling the town , county , range with
an iron fist . A soon as one man stands up to the boss the other cowed good men find their courage and fight back . Eventually this will happen in Palestine they have the internet and know they are living in hell .
Said stranger rides in and not long later the owner of the best and biggest ranch is dead and so is his foreman and the stranger and the owner's daughter sit on the porch watching the sun go down.
 

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The UN is criticizing Israel, why not send UN troops into Gaza to keep the peace..

They can disarm the terrorist group Hamas and ensure no more rockets are fired from Israel.

Just Say'in.
How about Russian in that the UN has no standing army and I'm thinking 20 years under Military Law under them would see things progress ar a faster pace than it did in 1967-1987 which is before Hamas existed. If there had been some progress (other than bribing off Arafat) in those 20 years Hamas would not have been elected by the people on the platform that they never surrender. It's little 'facts' like this that get in the way of progress, back then or even between them at the moment. Charity doesn't serve just one group all the time, it arrives and leaves according to reality. It isn't like I can fix it
 

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And even if they are committing genocide? It's only wrong if we decide it's wrong. That's our PM's job. Let our PM do his freaken job for God sake. We even pay him to decide on **** like that.
 

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And even if they are committing genocide? It's only wrong if we decide it's wrong. That's our PM's job. Let our PM do his freaken job for God sake. We even pay him to decide on **** like that.

Yeah Harper supports Isreal, a democratic country



Justin Trudeau, supports Hamas, despite Canada has considered them a terrorist organization.



...oh yeah and he wants Sharia Law in Canada.



So vote with your conscious. Just vote Conservative ;)
 

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JT wants to find a better way.
Harper just doesn't give a ****.

JT represents Canadians way of thinking far better then Harper.

When he is PM. I'll accept his decision the way I accept Harpers today.
 

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Yeah Harper supports Isreal, a democratic country



Justin Trudeau, supports Hamas, despite Canada has considered them a terrorist organization.



...oh yeah and he wants Sharia Law in Canada.



So vote with your conscious. Just vote Conservative ;)

The reality is thus boomer.

we live in a world with many peoples and religious beliefs.

Pandering to one and not the other for a head of state in a multi cultural society is just wrong.

The Liberals would never have induced the wrath of an entire culture due to pandering for Jewish votes.

they awlays were able to take the high road and not offend either and support both.

Look at the fighting in the streets of Toronto between Palestinians and Jews.

this is not Canadian and is due to a lack of finesse of the government in power.

Sitting back and saying nothing about something that never happened before in Canada is inept.

We are supposed to leave the fighting behind.

Harperism loves the divide and conquer .

It's dangerous and un Canadian.
Liberals are just a hell of lot more classy.


and by the way your take on it is completely skewed by your agenda.
 

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JT is trying to reach out and find something in common with different cultures. Our whole society here in Canada is based on that.

Failing to do so will have catastrophic concequences. Violence from hatred. Right here in our country.
 

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JT is trying to reach out and find something in common with different cultures. Our whole society here is based on that.
Liberals have always found common ground and never resorted to Machiavellian campaign tactics.
It's harder and takes a lot more genius to pull it off, but they always came through.

Going pro Israeli for the sake of votes and missing the one fact that Palestinians deserve a decent chance at living too.

You push a guy into a corner, hold a knife to his throat and tell him to go away , he moves and his throat gets cut...

A friggin road to the world is all they want.
everyone pities the Israelis but the Palestinians can go to hell .

this present move by Israel has been lost on me...

I've always been pro Israel and still am...but this...this is ruthless back a people into a corner and murder them .

Liberals would have a better face on the situation and Canada.

Harperism is just to bereft of genius to do anything but the lowest common denominator.
 

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The reality is thus boomer.

we live in a world with many peoples and religious beliefs.

Pandering to one and not the other for a head of state in a multi cultural society is just wrong.

The Liberals would never have induced the wrath of an entire culture due to pandering for Jewish votes.

they awlays were able to take the high road and not offend either and support both.

Look at the fighting in the streets of Toronto between Palestinians and Jews.

this is not Canadian and is due to a lack of finesse of the government in power.

Sitting back and saying nothing about something that never happened before in Canada is inept.

We are supposed to leave the fighting behind.

Harperism loves the divide and conquer .

It's dangerous and un Canadian.
Liberals are just a hell of lot more classy.


and by the way your take on it is completely skewed by your agenda.

ISIS is Islam at its purest.

Crucifixions in the town square.

Rape of women captives, forced marriage of little girls.

Genocide of all other religions. Complete utter annihilation.....except for "People of the Book"

People of the Book killed, or maybe just heavily oppressed and taxed, at the whim of their Muslim overseers.

Other Muslim sects murdered to the last person, even children beheaded.

Ever expanding, aggressive war to spread the word of Islam the way Mohammed, the shinning example, genocidal warrior, murderer, brigand, rapist, and pedophile, Islam spread by the sword, exactly as he spread it.

Sharia law.

MULTICULTURALISM IS INSANITY.

Oh, and Justin kissing up to Wahhabis is just so so stupid.......the guy is an idiot.
 

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ISIS is Islam at its purest.

Crucifixions in the town square.

Rape of women captives, forced marriage of little girls.

Genocide of all other religions. Complete utter annihilation.....except for "People of the Book"

People of the Book killed, or maybe just heavily oppressed and taxed, at the whim of their Muslim overseers.

Other Muslim sects murdered to the last person, even children beheaded.

Ever expanding, aggressive war to spread the word of Islam the way Mohammed, the shinning example, genocidal warrior, murderer, brigand, rapist, and pedophile, Islam spread by the sword, exactly as he spread it.

Sharia law.

MULTICULTURALISM IS INSANITY.

ISIS is Islam at its extreme... like bombing abortion centers is Christianity at its most extreme.

... like racism and violence against Arabs in Israel is Judaism at its most extreme..
 

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Liberals have always found common ground and never resorted to Machiavellian campaign tactics.
It's harder and takes a lot more genius to pull it off, but they always came through.

Going pro Israeli for the sake of votes and missing the one fact that Palestinians deserve a decent chance at living too.

You push a guy into a corner, hold a knife to his throat and tell him to go away , he moves and his throat gets cut...

A friggin road to the world is all they want.
everyone pities the Israelis but the Palestinians can go to hell .

this present move by Israel has been lost on me...

I've always been pro Israel and still am...but this...this is ruthless back a people into a corner and murder them .

Liberals would have a better face on the situation and Canada.

Harperism is just to bereft of genius to do anything but the lowest common denominator.

First of all, 1.0% of Canada is Jewish, 3.2% is Muslim. Exactly whose votes is Harper trying to get by supporting Israel?? It is a matter of PRINCIPLE. I know, you are a Liberal, look it up in an on-line dictionary.

Secondly, Gaza had open borders....before Hamas, sworn to murder all Jews, took over. How stupid would Israel have to be to open their borders to an entity sworn to murder them all?????

ISIS is Islam at its extreme... like bombing abortion centers is Christianity at its most extreme.

... like racism and violence against Arabs in Israel is Judaism at its most extreme..

There is no such thing as moderate or extreme Islam.....there is only Islam.

There are Muslims that follow Islam, and those that do not.....but ISIS and the way of jihad is Islam.
 

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so you believe the only true muslims are extremist wahhabists, any other muslim who is non-violent (the majority) aren't actually muslims at all... yea that's not a stupid way of thinking at all.




Well this is damning to Israel, but not surprising.. basically what i've been saying all along, now confirmed by former IDF...

Idan Barir Former Crew Commander, Israeli Artillery Corps


Why It's Hard to Believe Israel's Claim That It Did Its Best to Minimize Civilian Deaths

....."I served as a crew commander in the Israeli artillery corps at the beginning of the Second Intifada, and I feel compelled to counter this claim from Israel. The images, evidence and army reports from recent operations in Gaza -- of more than 1,900 deaths (a number which will likely increase by the time you read this) and a large amount of the population left without shelter -- show that Israel has deployed massive artillery firepower. Such firepower is impossible to target precisely."

Artillery fire is a statistical means of warfare. It is the complete opposite of sniper fire. While the power of sharpshooting lies in its accuracy, the power of artillery comes from the quantity of shells fired and the massive impact of each one.
In using artillery against Gaza, Israel therefore cannot sincerely argue that it is doing everything in its power to spare the innocent.


Why It's Hard to Believe Israel's Claim That It Did Its Best to Minimize Civilian DeathsÂ*|Â*Idan Barir
 

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JT is trying to reach out and find something in common with different cultures. Our whole society here in Canada is based on that.

Failing to do so will have catastrophic concequences. Violence from hatred. Right here in our country.
You just ruin everything when you bring in all that reason and common sense.

Supporting Canada in a time of war is quite different that supporting a party that is out to sell the taxpayers down the road, It would be no different of they wouldn't even get the leadership to begin with. He represents big business rather than John Q Public and the video makes it pretty clear who will be giving a list of suggestions to the Govt of Canada to follow.
I'm also not going to support a rule by 1% when 3% of the population are quite capable of doing it themselves. PM Martin made it clear in the vid, 'Canada, our sold out native land.' that in the 1970 we gave up printing our own money because paying the $30B in interest (equal to all income tax collected) is 1/3 the price if we didn't go along in the form of sanctions and terrorist acts.
I'm pretty sure a referendum on some of these issues would get a true look at how the voters feel about an issue rather than being told by somebody with power how we feel about something. If war is the oldest trade that behavior is the 2nd oldest.
 
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What happened to al Qaeda the evilest of evil?

How do you get kicked out of and disowned by al Qaeda for being too violent?

Why isn't ISIS attacking Israel or helping to arm and fund Hamas?

Who knew bullsh-t propaganda could be piled this high? I guess there are just too many weak minded.
 

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What do we owe Israel that we don't owe to everyone else?
I would think we owe Gaza more than we have been giving simply because our signature is on UN 181.
A lot of Nations would help Gaza so why is Israel preventing peace from existing. There aren't many options that doesn't include this being some portion of a larger operation, headed by the same banks that demanded Britain help create the Israel we have today. That 'being created in a day' actually took almost 70 years, same as this last phase that sees them gain control over the Nations. It just seems to be the same moves thugs use in the rest of the world.
 

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so you believe the only true muslims are extremist wahhabists, any other muslim who is non-violent (the majority) aren't actually muslims at all... yea that's not a stupid way of thinking at all.




Well this is damning to Israel, but not surprising.. basically what i've been saying all along, now confirmed by former IDF...

Idan Barir Former Crew Commander, Israeli Artillery Corps


Why It's Hard to Believe Israel's Claim That It Did Its Best to Minimize Civilian Deaths

....."I served as a crew commander in the Israeli artillery corps at the beginning of the Second Intifada, and I feel compelled to counter this claim from Israel. The images, evidence and army reports from recent operations in Gaza -- of more than 1,900 deaths (a number which will likely increase by the time you read this) and a large amount of the population left without shelter -- show that Israel has deployed massive artillery firepower. Such firepower is impossible to target precisely."

Artillery fire is a statistical means of warfare. It is the complete opposite of sniper fire. While the power of sharpshooting lies in its accuracy, the power of artillery comes from the quantity of shells fired and the massive impact of each one.
In using artillery against Gaza, Israel therefore cannot sincerely argue that it is doing everything in its power to spare the innocent.


Why It's Hard to Believe Israel's Claim That It Did Its Best to Minimize Civilian DeathsÂ*|Â*Idan Barir


This guy has never heard of counter-battery fire??

Right..................