Is there proof of life after death
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To every material object there is its identical ethereal image which is its spirit; the soul is the spirit of man; the soul is the true man: it is the soul that hears, sees and perceives the pleasure and plain, while the body – after the soul departs from it – will be like a board of wood: does not hear, does not see and do not perceives anything.
The afterlife is not totally or completely known to us; but when we go there following our death, we shall truly know that world. But now we only know about it in general, not exactly.
Such things may be used in other ways, or God only knows about.
There had been seven worlds destroyed before this our solar system, and their ethereal images have been preserved as the ethereal layers or the ethereal heavens or the Paradises. This image resulting from the destruction of our present solar system will cause the issue of the eighth ethereal layer on the next Doomsday.
http://universeandquran.site.io/#The_Ethereal_Heavens
http://universeandquran.site.io/#The_Ethereal_Heavens
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Perhaps, but not nearly as stupid as the amoeba that takes some silly book's word for everything as the truth, however irrational it may be.
I shall prove this to you: we see the little insect: the ant; it prepares its food in summer for winter when she cannot move because of the extreme coldness.
So this little insect with its instincts is better than the foolishness of the disbeliever, who is like the neglecting student that will not study hard, then the examination will come and he cannot pass.
Why not man should prepare everything for his everlasting future, in stead of the denial, then when he will discover he was wrong, it would be too late!?
[/quote]When the believer dies he dies. He has wasted his entire life preparing for something that never happens. This is inane, IMO.Anyway, I am still waiting for proof.
Nope. That is sarcasm I directed at EA for the idiotic comment about everything and everyone having a spiritual doppelganger.
I will see if I can find EA's joke for you.
lol
Eannassir's joke is post #4 on page 14 of the Mars is inhabited thread in the Science and Tech forum
Eannassir's joke is post #4 on page 14 of the Mars is inhabited thread in the Science and Tech forum
Found the post, that's all I have to say.;-)
He's got to try harder that that, maybe some 'knock knock jokes to start?
The atheist is practically stupid
The point is that both the believer and the disbeliever do live in this World for certain years which are the decreed life-span for every individual.
Each one of them live in this World, and has a large number and uncountable favors and bounties of God Most Gracious. Examples of these blessings and bounties are: the eyesight, the hearing, the perception, the safety from many hazards, the wealth, the property, the joy and happiness, the friends, the family: wife, sons and daughters, parents and other kindred, the day and night succession, the dress, the providing for him of every kind of food and fruit …etc.
That is because God Most Gracious is bountiful to all people during this World.
Therefore each one of the believer and the non-believer will have much of such bounties of God, and will live his life enjoying such favors.
And all of them will die, and go to that next life, which the atheist stubbornly denies, then who will loose?
The pedant atheist denies the afterlife; then when such afterlife will be a reality there, what will the fate of such foolish be?
While the believer will live the same situation, and may be better, and will go there following his death, to find all happiness and success.
So this is how the stupidity of the atheist will be fulfilled, and this is how the outcome of the believer will be.
This is in the Quran 39: 54-59
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ . وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ . أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ . ...الخThe point is that both the believer and the disbeliever do live in this World for certain years which are the decreed life-span for every individual.
Each one of them live in this World, and has a large number and uncountable favors and bounties of God Most Gracious. Examples of these blessings and bounties are: the eyesight, the hearing, the perception, the safety from many hazards, the wealth, the property, the joy and happiness, the friends, the family: wife, sons and daughters, parents and other kindred, the day and night succession, the dress, the providing for him of every kind of food and fruit …etc.
That is because God Most Gracious is bountiful to all people during this World.
Therefore each one of the believer and the non-believer will have much of such bounties of God, and will live his life enjoying such favors.
And all of them will die, and go to that next life, which the atheist stubbornly denies, then who will loose?
The pedant atheist denies the afterlife; then when such afterlife will be a reality there, what will the fate of such foolish be?
While the believer will live the same situation, and may be better, and will go there following his death, to find all happiness and success.
So this is how the stupidity of the atheist will be fulfilled, and this is how the outcome of the believer will be.
This is in the Quran 39: 54-59
The explanation:
(Turn [repentant] to your Lord, and surrender to Him, before there come to you the doom [as did it come to the past nations who denied their messengers], when you cannot be helped.
And follow [the Quran which is] the best of the [heavenly scriptures] revealed to you from your Lord, before there come on you the torment suddenly [when you die] while you are unaware [of the approach of your death appointment.]
Lest any soul should say [after death]: "Alas for me [I feel sorry] for that I neglected to seek [the prosperity in Paradise under the Throne in] the neighborhood of God; I would also that I was not one of those who mocked [the prophet.]"
Or should say: "If God had but guided me [by sending a messenger to acquaint me], I should [then] have been one of those who ward off [God's disobedience.]"
Or say – on accounting the doom [after being transmitted from the material world to the world of souls] – "If only I had a return [to the World], I should certainly be one of those who are kind."
Yes indeed! My revelations came to you [O unbeliever], but you denied them and were arrogantly haughty [towards the messenger] and were one of the unbelievers.)
eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io
Here is a tale of a disputant and a believer.
The disputant was an atheist; he wrangled:
About the existence of God – be glorified – how can we believe in Him while we cannot see or touch Him;
And about the Devil being originally created from fire, how he can be punished in the Fire;
And about the decree: if it is decreed that a man will be a disbeliever, then it is not justice to punish him for something decreed for him.
About the existence of God – be glorified – how can we believe in Him while we cannot see or touch Him;
And about the Devil being originally created from fire, how he can be punished in the Fire;
And about the decree: if it is decreed that a man will be a disbeliever, then it is not justice to punish him for something decreed for him.
So as much as the believer gave him explanation, he went on saying to him repeatedly: "Prove it." Then the believer gave him another explanation, and the disputant said: "Prove it."
So the believer hit the disputant with a stone on his head.
The atheist went to the judge and complained against the believer, who said to him before the judge:
"1- "Where is the pain, and how can you say there is such a pain, and we don't see it?"
The atheist said: "Even though we cannot see it, but it is there."
The believer answered: "Then know that God exists in spite of that He cannot be seen or touched."
2- Then the believer said: "You are created from earth
the elements of earth are in your body), then how can the stone (which is made of earth) hurt you? And similarly, the Devil was created from gases that emerged from fire, and yet he will be punished by the Fire.
3- Moreover, why have you come to complain against me when my act is decreed, and it will not be justice to punish me according to something decreed?
Therefore, these are the answers for your three questions, I have answered you with this stone."
The atheist said: "Even though we cannot see it, but it is there."
The believer answered: "Then know that God exists in spite of that He cannot be seen or touched."
2- Then the believer said: "You are created from earth
the elements of earth are in your body), then how can the stone (which is made of earth) hurt you? And similarly, the Devil was created from gases that emerged from fire, and yet he will be punished by the Fire.3- Moreover, why have you come to complain against me when my act is decreed, and it will not be justice to punish me according to something decreed?
Therefore, these are the answers for your three questions, I have answered you with this stone."
I guess it's a pleasant thought for' many' to believe they will go somewhere else, other
than 6 ft. under, or, whatever, but reality is reality, can't run from it.
than 6 ft. under, or, whatever, but reality is reality, can't run from it.
Hello,
The fine lady from the Island. Have my plot on side of Mount Royal.
No flowers though.
Neglect my negativity --- just in a mood right now.
Take Care.
scratch
Something about the soul:
The soul is ethereal not material form that is identical with its body. It is like the driver and the body like the car. The driver directs the car wherever and however he likes, and he is responsible about his car, the car is not responsible because it is only a mass of iron, plastics, cloth, glass …etc. that do not understand or realize.
The soul cannot move any material object, neither can it carry anything eventhough it is a bird's feather.
http://man-after-death.site.io/#Features_of_the_Soul_
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Soul_after_Death_
I don't think that the soul can be weighed; but may be photographed in certain circumstances, and may appear in certain circumstances like something related to the contrast, dimness and refraction of light through the glass or in some foggy weather at certain cold temperature; I say this is sometimes, not always; as has been seen in many observations.
Moreover, we have to distinguish between souls of the dead men and between the demons or genies who have their invisible gaseous bodies, and can show us themselves while they are alive. When these demons or genies die they will become like the human souls and cannot show us their souls when they die.
About the body after death:
It will undergo some decaying and disintegration, and many chemical reactions and physical processes will take place concerning the dead body from which the soul has departed following its death.
There will be dehydration and evaporation, so at the start it is expected that the body will lose some weight at the start.
The dead body will be flaccid to start with, but later on stiffness will be there.
If you carry the body of a dead man, just few hours following his death, you will realize how heavy it has become.
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Body_after_Death_
The soul is ethereal not material form that is identical with its body. It is like the driver and the body like the car. The driver directs the car wherever and however he likes, and he is responsible about his car, the car is not responsible because it is only a mass of iron, plastics, cloth, glass …etc. that do not understand or realize.
The soul cannot move any material object, neither can it carry anything eventhough it is a bird's feather.
http://man-after-death.site.io/#Features_of_the_Soul_
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Soul_after_Death_
I don't think that the soul can be weighed; but may be photographed in certain circumstances, and may appear in certain circumstances like something related to the contrast, dimness and refraction of light through the glass or in some foggy weather at certain cold temperature; I say this is sometimes, not always; as has been seen in many observations.
Moreover, we have to distinguish between souls of the dead men and between the demons or genies who have their invisible gaseous bodies, and can show us themselves while they are alive. When these demons or genies die they will become like the human souls and cannot show us their souls when they die.
About the body after death:
It will undergo some decaying and disintegration, and many chemical reactions and physical processes will take place concerning the dead body from which the soul has departed following its death.
There will be dehydration and evaporation, so at the start it is expected that the body will lose some weight at the start.
The dead body will be flaccid to start with, but later on stiffness will be there.
If you carry the body of a dead man, just few hours following his death, you will realize how heavy it has become.
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Body_after_Death_
The soul can react with the material world; because they are concomitant at the same time: i.e. at the same time these souls are present and the living humans are present in the same time and may be at the same place. But souls cannot cope with the material living people; because the sounds, the wind, the smells, the noise, the insects, the birds …etc will be harmful to them.
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Soul_after_Death_
Souls cannot make noise, (the alive genies or demons may do such a noise); on the contrary voices of souls will be hushed and they speak to each other, but cannot speak with us, except in the way of inspiring us and in dreams during our sleep.
This is because the material mouth (and its appendages like the jaws) is like the loudspeaker for the soul; i.e. it is the soul that talks, but through the material mouth so that we may hear the alive person speak (this is when he is alive, but when he dies he cannot speak with any audible voice)
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Speaking_and_the_Uttering_
Moreover, the brain is only some cells and tissues; and without the soul, the brain cannot think: when the soul leaves the body, the brain cannot think of its own accord other than some vital processes that occur during the sleep like the autonomic system activities.
So it is the soul that thinks, perceives the pain and the pleasure, sees and hears; but through the organs of the body.
eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Soul_after_Death_
Souls cannot make noise, (the alive genies or demons may do such a noise); on the contrary voices of souls will be hushed and they speak to each other, but cannot speak with us, except in the way of inspiring us and in dreams during our sleep.
This is because the material mouth (and its appendages like the jaws) is like the loudspeaker for the soul; i.e. it is the soul that talks, but through the material mouth so that we may hear the alive person speak (this is when he is alive, but when he dies he cannot speak with any audible voice)
http://man-after-death.site.io/#The_Speaking_and_the_Uttering_
Moreover, the brain is only some cells and tissues; and without the soul, the brain cannot think: when the soul leaves the body, the brain cannot think of its own accord other than some vital processes that occur during the sleep like the autonomic system activities.
So it is the soul that thinks, perceives the pain and the pleasure, sees and hears; but through the organs of the body.
eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io
Good morning, sorry to have been so 'blunt', not thinking I guess.
don't disappear, we need you here, you are an important part
of the day.
Just sitting here watching my dog, 'watching' tv, certain shows catch his interest.;-)
Beautiful morning here, seems ideal for a long walk by the river, think I'll do that.
Not going to think about 'life after death', how about 'life on earth', there is a point
to that I would think, as the importance of our connection to our earth is far too
ignored, and all of this energy about life after death, is so hollow.
Perhaps. But not nearly as stupid as one who believes in fantasies as being real.
Atheists don't have gods. Therefore the "favors" are not "gifts" but simply objects, abilities, and pleasures the universe has in it. Evolution has developed our senses and indeed our bodies. Mothers and fathers create sons and daughters, not some superstitious being. The earth revolving around the sun makes day and night. Nature provides food, water, and clothing.
Wrong, the believer will believe that they have much of such bounties of their god(s). The atheist will enjoy many bounties created by the universe.
Wrong again. Each will die and because there is no afterlife, the believer will have wasted a large portion of his life believing in and preparing for something that is a simple fantasy. So the believer is the loser.
If there is such an irrational and ridiculous thing as an afterlife, then if the atheist is good, he should be rewarded for being good.
(Belief sure requires an awful lot of "ifs").
As I said, when the believer discovers that there is no afterlife, then they will discover who really is the stupid one. lol
I don't care. I can't read it anyway.
Perhaps that is the interpretation of it. I don't care because it has as much validity as the Torah, the Bible, the Bhagwat Gita, the Tipitaka, etc.
What really is stupid is the concept that the entrance into some valhalla or happy hunting ground is gauged by what or if someone believes in something and not by their deeds.
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I don't "wrangle". If I don't encounter evidence of something I simply consider it as being fantasy. No "wrangling" involved.
Explanation is not evidence.
That's not very humane nor even nice.
The atheist then produces a medical doctor who produces evidence of broken capillaries, nerve ending irritation, bruises, etc.
The believer produces words from a book.
Still no evidence.
Stone is denser than living tissue. Graphite and diamond are both carbon, the graphite cannot impact diamond, but diamond can impact graphite. Hitting a softer object such as living tissue with a harder object results in observable damage. There is no such thing as "the Devil".2- Then the believer said: "You are created from earth
It's decreed that believers should wander about hitting people with stones? And you say atheists are stupid? lmao
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