Is the human race mutating?

[Curiosity]

I believe gang rape has always been a part of society - group drink/think and pick a victim

The difference now however is the internet availability for showing off the result - I grew up with regular
news of gang rapes at beach parties but night pictures never worked then because there was no light.

One morning an early trip to a beach in the west end of Vancouver - the party was over - but the actors were still there - passed out - lying in their stomach contents and the victim out cold semi-nude. The tableau
was obvious and while we all giggled nervously I have never looked at that beach again with the same eyes and felt with the same heart.

Took the edge off the beauty of the sun and sand and fabulous water.... with the tide kissing the shore.

 

[JLM]

Sarcasm aside.... Yes, too true gerryh, indeed it did and worse. We ladies who are old enough to remember the bad old days remember all too well horrific things that happened to female friends, relatives, schoolmates, coworkers... Always hushed up and always the guilt and shame was endured by the female, no matter how illogical that was nor how blameless she was. Those that didn't 'disappear' - the family found out (Pregnant! You shameless slu*!!) and she'd be shipped out to other relatives far away or anywhere but her home (What will the neighbours say?!!), or one went to the funeral with a burning rage you swallowed down along with the tears. I'm not talking centuries, it was like that well into the early seventies when women started talking about it and fighting back.


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Very good post, Bcool. I don't think the violence that happens today is any worse than in the past, but what does seem to stick out is that people who are supposed to be your friends and help in a situation like this don't and when the cops want witnesses they just dummy up. NO one wants to get involved anymore.

 

[taxslave]

No "evil" is necessary. Unless of course you feel that the death penalty is necessary, or that abortion is necessary.

Neither is evil and both are necessary.

 

[JLM]

Neither is evil and both are necessary.

Absolutely, Taxslave, BUT I would add- "on rare occasions". :smile:

 

[gerryh]

Neither is evil and both are necessary.

killing isn't evil, and is necessary...... ok... got it.

 

[karrie]

I never say NEVER, but certainly not with the regularity we've seen lately. :smile:

Walk away from the news service and refocus on your immeidate community, and you'll find it goes back to being only as common as it was 'back when'.

 

[critter171]

The horrible incident in Pitt Meadows (16 year old girl doped, gang raped and then photographed for Facebook and U tube) No one at the party came to her aid. In West Kelowna recently a teenage girl was murdered at a party while no one made a move to help her. What are we raising and why is it happening? If in fact it takes a community to raise a child, then our communities are rotten. I'm sure not one to diagnose the situation but I sure do wonder if lack of parental supervision isn't part of the equation. :---(

People are afraid to help or do want to get involved into it as they don't care or none of there business

 

[JLM]

People are afraid to help or do want to get involved into it as they don't care or none of there business

People who don't care about the welfare of their fellow human or don't consider his/her welfare to be any of their business are just as "sad" as the perpetrators and don't deserve to be part of a civilized world.

 

[mystimorn]

Parental supervision may be a part of the equation. But... when our government keeps taking responsibilities of the parents away from them, tells parents they can't discipline their kids, and the parents are losing their rights as parents well this begins to happen imo.
Some kids today throw it in their parents faces that they don't have to do this, they don't have to do that or they will go to the police or children's aid.
So yes it may be part the parents fault but there are others who fit into the equation too.


I can't recall the title of the movie but I once watched or began to watch a dvd about a murderer who used a website on the internet to kill his victims. Every time someone logged on to watch what was happening the person got closer to being murdered. The log ons to his website were astronomical. In the movie people loved to watch someone die.
That movie, to say the least , was disturbing. It made me wonder if humans would actually do this, log onto a website to watch this happen to another human being. Sorry to say but I believe they would. That is what is the most disturbing.
And no I didn't watch the entire movie.
But then people like to watch movies like Saw too. There I didn't watch Saw but admit to watching Friday the 13th movies when I was younger , though they did leave more to a persons imagination back then.
Mysti

 

[JLM]

Parental supervision may be a part of the equation. But... when our government keeps taking responsibilities of the parents away from them, tells parents they can't discipline their kids, and the parents are losing their rights as parents well this begins to happen imo.
Some kids today throw it in their parents faces that they don't have to do this, they don't have to do that or they will go to the police or children's aid.
So yes it may be part the parents fault but there are others who fit into the equation too.

Right on Mysti- it's just part of the program for finding jobs for bureaucrats who have nothing better to do than stick their noses in other's business. On the other hand there are "parents" today who need to be closely supervised as they are nothing more than children (mentally) themselves. Drugs are a main contributing factor- nothing will be completely right until that aspect of society is eliminated.

 

[Liberalman]

The horrible incident in Pitt Meadows (16 year old girl doped, gang raped and then photographed for Facebook and U tube) No one at the party came to her aid. In West Kelowna recently a teenage girl was murdered at a party while no one made a move to help her. What are we raising and why is it happening? If in fact it takes a community to raise a child, then our communities are rotten. I'm sure not one to diagnose the situation but I sure do wonder if lack of parental supervision isn't part of the equation. :---(

It’s all that porn that is easy to access on the Internet and streaming video made it more higher quality media.

All kinds of sexual deviancy that is available to anyone that wants it from children experiencing puberty to the older population.

A long time ago one had to jump through hoops to get on those sites but now all of the security features have been removed.

What happened to the police that monitor this or government that is supposed to pass laws against this?

The government has to make the Internet service providers responsible for this because as the girl that had to go through that horrific experience it was like the ISPs covering the ears of the other people that were there so they could not hear.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Sexual deviancy has been around as long as people have been, and maybe
longer than that. I recall a video that Spaminator posted onto this Forum of
a Monkey sexually assaulting a Frog. That was absolutely nasty.....

Access to information is what has changed in the last generation or two, to
levels never seen in human history. Fifty years ago, if this Gang Rape
happened in BC, would someone in Ontario have even heard about it?
That wouldn't mean that it didn't happen....just that it would have only
been known of locally.

The Police are yanking this video of this Rape off the internet as fast as they
can, but its being re-posted elsewhere as fast as they can have it taken down.

Nobody can predict and quash something that hasn't been posted yet until
it happens, but can only react to it once it does happen, and hopefully with
some Draconian deterrents so that others will not repeat that behavior. If
they could predict & quash this behavior before it happened, there would
be no need for Moderators on this Forum, or elsewhere, and the word SPAM
would only mean Spiced Ham as the Unsolicited Advertising wouldn't exist.

If ISP's had to be responsible for the content of their customers as soon as
they post something (or predicatively before they do so), Forums like this
would be one of the first things to go extinct. I know, first hand, that some
pretty weird shyte hits this Forum very often, but most of it is caught before
anyone sees it. Most is not all though...and some of the stuff that slips by
the Auto-Mod & the Mods is there until someone (a Member) points it out.
That might be in minutes from its happening, or years later if it wasn't
reported and just buries itself in the Thousands of Threads here over the
years....

Trust me when I say that Kiddie Porn HAS hit this Forum, and we've removed
it, & contacted the local authorities, who have worked with Interpol on it. With
the right to access to the internet does come responsibilities.