Is referring to Canadian aboriginal people as Indians PC or not?

[Cannuck]

You got that right, Cliffy, it was P.C. (hate that f**king term) for 500 years, what's changed?

The world around you. Deal with it.

The only issue I have with political correctness is the double standards. The NCAA has issues with the North Dakota Fighting Sioux nickname.....

North Dakota nickname dispute to end | NCAA.com

... But not the Notre Dame Fighting Irish nickname. You gotta wonder why no reporter ever asked the folks at NCAA why the double standard exists.

 

[Blackleaf]

He was an Italian, and did not speak or write very good Spanish, so in his written accounts he called the Indians, 'Una gente in Dios.' A people in God. In God. In Dios. Indians. It's a perfectly noble and respectable word."

They're actually called Indians because when Columbus landed in the Americas (in the Caribbean) he thought he was in India, as he thought a westwards voyage across the Atlantic would take him straight to Asia.

As for whether it's PC to call Indians "Indians". Does it matter? Being PC is usually the wrong thing to do. Most Indians themselves, especially the older ones, prefer to be called American Indians.

 

[JLM]

White dogooders.

That is the God's truth. Remember Bill Konyk who had the pyrogy restaurant at Granville and Helmcken in Vancouver years ago. He dubbed himself "Hunky Bill" and a bunch of meddling old women got up in arms and wanted the moniker banned, because they thought it was disrespectful.

They're actually called Indians because when Columbus landed in the Americas (in the Caribbean) he thought he was in India, as he thought a westwards voyage across the Atlantic would take him straight to Asia.

For once there Blackie I have to congratulate you. You are actually correct about something Maybe this should be declared a National Holiday in Old Blighty.

 

[Blackleaf]

He was an Italian, and did not speak or write very good Spanish,

He wasn't Italian. He was Genoese, from the Republic of Genoa, which was an independent sovereign state between 1005 and 1797. Italy didn't exist when Columbus was alive. It was only created on 17th March 1861 when the many little city-states which occupied the peninsular, which had existed for centuries and which were often warring with one another, unified to form the Kingdom of Italy. As a sovereign state, Italy is only 153 years' old.

For once there Blackie I have to congratulate you. You are actually correct about something Maybe this should be declared a National Holiday in Old Blighty.

I'm almost always right.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

:love8::love8::love8:I don't subscribe to labels and I'm colour blind.:love8::love8:

 

[Locutus]

 

[Blackleaf]

Pop singer Ellie Goulding has fallen foul of the internet's abundant PC Brigade and been accused of racism.

Now what terrible act of racism did the 27-year-old commit? Her terrible bigotry was, apparently, dressing up in a Red Indian costume.​

So shocking and terrible was this act of sheer, raw racism that Cyberspace's resident loony, swivel-eyed Guardianistas immediately bayed for her blood.​

She was accused of ‘promoting racism and cultural appropriation’. Donning a Red Indian head-dress was ‘no different from wearing black face’. Another indignant Instagrammer complained that ‘cultures are not costumes’.

One of them even wrote: ‘Next time don’t mock a dying race you insensitive and ignorant excuse of a person.’

As punishment Miss Goulding has now been forced to make a donation to Running Strong, a charity which ‘gives grants to organisations supporting Native American young people.’

Let's hope that's a lesson to her and other would be racists who upset the internet's Left-wingers.


RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: As a singer is accused of 'racism' for wearing a Red Indian fancy dress... Next these idiots will stop children playing Cowboys and Indians

By Richard Littlejohn for the Daily Mail
6 November 2014
Daily Mail​

Singer Ellie Goulding, who was criticised for donning a Red Indian headdress as a Halloween costume

Ellie Goulding, who is described as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s wedding singer, announced yesterday that she is making a donation to Running Strong, a charity which ‘gives grants to organisations supporting Native American young people’.

Why? Miss Goulding hails from Herefordshire. I know we are legally obliged to celebrate diversity at all times, but I wasn’t aware there was a substantial Sioux settlement in the grounds of Hereford’s magnificent cathedral.

This historic county on the Welsh borders is more famous for its splendid beef herds than buffalo. On the basis that charity begins at home, what possessed Miss Goulding to give generously to an organisation devoted to helping Red Indians?

It turns out that, as the Mail reported yesterday, she posted on the internet some pictures of herself wearing a Native American costume for Halloween, which was enough for her to become embroiled in a ‘race row’.

To be honest, I’ve never heard of her. But apparently Miss Goulding has 3.6 million ‘followers’ on something called Instagram. So she must be popular in certain circles. And ‘hundreds’ of them immediately took offence at the photographs, branding her ‘racist’, ‘ignorant’ and ‘insensitive’.

She was accused of ‘promoting racism and cultural appropriation’. Donning a Red Indian head-dress was ‘no different from wearing black face’. Another indignant Instagrammer complained that ‘cultures are not costumes’.

My favourite was the individual who wrote: ‘Next time don’t mock a dying race you insensitive and ignorant excuse of a person.’ Nurse!

Far from being a ‘dying race’, many Native Americans are flourishing across the board, including serving in Congress, running businesses such as casinos and selling cheap cigarettes on their official ‘reservations’. All over the U.S, surviving tobacconists’ shops still use life-sized models of traditional cigar store Indians to advertise their wares.

Of course, there are professional grievance-mongers cashing in on alleged prejudice, sometimes with hilarious consequences and trebles all round for the lawyers.

Only this week, the owner of the mighty Washington Redskins American football team was given permission to sue activists who earlier this year won a case cancelling trademarks protecting the team’s name because it is ‘disparaging to Native Americans’.

This court battle has been running for eight years. According to the Independent newspaper, one of the leading protagonists is ‘Navajo psychiatric worker Amanda Blackhorse’.

Now there’s a sentence I never though I’d read — or, indeed, write — in a British publication. Mind you, I shouldn’t be surprised if what’s left of the Guardian’s jobs pages isn’t filled with local council recruitment ads for ‘Navajo psychiatric workers’ who are currently under-represented in our Town Halls.

(Incidentally, when did you ever hear of a Red Indian being called Amanda?)

Perhaps Hereford council already employs a Navajo psychiatric worker and she (it’s bound to be a woman) is behind the online lynching of Ellie Goulding.

For her part, Miss Goulding insists she’s not a racist and was only following the example of Sinitta, Harry Styles and Pharrell Williams, whoever they are.

She also says Cher wears a Red Indian outfit. Now then, I have heard of Cher and from what I recall she’s entitled to the full Hiawatha kit on account of being part-Cherokee.

Miss Goulding has now been forced to make a donation to Running Strong, a charity which ‘gives grants to organisations supporting Native American young people’

Cher is a prominent campaigner for assorted minority ‘rights’ in Hollywood. After splitting up with Sonny Bono in the Sixties, she established herself as a solo artist with a succession of hits, including Gypsies, Tramps And Thieves, Half-Breed and Dark Lady.

I doubt if she’d get away with releasing songs with those titles today — certainly not in 21st-century Britain.

Not without attracting the approbation of lawyers acting for the ‘travelling community’, half a dozen homeless charities, and falling foul of the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act and whatever the old Race Relations Board calls itself this week.

One of the mysteries of the modern age is the ability of so many people to take instant offence on behalf of others and seek out insult where none exists.

In the case of Ellie Goulding, the Tory MP Philip Davies summed it up thus: ‘As far as I’m concerned, all of these people who are complaining are idiots.’

He dismisses them as ‘Guardian-reading, sandal-wearing, politically correct do-gooders’.

It’s hardly an original thought and not strictly accurate. Virtually no one outside the BBC reads the Guardian any more. I read it, so that you don’t have to.

Miss Goulding, 27, was following the example of dozens of stars, including singer Sinitta (pictured), who have been pictured wearing Native American headdresses in recent months

Davies is right, however, about those whose cause is being championed never taking any offence themselves.

For instance, I have yet to meet any black person who is remotely offended by the Britannia Coconutters, a troupe of Morris Dancers in Bacup, Lancashire who have been monstered by the Left for wearing traditional black face (which is a reference to the area's coalmining heritage).

Nor have I come across a single British Muslim who wants to ban Christmas. Yet the Guardianistas who run local government ban Christmas cards and Easter bunnies and invent ‘inclusive’ festivals such as Birmingham’s ridiculous Winterval.

While there is undeniably a political dimension to this censorious vendetta, aimed at trashing traditional values, that doesn’t explain the daily, hair-trigger outpourings of bile on forums such as Twitter.

Clearly, some of those who post abuse and death threats on the internet are in the advanced stages of mental illness and should be sectioned for their own protection.

How else do you explain someone, somewhere in Middle England, sitting in front of a computer working themselves into a lather of indignation over a perceived slight to Red Indians?

Bacup, Lancashire's Morris dancing troupe, Britannia Coconutters

Cher who is thought to be entitled to wear the full Hiawatha kit on account of being part-Cherokee

The reason most of these imbeciles do it is because they can. The internet has given them an empty vessel in which to vent their own pathetic frustrations.

The problem is that victim culture has embedded itself deep into our body politic and wider society. I’m always mystified as to where all this anger comes from. Most of it is simply bullying by any other name, with websites affording these cowardly parasites the luxury of anonymity.

Whenever anyone sneezes, the Twitterati go into apoplectic convulsions, accusing all and sundry of racism, sexism, you name an -ism, they’ve got it.

But I have to admit, the plight of Native Americans hasn’t loomed large on the British political landscape until now. What brought that on, other than a desire to intimidate and frighten a blameless young pop singer?

I don’t suppose the Apache community were especially upset at Miss Goulding. Like me, they’ve probably never heard of her.

What would her tormentors have made of the black singer Felipe Rose, who used to dress up as a Red Indian in the gay torch band the Village People, who had a hit with Y.M.C.A. in the late-Seventies?

Who was he offending — blacks, homosexuals or Red Indians? All three? Or none of the above? Have they ever seen the brilliant TV series Treme, shown here on Sky Atlantic, which features a group of black men in New Orleans, led by the wonderful Clark Peters, who dress up in Native American costumes for Mardi Gras?

I’m old enough to remember How!, an ITV educational children’s show presented by Fred Dinenage, which greeted viewers with a Red Indian salute.

I can also recall former football referee-turned Labour Minister Denis Howell importing a Red Indian medicine man to perform a rain dance during the great drought of 1976.

Then there was Running Bear, the pop hit about an Indian brave sung by Johnny Preston and written by the Big Bopper, who died in the same plane crash as Buddy Holly.

The Twitterati would be incandescent if that came out today, particularly the line: ‘Running Bear loved Little White Dove . . .’ You can bet your life the BBC would leave it in a cupboard to gather dust alongside Rolf Harris’s Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport.

Back to Ellie Goulding, which is where we came in. Why is a Native American costume any more offensive than dressing up as a Beefeater or a Spice Girl for Halloween?

The only thing she’s done wrong is to try to appease these morons by donating money to the Running Strong charity, which is tantamount to an admission of guilt.

And that’s not the end of it. The madness is spreading. The organisers of the BBC/Guardianista love-in which used to be the Glastonbury Pop Festival have just announced they are banning Red Indian costumes.

They’ll be stopping children playing Cowboys and Indians next. Which will only help to prove that the whole world has gone completely Tonto.

Read more: Ellie Goulding is accused of 'racism' for wearing a Red Indian fancy dress | Daily Mail Online
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[B00Mer]

Well if the RedSkins are so insulted about being treated differently, from us white folk... then I say treat them equally..

Start by taking away their reserves, tax free status and welfare checks and tell them to get a job and assimilate mother fukkers.

 

[EagleSmack]

I get so offended when I hear Native Americans on TV and in movies say things like...


"The white man says..."


"Then the white man comes..."


I get so mad.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I get so offended when I hear Native Americans on TV and in movies say things like...


"The white man says..."


"Then the white man comes..."


I get so mad.

Does seem to be your dominant mode.

 

[Walter]

Who cares?

 

[Blackleaf]

I get so offended when I hear Native Americans on TV and in movies say things like...


"The white man says..."


"Then the white man comes..."


I get so mad.

This proud white, heterosexual, Christian male is also offended by it. It's racism. Red Indians should just go back to chucking spears about. What else are they good for?

 

[B00Mer]

I get so offended when I hear Native Americans on TV and in movies say things like...

"The white man says..."

"Then the white man comes..."

I get so mad.

You bleed when the white man says bleed; you bite when the white man says bite; and you bark when the white man says bark. from Malcolm X

 

[Blackleaf]

You bleed when the white man says bleed; you bite when the white man says bite; and you bark when the white man says bark. from Malcolm X

Typical black man. Never makes any sense.

 

[JLM]

I get so offended when I hear Native Americans on TV and in movies say things like...


"The white man says..."


"Then the white man comes..."


I get so mad.

Why?

This proud white, heterosexual, Christian male is also offended by it. It's racism. Red Indians should just go back to chucking spears about. What else are they good for?

You're an A$$hole!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Why?




You're an A$$hole!

Yeah, but he's a proud, white, heterosexual, Christian, male a$$hole.

 

[captain morgan]

Should he feel shame for such?

 

[B00Mer]

Yeah, but he's a proud, white, heterosexual, Christian, male a$$hole.

"Be All You Can Be"

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

"Be All You Can Be"

Oh, he is, he is!

 

[B00Mer]

Oh, he is, he is!

You got it Honey BooBoo