Is Obama Toast?

coldstream

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I don't think Obama is toast. My sense is he'll win re-election by winning Ohio in November and add himself to the list of mediocrities that have inhabited the Oval Office since Lyndon Johnson.. without exception.

All have promoted policies of decline and sell out of American sovereignty to global trading and financial interests, of equitably shared wealth creation, and of life affirming social policies. The only reason i don't include Johnson, who had a disastrous Presidency by way of Viet Nam, is that he was the last President who had any type of grasp of how economies really function. Everyone since then has been bamboozled by Free Market nonsense.

Obama is just another incompetent twit added to the litany of Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr...
 
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JLM

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I don't think Obama is toast. My sense is he'll win re-election by winning Ohio in November and add himself to the list of mediocrities that have inhabited the Oval Office since Lyndon Johnson.. without exception.

All have promoted policies of decline and sell out of American sovereignty to global trading and financial interests, of equitably shared wealth creation, and of life affirming social policies. The only reason i don't include Johnson, who had a disastrous Presidency by way of Viet Nam, is that he was the last President who had any type of grasp of how economies really function. Everyone since then has been bamboozled by Free Market nonsense.

Obama is just another incompetent twit added to the litany of Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr...

Your high esteem for presidents is commendable! :smile:
 

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In the event of a close election, however, the ties between the Romney family, their supporters and the voting machine company raise the specter of a potential conflict of interest and the memory of the controversy surrounding the 2004 election results in Ohio.



Reports of Hart Intercivic’s ties to Romney first surfaced in late September, in a blog post by Gerry Bello and Bob Fitrakis in the Free Press, an Ohio website that reported that a key investor in Hart was HIG Capital, seven of whose directors were former employees of Bain & Co., a consulting company of which Mitt Romney was once CEO. HIG Capital announced its investment in Hart on July 6, 2011, just one month after Romney formally announced the launch of his presidential campaign.


Nor were those the only ties between Hart and the Romney camp. Four of the HIG directors, Tony Tamer, John Bolduc, Douglas Berman and Brian D. Schwartz, are Romney bundlers along with former Bain and HIG manager Brian Shortsleeve, and, according to Opensecrets.org, a website run by the Center for Responsive Politics, HIG Capital has contributed $338,000 to the Romney campaign this year. Moreover, according to a reportin the Nation, HIG Capital is tied to the Romney family via Solamere, a private equity firm that has invested in HIG and is run by Tagg Romney, the candidate’s son.

Solamere, however, has released a statement asserting that “Neither Solamere nor its principals have any ownership in the company or in the fund that owns the company.”

Nevertheless, so many troubling questions about the 2004 election in Ohio remained unanswered that when Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner succeeded Ken Blackwell, she commissioned a study in 2007 called Project Everest to evaluate Hart and other voting systems in use in Ohio at the time.

Its conclusion? The Hart system performed “poorly” because unauthorized individuals could gain access to memory cards and “easily tamper” with core voting data, and Hart scored a “zero” on the 12-step baseline comparison because it “failed to meet any of the 12 basic best practices” necessary to have a secure system.

Lichtenheld said Hart has not upgraded its product since the Project Everest report but he attributed the harsh assessment of Hart’s system to the fact that the people evaluating it “were given unfettered access.” “There are many ways to compromise it given unfettered access,” he said. “They had all the time in the world and didn’t have to worry about security breaches.”


Romney-linked voting machine company to count votes in Ohio - Salon.com
 

DaSleeper

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In the event of a close election, however, the ties between the Romney family, their supporters and the voting machine company raise the specter of a potential conflict of interest and the memory of the controversy surrounding the 2004 election results in Ohio.



Reports of Hart Intercivic’s ties to Romney first surfaced in late September, in a blog post by Gerry Bello and Bob Fitrakis in the Free Press, an Ohio website that reported that a key investor in Hart was HIG Capital, seven of whose directors were former employees of Bain & Co., a consulting company of which Mitt Romney was once CEO. HIG Capital announced its investment in Hart on July 6, 2011, just one month after Romney formally announced the launch of his presidential campaign.


Nor were those the only ties between Hart and the Romney camp. Four of the HIG directors, Tony Tamer, John Bolduc, Douglas Berman and Brian D. Schwartz, are Romney bundlers along with former Bain and HIG manager Brian Shortsleeve, and, according to Opensecrets.org, a website run by the Center for Responsive Politics, HIG Capital has contributed $338,000 to the Romney campaign this year. Moreover, according to a reportin the Nation, HIG Capital is tied to the Romney family via Solamere, a private equity firm that has invested in HIG and is run by Tagg Romney, the candidate’s son.

Solamere, however, has released a statement asserting that “Neither Solamere nor its principals have any ownership in the company or in the fund that owns the company.”

Nevertheless, so many troubling questions about the 2004 election in Ohio remained unanswered that when Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner succeeded Ken Blackwell, she commissioned a study in 2007 called Project Everest to evaluate Hart and other voting systems in use in Ohio at the time.

Its conclusion? The Hart system performed “poorly” because unauthorized individuals could gain access to memory cards and “easily tamper” with core voting data, and Hart scored a “zero” on the 12-step baseline comparison because it “failed to meet any of the 12 basic best practices” necessary to have a secure system.

Lichtenheld said Hart has not upgraded its product since the Project Everest report but he attributed the harsh assessment of Hart’s system to the fact that the people evaluating it “were given unfettered access.” “There are many ways to compromise it given unfettered access,” he said. “They had all the time in the world and didn’t have to worry about security breaches.”


Romney-linked voting machine company to count votes in Ohio - Salon.com

Déja Vu

Pro-Romney firm buys voting machine company, raises alarms


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Pro-Romney firm's purchase of voting machine company raises alarms
Repeating yourself

and the same answer again

 

tay

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Slide up to 33:30 for the Voting machine story......



Inside Karl Rove



Well, there was no question there was massive fraud. If you want to actually count the votes, unfortunately it’s impossible because so much evidence was destroyed. And then that’s why Mike Connell was such an important witness, and his death meant that—you know, I quoted—I talked to Mike Connell’s sister, who said either—there are only two possibilities, really, that Connell was murdered—and I don’t see any evidence of that—or that he was in an accident, in which case Karl Rove is the luckiest man alive.
 
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DaSleeper

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It took you a while to find someone making lots of money selling books to lefties
 

tay

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No. I actually listen to Democracy Now every day so I recalled that interview..............