Is magic real?
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So why don't they complain about books like Lords of the Rings? There's magic in there too...
They do, though not as much since it doesn't take place on modern earth. I actually applaud them. It takes gumption to still go out and say "Yes we believe in our faith still, even the parts the rest of the of the world thinks are stupid and that we should ignore"
I suppose it all depends on who's viewing the "magic". My daughter was banned from demonstrating her science fair project about dousing for water because it's also called "witching" - a very real thing. Superstition is alive and well....
Wolf
Wolf
So you're saying that a salmon can find the exact spot it hatched by using magic? I don't think I can agree with that sort of thing.
Magic like religion, is a suspension of critical thinking in the face of obscurity for the weak minded.
Yes, the church has to stand for something - sadly, all it has left to stand for is superstition and credulity.
Is magic real? C'mon, what a silly question. . .
Pangloss
Is magic real? C'mon, what a silly question. . .
Pangloss
What is magic?
He is woken up in the morning by some magic box that makes rhythmic sounds with voices of people inside it (they must be trapped by a wizard!) speaking in tongues.
There is a magic waterfall in his magically heated dwelling (it's walls have invisible magic barriers that keep the warmth inside!) in which he bathes (every day!!) and there's a magic urn that whisks off his excrement and magically refills itself with blue water!
His clothing has magic fasteners that "zip" up and some that sticks like magic.
He goes outside and gets in this weird magic carriage that moves with no horses pulling it! It seems to know when he is making a turn, and blinks tiny lanterns on the outside.
It has the same voices and rhythmic sounds only much louder and one voice is apparently coming from some other magic carriage that flies over the city watching the horseless carriages.
When he arrives at his work (what kind of work can they do here with everyone just sitting there staring at these magic windows and drumming their fingers on the table?) and walks into a little room with no windows.
The door closes and I suddenly felt heavier (must have been that food we picked up from the magic window with the clown in front) and when the doors opened up again, everyone outside the room had changed! The aisles and rows of magic windows were the same, but the PEOPLE were different! That button he pushed in the small magic room most be able to create and destroy people at a whim! Surely he works for a wizard!
The door opened and closed a few times and people got on and off. but he never warned others to stay in the magic resurrection room, (likely because there's only room for so many people...).
Finally he found the right set of people he liked and stepped out of the little room.
He has his own little space with a magic window, (but his window looks into this bulletin board of sorts), only there is no paper and a little arrow on the window tells him what to read next.
After a day of "work", he heads back home in his carriage, stopping at a shop on the way home. This shop had nothing but rows of little windows with people and animals trapped inside! It had to be some kind of magic zoo (or prison).
It seems he bailed one of the windows (people or animal, I don't know) from the zoo and brought it with him in a big box.
Back in his dwelling, he took the new window out of the box and set it in the corner. It seems to have a world of its own inside...
He watched the magic window for hours, while drinking magic potion (it fizzes!) from the magic cold chamber in the kitchen. It seemed to make him happy and laugh a lot. Or maybe it was the magic herb he smoked like the indians smoke tobacco in the new world. He'd light it with a magic torch he held in his hand (at first I thought it WAS his hand magically lighting the herb stick (laughing out loud!!)).
Through the magic window he'd look in on his "Friends" once in a while. (I'm suspicious, because if they were indeed his friends, wouldn't they speak to him or talk about him from time to time?)
There were game worlds, where they ask questions but they never seem to hear when he shouts out the answers. He gets so mad he throws things...
Occasionally the window shows my own world and I'm tempted to try and break through, but I don't recognize any of the folks from there. Seems to be some rich family with a ranch called the Ponderosa. Nice spread, but I never heard of it. That "Hoss" guy is sure an idiot!
There's another one with these two cowboys, (but they also have these horseless types) who actually fall in love! With each other! When they have perfectly good wives!
Signed,
18th Century Time Traveller
Muz
He is woken up in the morning by some magic box that makes rhythmic sounds with voices of people inside it (they must be trapped by a wizard!) speaking in tongues.
There is a magic waterfall in his magically heated dwelling (it's walls have invisible magic barriers that keep the warmth inside!) in which he bathes (every day!!) and there's a magic urn that whisks off his excrement and magically refills itself with blue water!
His clothing has magic fasteners that "zip" up and some that sticks like magic.
He goes outside and gets in this weird magic carriage that moves with no horses pulling it! It seems to know when he is making a turn, and blinks tiny lanterns on the outside.
It has the same voices and rhythmic sounds only much louder and one voice is apparently coming from some other magic carriage that flies over the city watching the horseless carriages.
When he arrives at his work (what kind of work can they do here with everyone just sitting there staring at these magic windows and drumming their fingers on the table?) and walks into a little room with no windows.
The door closes and I suddenly felt heavier (must have been that food we picked up from the magic window with the clown in front) and when the doors opened up again, everyone outside the room had changed! The aisles and rows of magic windows were the same, but the PEOPLE were different! That button he pushed in the small magic room most be able to create and destroy people at a whim! Surely he works for a wizard!
The door opened and closed a few times and people got on and off. but he never warned others to stay in the magic resurrection room, (likely because there's only room for so many people...).
Finally he found the right set of people he liked and stepped out of the little room.
He has his own little space with a magic window, (but his window looks into this bulletin board of sorts), only there is no paper and a little arrow on the window tells him what to read next.
After a day of "work", he heads back home in his carriage, stopping at a shop on the way home. This shop had nothing but rows of little windows with people and animals trapped inside! It had to be some kind of magic zoo (or prison).
It seems he bailed one of the windows (people or animal, I don't know) from the zoo and brought it with him in a big box.
Back in his dwelling, he took the new window out of the box and set it in the corner. It seems to have a world of its own inside...
He watched the magic window for hours, while drinking magic potion (it fizzes!) from the magic cold chamber in the kitchen. It seemed to make him happy and laugh a lot. Or maybe it was the magic herb he smoked like the indians smoke tobacco in the new world. He'd light it with a magic torch he held in his hand (at first I thought it WAS his hand magically lighting the herb stick (laughing out loud!!)).
Through the magic window he'd look in on his "Friends" once in a while. (I'm suspicious, because if they were indeed his friends, wouldn't they speak to him or talk about him from time to time?)
There were game worlds, where they ask questions but they never seem to hear when he shouts out the answers. He gets so mad he throws things...
Occasionally the window shows my own world and I'm tempted to try and break through, but I don't recognize any of the folks from there. Seems to be some rich family with a ranch called the Ponderosa. Nice spread, but I never heard of it. That "Hoss" guy is sure an idiot!
There's another one with these two cowboys, (but they also have these horseless types) who actually fall in love! With each other! When they have perfectly good wives!
Signed,
18th Century Time Traveller
Muz
Well if they are gonna complain about Harry Potter because magic is supposedly real and dangerous, all they have to do is back their claims and proove us magic truly does exist... If they want to be credible they've got to show us that magic is real, not simply tell us.
Science does understand that. Fish have an incredible sense of smell, they follow the organic particles in the water which lead them back to their home rivers. After that it's a grab for position and prime location.
Magic, pffft. The day I see a physical law broken, that's the day I consider I'm insane, or need to go for a complete physical.
Physical laws are broken all the time. Thats when we write a new physical law.
Did you know it was a FACT that mankind couldn't go over, what was it? 50mph without dying? Transmutation was also a fact as impossible, talk of alchemy and magic. Right up until atomic science said "look what I can do!".
A physical law being broken just means we don't understand the physical law. Magic is literally just a way of saying "We don't know how its done yet".
Even if magic like harry potter was real, there would be a scientific explanation for it. "When wood of this plant vibrates at the right frequency caused by noise, an internal chemical reaction causes air molecules to excite outwards in a cone and set fire when it contacts combustible material" or some other gobbley guk. If a guy could wave his hands and make people turn into toads, their too would be an explanation for that magic, we just wouldn't know it yet.
Did you know it was a FACT that mankind couldn't go over, what was it? 50mph without dying? Transmutation was also a fact as impossible, talk of alchemy and magic. Right up until atomic science said "look what I can do!".
A physical law being broken just means we don't understand the physical law. Magic is literally just a way of saying "We don't know how its done yet".
Even if magic like harry potter was real, there would be a scientific explanation for it. "When wood of this plant vibrates at the right frequency caused by noise, an internal chemical reaction causes air molecules to excite outwards in a cone and set fire when it contacts combustible material" or some other gobbley guk. If a guy could wave his hands and make people turn into toads, their too would be an explanation for that magic, we just wouldn't know it yet.
Physical laws as in based on repeated empirical measurements are rarely broken, theories yes, but laws rarely. Perhaps back when ignorance ruled the minds of humanity and the world sat on a tortoise back or the like.
If I ever see someone mutter a few arcane words or wave their arms around and generate flames, light or anything else from out of the thin air, again, I'll consider that I am deceived somehow before I ever believe it happened.
I think the word occult has to be my absolute favourite words of all time. A word who's true meaning is ignored and which is now used to degenerate something. I don't personally remember when the Romans used to call the "christians" a cult, but they did. The word occult really means hidden or secret. The word is bandied around in the same manner leftard or right wing nutter are.
And I think that magic exists. In fact, I know that it does. It works in a very subtle way, not the way people expect it to work. It doesn't directly change things, I mean, if you say some spell and wave a magic wand, things won't change the way you want right away. But there is some subtle, but very strong power, that is hard to define. If it ever takes some notice of you, you can call to it, asking it to help you. You can do it by performing certain rituals, or while in a trip. And when it helps, it helps by giving you certain situations, that can help you to achieve your goal. But even in this case, you will have to do some hard work yourself.
Just wonder- if magic was real would it be called magic .....or is it the other way around......? .
Just wondering.
Just wondering.