Is love dangerous.

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How can man live without love? We can only exist, and existence without love is control, confusion, and pain - and that is what most of us are creating. We organize for existence and we accept conflict as inevitable because our existence is a ceaseless demand for power. Surely, when we love, organization has its own place, its right place; but without love, organization becomes a nightmare, merely mechanical and efficient, like the army; but as modern society is based on mere efficiency, we have to have armies - and the purpose of an army is to create war. Even in so-called peace, the more intellectually efficient we are, the more ruthless, the more brutal, the more callous we become. That is why there is confusion in the world, why bureaucracy is more and more powerful, why more and more governments are becoming totalitarian. We submit to all this as being inevitable because we live in our brains and not in our hearts, and therefore love does not exist. Love is the most dangerous and uncertain element in life; and because we do not want to be uncertain, because we do not want to be in danger, we live in the mind. A man who loves is dangerous, and we do not want to live dangerously; we want to live efficiently, we want to live merely in the framework of organization because we think organizations are going to bring order and peace in the world. Organizations have never brought order and peace. Only love, only goodwill, only mercy can bring order and peace, ultimately and therefore now
 

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We can only exist, and existence without love is control, confusion, and pain - and that is what most of us are creating.

I cannot agree with you on this point, China. I really do not understand how you can put such words as "Control" and "Confusion" on one level. Where there is control - there is hardly ever any confusion. Confusion arises from lack of control and lack of coordination. Is that not so?
 

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China, you babble on. Just like a brook. Now it's love. Go out and find it. Just don't take any wooden nickels!
 

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Vereya : "Conrol" creates confusion.Control implies a lack of understanding ,if there was understanding there would be no need to "control" there would be a loving relationship.Look at the parents who control their children; do they understand them ,do they love them ?Obviously there is a difference between protecting and controling".Protection " comes from love /heart and where a "control" comes from a brain which in most cases is very contradictory and unstable.
 
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Vereya : "Conrol" creates confusion.Control implies a lack of understanding ,if there was understanding there would be no need to "control" there would be a loving relationship.Look at the parents who control their children; do they understand them ,do they love them ?Obviously there is a difference between protecting and controling".Protection " comes from love /heart and where a "control" comes from a brain which in most cases is very contradictory and unstable.

I would say quite differently. Control implies understanding in the first place. Because you cannot control something you do not understand, you can only think that you control something. You can only control yourself when you actually know what you are doing, what you are doing that for and what is the best way to do it. In this case, no confusion arises. But this is only possible when your brain really works, when you analyze what you see and make the right conclusions.
And I would say it refers to love, as well. Blind love is often a very dangerous thing, indeed. Both for yourself and for the person you love.
 

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Hi vereya,Today is the first time that I can answer your letter.WE are having problem with the internet here in china since the end of decembre /05 The earthquake south of China destroyed some underwater internet cables .I could read letters posted in the forum but could not answer them. Today I have a chance ,I don;t know for how lo
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You can only control yourself when you actually know what you are doing, what you are doing that for and what is the best way to do it.

China:What am I suposse to control ,and why?
 

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What am I suposse to control ,and why?
Talking of love, you should control yourself. You can fall in love practically with any person, but the fact that you are in love with someone does not necessarily mean that it is the person for you, and that you will be happy together. Or, in another case, control your attitude and your actions towards that person, in order make things work out for the two of you. That is what I think.
 

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Vereya

I think you are confusing semantics.

The word "love" can mean love for others as well as the state of being "in love" with a special or significant person - to marry - to raise a family with - to have as a lifelong partner.

I love many people - so do you - but we are not in love with all of them - we simply have love in our hearts for them and the way they fit into our own lives and thoughts and bring us happiness or satisfaction.

To be free to love many without restriction is a reaction with control because the more people we love and respect, the more we have understanding and control with that particular group of people.

Control does not mean chains and mind-bend .... it means we are both secure in our knowledge of each other..... and on a large scale government/the people.

I can't speak for China but that is how I interpret what he is trying to say....even through broken cables, tsunamis and earthquakes...

China - be safe please!
 

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Love is the whispering spirit of the energy of life....either you hear it or you don't.
 

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Vereya I am controling my attitude as to not to respond to your letter in a "comical" way.Is that what you mean ?
 
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You want love? Hire a good investigator. Check Mr. or Ms. Special out well. We don't live in Kansas anymore and the seas are full of panfish and predators. You deserve the best but you won't get it unless you do the due diligence required today.
KInd of pours water on the flames. Oh, well.