Is it necessary for cops to use lethal force against a guy with a knife?

[SLM]

25 feet huh? lol Quarter of a cent ...... ipede.

That's a lot of shoes.

Also lots of socks.

Anyway, I spose it would make a diff if the cop was packing a shotgun or a handgun. I mean a load of 00 could take a leg off but not necessarily kill a guy and it would sure as hell stop him.

Basically if the police are drawing on you and telling you to drop your weapon, raise your hands and not make any sudden movements, it would be wise to follow those instructions.

Even though there were barriers to him being able to attack them from 25 feet (turn to go down the steps, out the door, turn again, etc) just making a movement that's suspicious (and let's face it, anything not really slow mo and explicitly as instructed is probably going to come off as suspicious) is enough to get you killed. I mean, isn't that essentially how people commit "suicide by cop"?

 

[L Gilbert]

All those Officers, guy on the bus going no where fast. Why use a gun when a batons were available. Did any other officers at the bus have Tasers?
Exit off a bus is limited. Space is constricted. Ever see 2 people get on at the same small door. Nope.

Or pepperspray and a taser if they don't want proximity?

 

[Goober]

Or pepperspray and a taser if they don't want proximity?

More often we see these situations where a gun was used. Give the Officers the proper equipment needed to prevent this situations.
A Taser does not always work, same with pepper spray, but the gun should normally be the last consideration.

 

[Angstrom]

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.......

 

[L Gilbert]

More often we see these situations where a gun was used. Give the Officers the proper equipment needed to prevent this situations.
A Taser does not always work, same with pepper spray, but the gun should normally be the last consideration.

I wonder if they ever tried both pepperspray and taser.

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.......

wow What sage advice Dr. Jones Jr.

 

[Goober]

I wonder if they ever tried both pepperspray and taser.

wow What sage advice Dr. Jones Jr.

Problem with pepper spray is it has to hit the face / eyes. Also some people have a high tolerance / resistance to pepper spray, rare but there are cases.

Same with an addict high on certain drugs. They can take 6 - 8 officers on in a fight and still lay out a ton of injuries on the officers.

 

[L Gilbert]

Problem with pepper spray is it has to hit the face / eyes. Also some people have a high tolerance / resistance to pepper spray, rare but there are cases.

Same with an addict high on certain drugs. They can take 6 - 8 officers on in a fight and still lay out a ton of injuries on the officers.

Uhuh, I know, but who could handle both taser juice and pepper juice? Really freakin few I'd bet.

 

[Goober]

Uhuh, I know, but who could handle both taser juice and pepper juice? Really freakin few I'd bet.

I agree and throw in some batons to top it off.
It appears the Officer acted to quickly. I say appears as we do not have all the information.
Reason why he shot is not clear- 3 shots then followed by 6 more If I recall- The guy was on the bus alone.

Video has been enhanced and cleaned up- 1st video- 00.41
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...g-of-sammy-yatim-as-top-cop-promises-answers/

 

[Christianna]

They tased him after he was dead, just for good measure.

 

[L Gilbert]

Death for disobedience. Pretty sad.

 

[spaminator]

They tased him after he was dead, just for good measure.

if someone has a heart attack, can tasering restart the heart?

 

[JLM]

if someone has a heart attack, can tasering restart the heart?

Well, it is shock treatment! -

 

[Goober]

if someone has a heart attack, can tasering restart the heart?

Can't remember the movie where these guys strip a lamp cable to try and restart a cats heart. That was a funny movie.

 

[Durry]

Death for disobedience. Pretty sad.

Some people just don't listen.!!
It's their choice!!

 

[lone wolf]

Some people just don't listen.!!
It's their choice!!

Is that experience talking?

 

[Goober]

Some people just don't listen.!!
It's their choice!!

You are a real piece of work.

 

[karrie]

In a police state, by all means, people are shot when they don't obey orders.

Thank god, my country, is NOT a police state.

 

[Goober]

In a police state, by all means, people are shot when they don't obey orders.

Thank god, my country, is NOT a police state.

People like Durry are the loudest to scream if their rights are violated.
A young man is dead, why, he did not appear to be a threat. Answers why this man is dead are required.
No BS. Just answers.

 

[Sparrow]

Some police instructors have commented that the physical and educational criteria has been lowered for admittance to police academy. Something has changed drastically in their behavior and mannerisms.

 

[karrie]

Some police instructors have commented that the physical and educational criteria has been lowered for admittance to police academy. Something has changed drastically in their behavior and mannerisms.

Part of what's changed is that they seem to have switched gears from 'keeping the peace', to 'ruling the inmates'. It's no longer a protector mentality, it's a 'boss' mentality.