Iraq (US Crime)Updates &Breaking news

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Gunmen open fire on minibus north of Baghdad, killing eight people, police say. -


bet the Iraqis are mighty happy with their newfound "freedom" and nation stability.... :roll: NOT>

Wondering why those war happy/hungry americans have not volunteered to go over there .....as after all, it might be some time before the US can get away with another invasion of choice. ( all the dirt /horror from this one has to be expulsed first.)
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
Four Aid workers abducted in Iraq

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/27/canadians-iraq051127.html

1 Brit.
1 American
2 Canadians.


( weren't Canadians warned not to go there??? What is with these religious types??? )
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My God, OB, they were going there to try and help the people!!

You know, to live up to those Christian principles they espouse.

These people deserve admiration and respect, not the back of your hand.
 

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Colpy said:
Ocean Breeze said:
Four Aid workers abducted in Iraq

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/27/canadians-iraq051127.html

1 Brit.
1 American
2 Canadians.


( weren't Canadians warned not to go there??? What is with these religious types??? )
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My God, OB, they were going there to try and help the people!!

You know, to live up to those Christian principles they espouse.

These people deserve admiration and respect, not the back of your hand.

discretion/ common sense is the better part of valour.

Why bother warning people if the area is unsafe to go into......if they won't listen anyhow. ( whether they are of a "religious" group or not )

Let's have some rational/reasonable thinking here. It is horrific when something like this happens......and it must be prevented at all costs.......
 

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I read nothing in that report they were religious types. Where did you get that from?

Well they have mentioned it on TV here. Here is a link:
Click this link

A teaser:

The aid group whose four members were abducted at gunpoint in Baghdad on Saturday blames U.S. and British aggression in Iraq for the hostage-taking.

In a statement released Tuesday, Christian Peacemakers Teams said it was outraged that the four pacifists, including a pair of Canadians, are now suffering for a war they didn't create. [/teaser]

They were only trying to help and whether they are a religious group or not, it is a horrible thing to have happened. Hopefully they can get out or be rescued safely.

I also believe as foolish as I think it is for them to go to Iraq at this time of Chaos, they knew the risks but wanted to help, so they went to help and unfortunatly they get kidnapped. Very sad.
 

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The White House is admitting that Iraq is likely to face violence for years to come. OK, so where is their apology to Iraq?

Let’s understand this…the White House invaded Iraq on the premise that they had weapons and posed a threat to us. The White House lied. They removed Saddam from his position based on that threat. The threat turned out to be wrong. Where was the apology for falsely accusing Saddam?

Now that the White House and the media have successfully revised history so that the original reason for invading Iraq is no longer acknowledged, we realize that as a result of their “liberation” of the Iraqi people they have destabilized Iraq which will now to be a violent place for years (according to the White House). OK…so where is their apology?

Am I wrong here? Am I stupid for believing that a nation that conducts itself in a way that results in creating a dangerous and deadly environment for another nation should at the very least apologize for doing so? Am I wrong in saying that the people who made the decision to do such a thing should be removed from office for their incompetence? They have proven that they are not responsible enough to control a military. Am I wrong for saying that the people who decided to do such a thing and lied in order to do it should be charged with crimes against humanity?

But at the end of the day is an apology really to much to expect from the people who created the conditions that have led to all of this violence? Think about it! – Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org


apologize??? The USRegime APOLOGIZE??? A snowball's chance in "hell".

this whole Iraq mess has been rewritten so many times .....that one is hard pressed to understand the path it really took. .....and bush has the stupidity to accuse others of rewriting history. This is exactly what he has done all along the way... starting with the first lie.......and followed by the ensuing lies.

Historians ( proper/ligit ones) will have "fun" figuring out this one..
 

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Bush has 'plan to end war


A teaser:

Washington - The White House, in its most detailed public plan yet for success in Iraq, said on Wednesday it expected to reduce US forces there in 2006 but warned the country would face violence "for many years to come".

"No war has ever been won on a timetable and neither will this one," US President George W Bush's national security council said in a policy paper entitled National Strategy for Victory in Iraq, dated November 2005. [/teaser]

Did anyone watch this speech? I did and it was nothing special. He does mention 9/11 and Osama and still tries to subtle way that Iraq was involved in 9/11. He yapped a lot about terrorism. Basically old news with a fresh spin.

Here is another article.

A teaser:

WASHINGTON, D.C.--President Bush’s speech this morning at the Naval Academy is a reflection of his stubborn, narrow-vision approach to governing. More and more, what he says is devoid of reality. To listen to Bush is to enter a dreamworld.

Faced with incontrovertible facts of increasing costs ($6 billion a month), soldier deaths day after day(2,100), growing disenchantment in Congress (The Senate is demanding periodic reports on how the war is faring), the failure of the Iraqi security forces to protect the country,all signs of a coming defeat, he keeps on keeping on with pledges of total victory. He won’t set "artificial deadlines" for withdrawal. "No war has ever been won on a timetable - and neither will this one," the National Strategy for Victory in Iraq says. [/teaser]

Bushie has no concept of reality.
 

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http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/113005.html

the bush "victory" plan for Iraq is bordering on genocide.

........to what lengths is this crazed. stubborn man prepared to go so he can claim a "victory".......in a fecking invasion the he started??

will someone get this lunatic out of the whitehouse...before he does some world wide destruction. Or is it that the fanatic prone in the US cannot identify lunacy. (psychosis ??) when they see it???

Each maniac in history had a similar hold on his population......so history repeats......with a "religious" fervor/pitch.
 

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I saw Rumsfeld on CNN yesterday denying this is even happening and his line was he had no info that this was taking place :evil: What a fecking joke and guys like Uncle Percy and Nascar think Bush is the second coming of christ :roll:
 

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I saw Rumsfeld on CNN yesterday denying this is even happening and his line was he had no info that this was taking place :evil: What a fecking joke and guys like Uncle Percy and Nascar think Bush is the second coming of christ :roll:

yep.....and that is the problem with "hero worship" The blokes take on a life bigger than reality. Heck.......Rumsey, Cheney, and bush are the "evil trinity " ........and there is no point in listening to anything their lying mouths say. They would not know the truth if it hit them in the patoot.
 

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U.S. Is Said to Pay to Plant Articles in Iraq Papers

By JEFF GERTH and SCOTT SHANE
Published: December 1, 2005
WASHINGTON, Nov. 30 - Titled "The Sands Are Blowing Toward a Democratic Iraq," an article written this week for publication in the Iraqi press was scornful of outsiders' pessimism about the country's future.

"Western press and frequently those self-styled 'objective' observers of Iraq are often critics of how we, the people of Iraq, are proceeding down the path in determining what is best for our nation," the article began. Quoting the Prophet Muhammad, it pleaded for unity and nonviolence.

Forum: The Transition in Iraq
But far from being the heartfelt opinion of an Iraqi writer, as its language implied, the article was prepared by the United States military as part of a multimillion-dollar covert campaign to plant paid propaganda in the Iraqi news media and pay friendly Iraqi journalists monthly stipends, military contractors and officials said.

The article was one of several in a storyboard, the military's term for a list of articles, that was delivered Tuesday to the Lincoln Group, a Washington-based public relations firm paid by the Pentagon, documents from the Pentagon show. The contractor's job is to translate the articles into Arabic and submit them to Iraqi newspapers or advertising agencies without revealing the Pentagon's role. Documents show that the intended target of the article on a democratic Iraq was Azzaman, a leading independent newspaper, but it is not known whether it was published there or anywhere else.

Even as the State Department and the United States Agency for International Development pay contractors millions of dollars to help train journalists and promote a professional and independent Iraqi media, the Pentagon is paying millions more to the Lincoln Group for work that appears to violate fundamental principles of Western journalism.

In addition to paying newspapers to print government propaganda, Lincoln has paid about a dozen Iraqi journalists each several hundred dollars a month, a person who had been told of the transactions said. Those journalists were chosen because their past coverage had not been antagonistic to the United States, said the person, who is being granted anonymity because of fears for the safety of those involved. In addition, the military storyboards have in some cases copied verbatim text from copyrighted publications and passed it on to be printed in the Iraqi press without attribution, documents and interviews indicated.

In many cases, the material prepared by the military was given to advertising agencies for placement, and at least some of the material ran with an advertising label. But the American authorship and financing were not revealed.

Military spokesmen in Washington and Baghdad said Wednesday that they had no information on the contract. In an interview from Baghdad on Nov. 18, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, a military spokesman, said the Pentagon's contract with the Lincoln Group was an attempt to "try to get stories out to publications that normally don't have access to those kind of stories." The military's top commanders, including Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, did not know about the Lincoln Group contract until Wednesday, when it was first described by The Los Angeles Times, said a senior military official who was not authorized to speak publicly.

Pentagon officials said General Pace and other top officials were disturbed by the reported details of the propaganda campaign and demanded explanations from senior officers in Iraq, the official said.

When asked about the article Wednesday night on the ABC News program "Nightline," General Pace said, "I would be concerned about anything that would be detrimental to the proper growth of democracy."

Others seemed to share the sentiment. "I think it's absolutely wrong for the government to do this," said Patrick Butler, vice president of the International Center for Journalists in Washington, which conducts ethics training for journalists from countries without a history of independent news media. "Ethically, it's indefensible."

Mr. Butler, who spoke from a conference in Wisconsin with Arab journalists, said the American government paid for many programs that taught foreign journalists not to accept payments from interested parties to write articles and not to print government propaganda disguised as news.

"You show the world you're not living by the principles you profess to believe in, and you lose all credibility," he said
The Government Accountability Office found this year that the Bush administration had violated the law by producing pseudo news reports that were later used on American television stations with no indication that they had been prepared by the government. But no law prohibits the use of such covert propaganda abroad.

Skip to next paragraph



Forum: The Transition in Iraq
The Lincoln contract with the American-led coalition forces in Iraq has rankled some military and civilian officials and contractors. Some of them described the program to The New York Times in recent months and provided examples of the military's storyboards.

The Lincoln Group, whose principals include some businessmen and former military officials, was hired last year after military officials concluded that the United States was failing to win over Muslim public opinion. In Iraq, the effort is seen by some American military commanders as a crucial step toward defeating the Sunni-led insurgency.

Citing a "fundamental problem of credibility" and foreign opposition to American policies, a Pentagon advisory panel last year called for the government to reinvent and expand its information programs.

"Government alone cannot today communicate effectively and credibly," said the report by the task force on strategic communication of the Defense Science Board. The group recommended turning more often for help to the private sector, which it said had "a built-in agility, credibility and even deniability."

The Pentagon's first public relations contract with Lincoln was awarded in 2004 for about $5 million with the stated purpose of accurately informing the Iraqi people of American goals and gaining their support. But while meant to provide reliable information, the effort was also intended to use deceptive techniques, like payments to sympathetic "temporary spokespersons" who would not necessarily be identified as working for the coalition, according to a contract document and a military official.

In addition, the document called for the development of "alternate or diverting messages which divert media and public attention" to "deal instantly with the bad news of the day."

Laurie Adler, a spokeswoman for the Lincoln Group, said the terms of the contract did not permit her to discuss it and referred a reporter to the Pentagon. But others defended the practice.

"I'm not surprised this goes on," said Michael Rubin, who worked in Iraq for the Coalition Provisional Authority in 2003 and 2004. "Informational operations are a part of any military campaign," he added. "Especially in an atmosphere where terrorists and insurgents - replete with oil boom cash - do the same. We need an even playing field, but cannot fight with both hands tied behind our backs."

Two dozen recent storyboards prepared by the military for Lincoln and reviewed by The New York Times had a variety of good-news themes addressing the economy, security, the insurgency and Iraq's political future. Some were written to resemble news articles. Others took the form of opinion pieces or public service announcements.

One article about Iraq's oil industry opened with three paragraphs taken verbatim, and without attribution, from a recent report in Al Hayat, a London-based Arabic newspaper. But the military version took out a quotation from an oil ministry spokesman that was critical of American reconstruction efforts. It substituted a more positive message, also attributed to the spokesman, though not as a direct quotation.

The editor of Al Sabah, a major Iraqi newspaper that has been the target of many of the military's articles, said Wednesday in an interview that he had no idea that the American military was supplying such material and did not know if his newspaper had printed any of it, whether labeled as advertising or not.

The editor, Muhammad Abdul Jabbar, 57, said Al Sabah, which he said received financial support from the Iraqi government but was editorially independent, accepted advertisements from virtually any source if they were not inflammatory. He said any such material would be labeled as advertising but would not necessarily identify the sponsor. Sometimes, he said, the paper got the text from an advertising agency and did not know its origins.

Asked what he thought of the Pentagon program's effectiveness in influencing Iraqi public opinion, Mr. Jabbar said, "I would spend the money a better way."

The Lincoln Group, which was incorporated in 2004, has won another government information contract. Last June, the Special Operations Command in Tampa awarded Lincoln and two other companies a multimillion-dollar contract to support psychological operations. The planned products, contract documents show, include three- to five- minute news programs.

Asked whether the information and news products would identify the American sponsorship, a media relations officer with the special operations command replied, in an e-mail message last summer, that "the product may or may not carry 'made in the U.S.' signature" but they would be identified as American in origin, "if asked.
Nothing but honesty from the US goverment on the Iraq front :evil:
 

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mrmom2 said:
U.S. Is Said to Pay to Plant Articles in Iraq Papers

By JEFF GERTH and SCOTT SHANE
Published: December 1, 2005
WASHINGTON, Nov. 30 - Titled "The Sands Are Blowing Toward a Democratic Iraq," an article written this week for publication in the Iraqi press was scornful of outsiders' pessimism about the country's future.

"Western press and frequently those self-styled 'objective' observers of Iraq are often critics of how we, the people of Iraq, are proceeding down the path in determining what is best for our nation," the article began. Quoting the Prophet Muhammad, it pleaded for unity and nonviolence.

Forum: The Transition in Iraq
But far from being the heartfelt opinion of an Iraqi writer, as its language implied, the article was prepared by the United States military as part of a multimillion-dollar covert campaign to plant paid propaganda in the Iraqi news media and pay friendly Iraqi journalists monthly stipends, military contractors and officials said.

The article was one of several in a storyboard, the military's term for a list of articles, that was delivered Tuesday to the Lincoln Group, a Washington-based public relations firm paid by the Pentagon, documents from the Pentagon show. The contractor's job is to translate the articles into Arabic and submit them to Iraqi newspapers or advertising agencies without revealing the Pentagon's role. Documents show that the intended target of the article on a democratic Iraq was Azzaman, a leading independent newspaper, but it is not known whether it was published there or anywhere else.

Even as the State Department and the United States Agency for International Development pay contractors millions of dollars to help train journalists and promote a professional and independent Iraqi media, the Pentagon is paying millions more to the Lincoln Group for work that appears to violate fundamental principles of Western journalism.

In addition to paying newspapers to print government propaganda, Lincoln has paid about a dozen Iraqi journalists each several hundred dollars a month, a person who had been told of the transactions said. Those journalists were chosen because their past coverage had not been antagonistic to the United States, said the person, who is being granted anonymity because of fears for the safety of those involved. In addition, the military storyboards have in some cases copied verbatim text from copyrighted publications and passed it on to be printed in the Iraqi press without attribution, documents and interviews indicated.

In many cases, the material prepared by the military was given to advertising agencies for placement, and at least some of the material ran with an advertising label. But the American authorship and financing were not revealed.

Military spokesmen in Washington and Baghdad said Wednesday that they had no information on the contract. In an interview from Baghdad on Nov. 18, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, a military spokesman, said the Pentagon's contract with the Lincoln Group was an attempt to "try to get stories out to publications that normally don't have access to those kind of stories." The military's top commanders, including Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, did not know about the Lincoln Group contract until Wednesday, when it was first described by The Los Angeles Times, said a senior military official who was not authorized to speak publicly.

Pentagon officials said General Pace and other top officials were disturbed by the reported details of the propaganda campaign and demanded explanations from senior officers in Iraq, the official said.

When asked about the article Wednesday night on the ABC News program "Nightline," General Pace said, "I would be concerned about anything that would be detrimental to the proper growth of democracy."

Others seemed to share the sentiment. "I think it's absolutely wrong for the government to do this," said Patrick Butler, vice president of the International Center for Journalists in Washington, which conducts ethics training for journalists from countries without a history of independent news media. "Ethically, it's indefensible."

Mr. Butler, who spoke from a conference in Wisconsin with Arab journalists, said the American government paid for many programs that taught foreign journalists not to accept payments from interested parties to write articles and not to print government propaganda disguised as news.

"You show the world you're not living by the principles you profess to believe in, and you lose all credibility," he said
The Government Accountability Office found this year that the Bush administration had violated the law by producing pseudo news reports that were later used on American television stations with no indication that they had been prepared by the government. But no law prohibits the use of such covert propaganda abroad.

Skip to next paragraph



Forum: The Transition in Iraq
The Lincoln contract with the American-led coalition forces in Iraq has rankled some military and civilian officials and contractors. Some of them described the program to The New York Times in recent months and provided examples of the military's storyboards.

The Lincoln Group, whose principals include some businessmen and former military officials, was hired last year after military officials concluded that the United States was failing to win over Muslim public opinion. In Iraq, the effort is seen by some American military commanders as a crucial step toward defeating the Sunni-led insurgency.

Citing a "fundamental problem of credibility" and foreign opposition to American policies, a Pentagon advisory panel last year called for the government to reinvent and expand its information programs.

"Government alone cannot today communicate effectively and credibly," said the report by the task force on strategic communication of the Defense Science Board. The group recommended turning more often for help to the private sector, which it said had "a built-in agility, credibility and even deniability."

The Pentagon's first public relations contract with Lincoln was awarded in 2004 for about $5 million with the stated purpose of accurately informing the Iraqi people of American goals and gaining their support. But while meant to provide reliable information, the effort was also intended to use deceptive techniques, like payments to sympathetic "temporary spokespersons" who would not necessarily be identified as working for the coalition, according to a contract document and a military official.

In addition, the document called for the development of "alternate or diverting messages which divert media and public attention" to "deal instantly with the bad news of the day."

Laurie Adler, a spokeswoman for the Lincoln Group, said the terms of the contract did not permit her to discuss it and referred a reporter to the Pentagon. But others defended the practice.

"I'm not surprised this goes on," said Michael Rubin, who worked in Iraq for the Coalition Provisional Authority in 2003 and 2004. "Informational operations are a part of any military campaign," he added. "Especially in an atmosphere where terrorists and insurgents - replete with oil boom cash - do the same. We need an even playing field, but cannot fight with both hands tied behind our backs."

Two dozen recent storyboards prepared by the military for Lincoln and reviewed by The New York Times had a variety of good-news themes addressing the economy, security, the insurgency and Iraq's political future. Some were written to resemble news articles. Others took the form of opinion pieces or public service announcements.

One article about Iraq's oil industry opened with three paragraphs taken verbatim, and without attribution, from a recent report in Al Hayat, a London-based Arabic newspaper. But the military version took out a quotation from an oil ministry spokesman that was critical of American reconstruction efforts. It substituted a more positive message, also attributed to the spokesman, though not as a direct quotation.

The editor of Al Sabah, a major Iraqi newspaper that has been the target of many of the military's articles, said Wednesday in an interview that he had no idea that the American military was supplying such material and did not know if his newspaper had printed any of it, whether labeled as advertising or not.

The editor, Muhammad Abdul Jabbar, 57, said Al Sabah, which he said received financial support from the Iraqi government but was editorially independent, accepted advertisements from virtually any source if they were not inflammatory. He said any such material would be labeled as advertising but would not necessarily identify the sponsor. Sometimes, he said, the paper got the text from an advertising agency and did not know its origins.

Asked what he thought of the Pentagon program's effectiveness in influencing Iraqi public opinion, Mr. Jabbar said, "I would spend the money a better way."

The Lincoln Group, which was incorporated in 2004, has won another government information contract. Last June, the Special Operations Command in Tampa awarded Lincoln and two other companies a multimillion-dollar contract to support psychological operations. The planned products, contract documents show, include three- to five- minute news programs.

Asked whether the information and news products would identify the American sponsorship, a media relations officer with the special operations command replied, in an e-mail message last summer, that "the product may or may not carry 'made in the U.S.' signature" but they would be identified as American in origin, "if asked.
Nothing but honesty from the US goverment on the Iraq front :evil:


ya know.......there is NOTHING(that the bush rebime would do) that would be a surprise anymore. The dirty tricks that the US has been playing for years are just that much more glaring now. They are getting bolder. ( notice that this is the same "confidence" factor that happens with criminals. ??? They get away with a few crimes and start to get more brazen all the time. It is the first crime that is the hardest to get past....and to start building that tough, /insensitive......"skin". After that ...... just about anything goes. Lying to invade would have been that "first" crime. Once that was achieved........the remaining and continuing lies came easier with each lie. That is how it works........just ask any seasoned criminal. (or watch a well appointed documentary on such topics)

as far as honesty........ they don't have an honest bone in their collective body. They have a bunch of religious zealots and think that this counts for "morals" and "ethics". ( rather perverse, to say the least)
 

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Breaking news :-(

Ten marines have been killed by a roadside bomb in the flashpoint Iraqi city of Falluja, one of the biggest US losses in recent months.

this is coming in via every on line news media now.....

He who STARTED this mess is responsible for each and every death that took place..........regardless of who did the physical killing. This was an invasion of CHOICE .....and not critical nec. ( would not have been even IF Iraq had WMD like the criminal bush said) A totally un nec war.

The US might want to reevaluate its penchant for military action , WARS and other overly aggressive stances.......as it might be ok IN the US (which loves its guns and "action heros" ) but it is no longer ok in the real world. ( being everywhere but the US)

( there are no adjectives ( suitable ) left for the IDIOTS :evil: in Washingon ..........as they have personified "evil" more glaringly than has been done in 50 yrs.)
 

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http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_manuel_v_051201_cabal_of_criminality.htm

criminal cabal... an excellent article. Portrays the process of how this mess evolved.

excerpt :

What the Iraq/Bush war shows the world is how a Cabal of Criminality, numbering less than a few hundred individuals, can bamboozle a nation into a war whose ramifications on our future we cannot yet fully comprehend. The Bush war, the single-greatest blunder in America’s foreign policy history, was spawned by greed-addicted corporatists and treasonous neoconartists, presstitute lackeys and political hacks, placed in charge of US foreign policy and the propaganda acting as corporate media, easily in control of a nitwit, ignorant puppet, possessing his bully pulpit from which to spew the fabrications and manipulations needed to con America. Delusional, incompetent, dangerous and trapped in bubbles of naked grandeur, expecting fictional flowers and candy to flow from Iraqis expected to greet Americans as liberators, the Cabal of Criminality had no qualms sacrificing thousands of American soldiers, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens, for greed, power, profit, wealth and ego.

Through lies, deceit, fear-mongering, immorality, chicanery and criminality a group of a few hundred people led America into war, using the new Pearl Harbor, 9/11, with its plethora of highly charged emotions and fragile psyches, to launch a war they thought would be only the first of many, using Iraq as a beachhead to invade Iran and Syria. Suffocating inside the clouds of 9/11, blinded to reality and captured by delusion, America’s normally stable citizenry was mobilized to seek revenge through war, was conditioned to hate through scapegoats, was silenced by fear and intimidation, was brainwashed to blindly follow through incessant propaganda, jingoism and Madison Avenue style marketing.
 

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Sorry Ocean, this article is a little over the top and melodramatic for my taste. I admit that this does happen over in Iraq, but that this writer is writing too the extremes and excesses.

Burning inside their minds Hell has arisen, echoing the screams of the suffering and the drips of the blood they helped spill, hearing the cries of armless children, weeping widows and fatherless daughters. Hell on Earth, after all, lies with the demons of life lurking inside the crevices deep within the mind.

How about this one:

not knowing, not caring and not understanding that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, that for every Iraqi resistance fighter killed a dozen more take his place.

Does he know that 12 people take this one person's place. How is that statement considered an equal an opposite reaction. Its an opposite reaction but not equal.

Although, there is one certain aspect the author writes that really puts this occupation into perspective:

A guerilla army cannot function without the support of the citizenry, and neither can the success the resistance is having against American forces.

Unfortunately this article looses a lot of credibility with its extremeity and the fact that he is only rehashing old ideas and not introducing any new ones. He's just beating me over the head with facts that most intelligent and concerned individuals already know.