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petros

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Iran has said it will block a corridor planned in the Caucasus under a United States-brokered peace accord between Azerbaijan and Armenia, which has been hailed by other countries in the region as beneficial for achieving lasting peace.
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The terms of the accord, which was unveiled at a signing ceremony at the White House on Friday, include exclusive US development rights to a route through Armenia that would link Azerbaijan to Nakhchivan, an Azerbaijani enclave that borders Baku’s ally Turkiye.
The corridor, which would pass close to the border with Iran, would be named the Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity, or TRIPP, and operate under Armenian law.
View attachment 30461Meanwhile, Turkiye on Saturday said it hoped the planned transit corridor would boost exports of energy and other resources through the South Caucasus.
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Shahidov said Friday’s US-brokered deal constituted a “roadmap” for the final agreement, which appears imminent given there are no unresolved territorial disputes between the two neighbours.
But…but “Ali Akbar” Velayati, a top adviser to Iran’s supreme leader, said on Saturday that Tehran would block the initiative “with or without Russia”, with which Iran has a strategic alliance alongside Armenia.
But…but for its part, Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs cautiously welcomed the deal, saying on Saturday that Moscow supported efforts to promote stability and prosperity in the region, including the Washington meeting.
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Who is going to stop them? Netanyahu who had his ass handed to him and his terrorist buddies?
 

Ron in Regina

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Who is going to stop them?
Who is going to stop whom from doing what? Stop Azerbaijan and Armenia from a peace accord? Someone else doing something else?
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Netanyahu who had his ass handed to him and his terrorist buddies?
What does this have to do with Netanyahu? There’s several links and none of them mention Israel, Israeli’s, Netanyahu “&/or his terrorist buddies”…but maybe you know something not already mentioned? Got a link?
 

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Who is going to stop whom from doing what? Stop Azerbaijan and Armenia from a peace accord? Someone else doing something else?
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What does this have to do with Netanyahu? There’s several links and none of them mention Israel, Israeli’s, Netanyahu “&/or his terrorist buddies”…but maybe you know something not already mentioned? Got a link?
They're building a road and pipeline. How would they stop Iran from blocking it? Air defense that missile whistle right past?

Israel is a sitting duck to Iran.
 

Ron in Regina

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They're building a road and pipeline. How would they stop Iran from blocking it? Air defense that missile whistle right past?

Israel is a sitting duck to Iran.
What does Israel…seriously…have to do with this? Azerbaijan and Armenia and a peace accord I mean? Iran is sticking its nose in, but is Israel or anything Israel-centric at all?
 

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Hezbollah raised the spectre of civil war on Friday with a warning there would be "no life" in Lebanon if the government sought to confront or eliminate the Iran-backed group, & not like that would be the first…
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The government wants to control arms in line with a U.S.-backed plan following Israel's military campaign against Hezbollah which was founded 40 years ago with the backing of Tehran's Revolutionary Guards.
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But the group is resisting pressure to disarm, saying that cannot happen until Israel ends its strikes and occupation of a southern strip of Lebanon that had been a Hezbollah stronghold.

(The conflict between Hezbollah and Israel, which left parts of Lebanon in ruins, erupted in October 2023 when the group opened fire at Israeli positions along the southern border in solidarity with its Palestinian ally Hamas at the start of the Gaza war🤫)

"This is our nation together. We live in dignity together, and we build its sovereignty together - or Lebanon will have no life if you stand on the other side and try to confront us and eliminate us," its leader Naim Qassem said in a televised speech.
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Hezbollah retains strong support among the Shi'ite community in Lebanon, but calls for its disarmament across the rest of society have grown.
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The IDF stated on Saturday that it “struck a facility that hosted dozens of senior officials of the Houthi terrorist regime.” These officials were “responsible for the use of force, the military buildup of the Houthi terror regime, and the advancement of terror actions against Israel, along with other key Senior Houthi officials.”

Houthis vow revenge on Israel for retaliation against the Houthis actions since Oct 7th, 2023…so this changes what?
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Although authority in the Shi’ite Houthi group is concentrated in the hands of religious leader Abdul Malik al-Houthi, the Israeli Air Force attack marked an escalation in efforts to foil the repeated Houthi missile strikes on the Jewish state. Oh, ok.

Israeli government and cabinet meetings will be held in a secret location on Sunday following the elimination of the Houthi prime minister and other senior officials, Ynet reported. The Houthis started attacking the Jewish state in the wake of the Hamas-led invasion and massacre on Oct. 7, 2023.
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(I’m sure they mean Zionists & not Jewish above)
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No Red Lines left, so honour the Green Line from 1948 ‘cuz we said so?
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Wait, where’s Waldo Palestine? Somehow not seeing that on this armistice line from 1948 that some useful idiots confuse with the 1967 borders (after mid-June, or maybe before mid-June, of 1967), but what happened to cause that Green Line again?
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Can’t be having any of those shenanigans going down on land that at anytime in history might have been Muslim controlled and governed, right?1756657736075.jpeg
 

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Just because I can look at the situation with my eyes wide open, doesn’t mean I’m afraid of it, it just means that I can look at all sides and figure out, as best as I can see, the background behind much of this goat rodeo.
Here's the tough part. Cast your eyes forward. Everybody's got a hard-done-by story. The 64,000-dollar question is "What deal will cause them to take it, and respect the right of the other guys to what they get out of it?"

Don't know about Canada, but that's is pretty much uncharted territory for the U.S. We mostly beat 'em half to death, then impose a solution. Or, if that proves impossible (or too difficult), we lose interest and wander off.
 

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Just because I can look at the situation with my eyes wide open, doesn’t mean I’m afraid of it, it just means that I can look at all sides and figure out, as best as I can see, the background behind much of this goat rodeo.
Its kinda weird you keep pointing out that the middle east and north Africa have Muzzies and one tiny blip of E. Europeans who think they're chosen by God to live in the Mid East.

Are you afraid of losing your secular Christian inspired values?
 

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Its kinda weird you keep pointing out that the middle east and north Africa have Muzzies and one tiny blip of E. Europeans who think they're chosen by God to live in the Mid East.
I’m trying to look at the whole conflict as a whole, and you can cherry-pick from that what you wish that fits your own world view.
Are you afraid of losing your secular Christian inspired values?
Nope. Not in what’s left of my lifetime.
Here's the tough part. Cast your eyes forward. Everybody's got a hard-done-by story. The 64,000-dollar question is "What deal will cause them to take it, and respect the right of the other guys to what they get out of it?"
Any deal, in that part of the world, on this situation, is at best temporary. Just buys time to resupply and reload between rounds going round & round, until Israel loses its first war and disappears…& then a new boogeyman can be found, or the whole neighbourhood Will cannibalize itself. That coin hasn’t been flipped yet and won’t be until Israel is defeated thoroughly…once…and is dissolved.
Don't know about Canada, but that's is pretty much uncharted territory for the U.S. We mostly beat 'em half to death, then impose a solution. Or, if that proves impossible (or too difficult), we lose interest and wander off.
We just wring our hands, & have our politicians flip-flop positions depending on their own political self-interests, & claim they’re acting on behalf of the nation as a whole when they’re acting on behalf of their own political parties. I’m sure this is a familiar story.
 

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We just wring our hands, & have our politicians flip-flop positions depending on their own political self-interests, & claim they’re acting on behalf of the nation as a whole when they’re acting on behalf of their own political parties. I’m sure this is a familiar story.
Cheaper in blood and treasure to do it that way.

Seriously. Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Tens of thousands killed, trillions spent, and for what?
 

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I’m trying to look at the whole conflict as a whole, and you can cherry-pick from that what you wish that fits your own world view.

Nope. Not in what’s left of my lifetime.

Any deal, in that part of the world, on this situation, is at best temporary. Just buys time to resupply and reload between rounds going round & round, until Israel loses its first war and disappears…& then a new boogeyman can be found, or the whole neighbourhood Will cannibalize itself. That coin hasn’t been flipped yet and won’t be until Israel is defeated thoroughly…once…and is dissolved.

We just wring our hands, & have our politicians flip-flop positions depending on their own political self-interests, & claim they’re acting on behalf of the nation as a whole when they’re acting on behalf of their own political parties. I’m sure this is a familiar story.
Cherry season is over. It's short but sweet. If youre looking at the big picture and what's in the future, look to what is happening in China right now.

Pooh and all the best freaks are hanging out in the The 100 Acre Wood deciding what to do about the situations in Ukraine and Palestine and Trump's war on BRICS.


Pooh, Putin, Khoemeni, Modi Erdogan aren't happy with Israel.

BTW Israel lost the 12 Day War.

How do you like them in season apples?
 
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Let’s see…in connecting the dots…Lebanon and Syria due to the Iranian backed Hezbollah that started lobbing missiles and rockets into Israel about, oh, October 8th 2023.

Yemen due to the Iranian backed Houthis, that started lobbing missiles at Israel and attacking Israeli shipping about, oh, October 19th, 2023.

Iran due to the ongoing proxy war from Iran against Israel for the four plus decades, and Iran's current government does not recognize Israel's legitimacy as a state and has called for its destruction, and for some reason, probably unjustified and definitely illegitimate on Israel’s part it sees these threats for its destruction as threats for it’s destruction.
BTW Israel lost the 12 Day War.

How do you like them in season apples?
Yeah, not so much. If it actually lost, it would already be gone, an a “Palestinian” state may or May not actually exist from the river to the sea, etc…unless Syria and Lebanon and Jordan and Egypt just slide in and divide that ground up amongst themselves…sort of like history being the best predictor of future events like what happened (& didn’t happen) in 1948.

All parties are claiming victory in the ‘12-day war’, which ended on 25 June. United States President Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Iranian leadership have all made claims, in their widely different idioms, that they won.🤔The strategic outcome of the war is likely to prove inconclusive, bringing neither peace nor an end to military action. It may instead, as previous conflicts have done, simply mark a new phase in the institutional hostility between Iran and Israel…so that “round” of the conflict is over, but that war isn’t over, so neither side lost or won what isn’t finished yet.
 

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Let’s see…in connecting the dots…Lebanon and Syria due to the Iranian backed Hezbollah that started lobbing missiles and rockets into Israel about, oh, October 8th 2023.

Yemen due to the Houthis, that started lobbing missiles at Israel and attacking Israeli shipping about, oh, October 19th, 2023.

Iran due to the ongoing proxy war from Iran against Israel for the four plus decades, and Iran's current government does not recognize Israel's legitimacy as a state and has called for its destruction, and for some reason, probably unjustified and definitely illegitimate on Israel’s part it sees these threats for its destruction as threats for it’s destruction.

Yeah, not so much. If it actually lost, it would already be gone, an a “Palestinian” state may or May not actually exist from the river to the sea, etc…unless Syria and Lebanon and Jordan and Egypt just slide in and divide that ground up amongst themselves…sort of like history being the best predictor of future events

All parties are claiming victory in the ‘12-day war’, which ended on 25 June. United States President Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Iranian leadership have all made claims, in their widely different idioms, that they won.🤔The strategic outcome of the war is likely to prove inconclusive, bringing neither peace nor an end to military action. It may instead, as previous conflicts have done, simply mark a new phase in the institutional hostility between Iran and Israel…so that “round” of the conflict is over, but that war isn’t over, so neither side lost or won what isn’t finished yet.
Are Lebanon and Syria occupied? It's bad to attack occupiers or just Israel as occupiers?

Israel lost the 12 day war by running to Trump to beg Iran to stop.

300+ Iranian missiles went whistling past Israeli air defence hitting their highly strategic targets. They walked away with the upper hand. They could have kept going for days.

Iran still has its 2 week bomb making kit.