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petros

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Keep changing the definition of "losing" until you come up with one that's in the same time zone as reality.
How is running out of THAAD , Golden Donut, and Patriots a win while Israeli air bases, navy, ports, missile sites, army bases, power plants, oil refinery and Kirya (IDF, Shin Bet Mossad HQ) got pummeled forcing Israel running to Trump to make Iran stop.
 

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Are Lebanon and Syria occupied?
Let’s hope it’s occupied by Syrians & Lebanese as well as Hezbollah, etc…
It's bad to attack occupiers or just Israel as occupiers?
Please expand, or is this like your neighbours window example thing again?
Israel lost the 12 day war by running to Trump to beg Iran to stop.
Do you “really” think that’s over? Really really? That’s a short chapter in a forty-plus year long book, so far, etc…
300+ Iranian missiles went whistling past Israeli air defence hitting their highly strategic targets. They walked away with the upper hand. They could have kept going for days.
It’ll happen again. Don’t worry. 31 Israelis did die in that chapter of the ongoing ongoing. Glass 1/2 full, etc…
Iran still has its 2 week bomb making kit.
Good for them. How’s their uranium enrichment program going? Heard they might have experienced a bit of a setback there? Perhaps some time was purchased on that front in this chapter to address the Hamas Houthis Hezbollah etc…issue?
 

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Let’s hope it’s occupied by Syrians & Lebanese as well as Hezbollah, etc…

Please expand, or is this like your neighbours window example thing again?

Do you “really” think that’s over? Really really? That’s a short chapter in a forty-plus year long book, so far, etc…

It’ll happen again. Don’t worry. 31 Israelis did die in that chapter of the ongoing ongoing. Glass 1/2 full, etc…

Good for them. How’s their uranium enrichment program going? Heard they might have experienced a bit of a setback there? Perhaps some time was purchased on that front in this chapter to address the Hamas Houthis Hezbollah etc…issue?
Yeah Israel should get out of Lebanon and Syria so Hezbollah and ISIS don't attack occupying Israeli IDF.

It's not over. Far from. Israel is still killing in Gaza and terrorizing the West Bank.
Iran didn't whip out the big guns yet and have China and Russian helping set up defence.

You were hoping for more dead Israelis?

Their uranium enrichment is doing just fine. It wasn't an issue to begin with.


You were lied to again.

 

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Yeah Israel should get out of Lebanon and Syria so Hezbollah and ISIS don't attack occupying Israeli IDF.
So….Waaaaayyy back about…Oct 8th, 2023 or so…an ongoing conflict between the Iranian backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah and Israel began on 8 October 2023, when Hezbollah launched rockets and artillery at Israeli positionsfollowing Hamas' October 7 attacks on Israel, or so the story goes.

How many Israel IDF’er where occupying Syria & Lebanon at that point? Which came first? The Chicken or the Egg? The conflict escalated into a prolonged exchange of bombardments, leading to extensive displacement in Israel and Lebanon. The conflict is part of the broader Middle Eastern crisis that began with Hamas' attack, with the short Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 2024 marking the largest escalation of the Hezbollah–Israel conflict since the 2006 Lebanon War. Something something walkie-talkies and pagers, etc…
Is that what you were talking about here?:
Are Lebanon and Syria occupied? It's bad to attack occupiers or just Israel as occupiers?
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It's not over. Far from. Israel is still killing in Gaza and terrorizing the West Bank.
How’s that “Release all the Holocaustages and lay down your arms Hamas & then we’ll negotiate a cease-fire” thing going? Is that what you’re referring to here, or the ongoing Iran/Israel thing? Maybe the IDF occupation in Syria &/or Lebanon?

Show of hands Hezbollah. Who still thinks attacking Israel Oct 8th right after Hamas attacked it Oct 7th (2023) was still a good idea?
 

petros

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There are no holocaustages in Iran, Syria or Lebanon but Israel occupies both Lebanon and Syria cuz they don't want either of them as Israel.

holocaust holocaust holocaust!!!

What makes you think holocaust or holocaustage changes my non-brainwashed opinion of an ongoing slaughter of women and kids and illegal occupation for the past 58 years?

Why do I HAVE TO BELIEVE ISRAEL IS LEGIT? HOLOCAUST?
 
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There are no holocaustages in Iran, Syria or Lebanon but Israel occupies both Lebanon and Syria cuz they don't want either of them as Israel.
I was still just trying to figure out what you were referring to.

So the Iranian-backed Hezbollah attacks Israel on 10.08.2023 coincidentally the day after Iranian-backed Hamas attacks Israel on 10.07.2023 (just a coincidence they’re both Iranian-backed) who does take holocaustages from Israel…
There are no holocaustages in Iran, Syria or Lebanon but Israel occupies both Lebanon and Syria cuz they don't want either of them as Israel.

holocaust holocaust holocaust!!!
Hmmm…maybe, and I know this might sound crazy, but maybe Israel didn’t want to be attacked by Hezbollah from Syria & Lebanon? Maybe Israel is tired of being attacked by Hezbollah from Lebanon & Syria, & wish to ensure that shit ends, or at least doesn’t get to happen again immediately, but pushes that down further into the future for the next attack against Israel from the Iranian-backed Hezbollah?
What makes you think holocaust or holocaustage changes my non-brainwashed opinion of an ongoing slaughter of women and kids and illegal occupation for the past 58 years?
I’m not trying to change your mind. The only one who can do that is you. I am trying to offer balance as we both have very different opinions, and others that may peruse this thread can weigh & measure what they see, and perhaps it helps them form their own opinions, if they’re not already locked into a track regardless of what they see or hear.
Why do I HAVE TO BELIEVE ISRAEL IS LEGIT? HOLOCAUST?
You can believe anything you wish. So can I as is true of anyone else here.
 
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Why shouldn't Palestinians have allies or a right for them and their allies to defend Palestine? Holocaust?
That’s a really good question, that I can’t really even try to reply to until I get some clarification. Here’s my question so I can take a stab at your question.

Is this one of those situations or questions where you’re using two terms, like Jew & Zionist, interchangeably, even though apparently they’re too very different things by your own definition, until they’re not, when convenient?

When you ask:
Why shouldn't Palestinians have allies or a right for them and their allies to defend Palestine? Holocaust?
Are you using the terms Palestinians & Hamas (and Friends) here interchangeably (?) as in “Hamas” attacked Israel Oct 7th, & Hamas (and Friends) abducted holocaustages from Israel (a handful of them still haven’t been returned yet, & of those a portion might even still be alive), & Israel declared war against Hamas over this attack, etc…

Currently, Israel is at war with “Hamas (and Friends)” and not Palestinians, unless you’re no longer distinguishing between the two terms/groups much like the Hamas run and governed Gaza Health Authority.

So, when you ask:
Why shouldn't Palestinians have allies or a right for them and their allies to defend Palestine? Holocaust?
Do you really mean “Palestinians” or “Hamas” (?) that have chosen to hide amongst and beneath the Palestinians???

If by Palestinians, you mean Hamas, then they do have allies in the Houthis and Hezbollah as non-state actors, and from Iran and Qatar (& by extension depending on the situation and conversation, many others from Russia to UNRWA & many in between).

If by Palestinians you actually mean Palestinians (and happen to not mean Hamas to confuse the situation), they’re going to need every friend they can find once they’re out from under the thumb of the Iranian-backed Hamas (and Friends).

You tell me who you’re actually referring to and what you actually mean when you ask:
Why shouldn't Palestinians have allies or a right for them and their allies to defend Palestine? Holocaust?
…& I’ll take a stab at trying to answer it.