Iranian regime ‘frightens me,’ Harper says

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The Americans and Israelis are fairly certain Iran has no nuclear weapon program:

Mossad 'agrees with US' on Iran nuclear goals
Israel's intelligence service Mossad agrees with US assessments there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb, even though Israeli leaders have talked about Tehran's plans to acquire nuclear weapons, The New York Times reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/w...wed-difficulty-of-assessing-nuclear-data.html
And as I said in the other thread you posted this in, we all know that intelligence agencies are correct all the time, too.
 

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Great commentary regarding the Chinese Viewpoint!:

Commentary: Iran Nuclear Talks Offer Precious Chance to Rebuild Trust
2012-04-13 Xinhua
Web Editor:Zhangjin
by Wang Haiqing

...The whole world would have to pay an even heavier price should the Strait of Hormuz, the route for about a fifth of the world's oil, be closed, as Iran has repeatedly threatened to do. Any extreme move in this regard violates the right of free passage through international waters and is against the common desire of the international community.
Commentary: Iran Nuclear Talks Offer Precious Chance to Rebuild Trust

China's interest is energy only. China's economy depends on middle east oil from Iran and every other oil state in the region. They can't take sides. Their interest is stability and access to oil. Likely they'd intervene militarily to prevent a disruption to their oil supply. An oil crisis would collapse their economy and possibly create social upheaval or revolution.

Speaking of trust... I doubt Iran can trust the 5+1 or UN weapon inspectors. Iran claims they can prove that intel gleaned from UN Inspection reports were to murder Iranian scientists and sabotage Iranian military and industrial facilities...

Iran nuclear talks: Why the trust gap is so great
Part of the reason for Iran's distrust lies in the CIA's infiltration of a UN weapons inspection team in Iraq in the 1990s

The Islamic Republic has been targeted by an escalating covert war, widely attributed to the United States and Israel and their proxies. That war has included the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists, the Stuxnet computer virus, American CIA spy drone flights deep into Iranian airspace, and a host of unexplained explosions and acts of espionage...
Iran nuclear talks: Why the trust gap is so great - CSMonitor.com

Most Americans and Canadians haven't a clue about these overt acts of war. Instead most have a manipulated perception that Iran has an active nuclear weapons program, despite the fact that both Israeli and American intelligence services both report Iran does not have an active nuclear weapon program...
War Propaganda's Triumph: U.S. Public Opinion on Iran

Iran would be completely justified in blocking UN Inspectors. Many Iranians have died as consequence of allowing inspections. Currently most Iranians oppose building nuclear weapons and support their government's peaceful nuclear program. If Israel or the US attacked Iran, I suspect more Iranians would support building nukes...
 

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An Iranian Viewpoint:

Forty-five years ago, the United States sold my country a research reactor as well as weapons-grade uranium as its fuel. Not long afterward, America agreed to help Iran set up the full nuclear fuel cycle along with atomic power plants. The U.S. argument was that nuclear power would provide for the growing needs of our economy and free our remaining oil reserves for export or conversion to petrochemicals.
That rationale has not changed. Still, after the Islamic Revolution in our country in 1979, all understandings with the United States in the nuclear field unraveled. Washington even cut off fuel deliveries to the very facility it supplied. To secure fuel from other sources, Iran was forced to modify the reactor to run on uranium enriched to around 20 percent. The Tehran Research Reactor still operates, supplying isotopes used in the medical treatment of 800,000 of my fellow Iranians every year...
Iran: We do not want nuclear weapons - Tehran Times

A couple of years ago, Canada's medical isotope reactor was out of commission for 15 months creating a global shortage...
Chalk River makes 1st isotopes in 15 months - Technology & Science - CBC News

And as I said in the other thread you posted this in, we all know that intelligence agencies are correct all the time, too.
I understand your sarcasm. But our leaders should act according to the intelligence. These intelligence reports should be a reference for discussion. Instead our leaders and MSM attempt to manipulate us into war.
 

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Iran has acquired the knowledge and technology to create a nuclear bomb within months according to information leaked from a report by the United Nation’s atomic watchdog. A report by the Washington Post on Sunday said Iran appears to have gotten key technical assistance from foreign experts according to the findings of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Iran said to be capable of making nuclear bomb in months - World - CBC News

That was 5 months ago and Iran still hasn't tested a nuke.

Anti-Iranians propagandists (including a few at the IAEA) have been claiming for years that Iran is within months of building nuclear weapons. At what point (after how many years) does it become glaringly obvious that Iran has no active nuclear weapons program?
 

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Iran Holocaust drama is a big hit

By Jon Leyne
BBC News, Tehran




The film tells the story of a Jewish woman saved by an Iranian diplomat

The scene is wartime Paris. Swastikas adorn the Champs Elysees. Jackbooted Nazis are rounding up Jews for the concentration camps, while terrified Parisians look on.
It is a familiar plot for a television blockbuster. And this time the formula has been as popular as ever, drawing in massive audiences week after week.
The only difference is that this is a series made for Iranian state TV, and it has been piling up the ratings in the country whose president once questioned the very existence of the Holocaust.
The fact that Zero Degree Turn has been allowed on TV, shows the official sensitivity over the accusations of anti-Semitism that have followed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's various comments about Israel and the Holocaust.
'Iranian Schindler'
"There's been a menu of demonising Iran to portray it as anti-Jewish, which is not the case at all," argues Iranian commentator and film-maker Nader Talebzadeh.

We sympathise just as much with those innocent Jewish victims of the Nazis, as much as we do with the Palestinian victims of Zionism

Hassan Fathi
TV series writer and director

"This popular television series, which is visually also very attractive, has tackled this issue because of all the propaganda against Iran." The series has gone a step beyond simply acknowledging the Holocaust.
The central character is an Iranian diplomat, who provides false Iranian passports to enable Jews to flee the Nazi-occupied France, a sort of the Iranian Schindler. He even has a love affair with a Jewish woman.
The writer and director of the series, Hassan Fathi, says he used a true story from World War II to show the outside world they have the wrong impression of Iran.
"In those terrible years there were many people who could help the Jews, but they didn't because they were afraid they would be arrested," Mr Fathi explains.
"But some Iranians, when they saw they could save some Jews, they left their fear behind and did so - because of their character and their culture, their beliefs and their traditions," he adds.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran Holocaust drama is a big hit

This interview with an elected Jewish Iranian member of Palriament makes this Canadian connection:
[SIZE=-1]A couple of years ago, it was reported that the Iranian government was going to force Jews to wear a star or marking on their clothes. What was the truth behind this?
Unfortunately, this was fake news published in a Canadian newspaper. I considered this news a big insult to the religious minorities of Iran. I refuted the story vigorously, , to the point that the source of the news and the Canadian government officially apologized to the Iranian government. The fake story was published in a newspaper following a resolution that was being talked about in Parliament on fashion and fabrics – and they twisted it.

Talking to Iran’s Only Jewish Member of Parliament » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

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Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia, a close Allie of the US and Israel and the home of most 9/11 hijackers...

The Arabic school textbooks which show children how to chop off hands and feet under Sharia law


By Leon Watson
23 December 2011
Barbaric textbooks handed out in Saudi Arabian schools teach children how to cut off a thief's hands and feet under Sharia law, it has emerged.
The shocking books, paid for and printed by the Saudi government, also tell teenagers that Jews need to be exterminated and homosexuals should be 'put to death'.
Recent editions were obtained by the Institute for Gulf Affairs in Washington, D.C., which says they should raise fears in the West over the use of jihadist language

The Arabic textbooks which show children how to chop off hands and feet under Sharia law | Mail Online
 
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It's plain I won't be voting for the Conservatives as I don't want a PM who pisses himself at what a non-invading Nation half a world away is doing and since 'the Bomb' is a myth to begin with he is coming from fantasy-land. He might get some bladder control if he bought fighter aircraft that could even fly properly should we ever have to actually defend ourselves rather than buying arms that are solely for Israel's defense.


What "non-invading nation" are you referring to?

Just askin'
 

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I am frightened of bull bison. I've eaten them, but I am still frightened of them.
Frankly, I am not frightened of Iranians.