Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

Ron in Regina

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Since when do Iranians eat corn and soy?
Aren’t corn & soy (& wheat) Halal? Especially American corn & soy? Doesn’t Trump realize America’s pork producers are also gonna vote in the midterms?😳Maybe Iran can take the excess bourbon that Canada isn’t buying?
Trump ⁠on Tuesday said the funds that the U.S. Treasury is releasing will go into escrow under U.S. control and will be used to buy food ⁠and medical supplies exclusively from the United States, including corn, wheat, and soybeans.
Can you imagine being Vance at these meetings over in Switzerland? With the timezone difference, JD can be at the negotiating table while Trump is doing his 3am tweets on Truth Social while punching out that days Micky-D’s lunch from earlier.
 

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At 60% concentration? Don’t they use 3-5% for their nuclear reactors? Anyway, the U.S. Senate voted to limit President Trump’s ability to conduct military operations against Iran without congressional authorization after four Republicans joined with Democrats in a stinging rebuke to Trump a week after he signed a memorandum of understanding with Iran.
Good.
In the spirit of closing the barn door after…the resolution passed by the Senate Tuesday afternoon, in a 50-48 vote, directs the president to remove U.S. armed forces from hostilities against Iran unless explicitly authorized by Congress, other than to defend America, an ally or partner from “imminent attack.”

You have noticed that I’m not exactly a Trump fanboy? If not….well, I’m not. I know it’s subtle but…
I've noticed. I'm in the same boat.
I concur with your assessment of the situation.
It's been ongoing for a a decade or two.
Can I safely assume the above didn’t happen? Anyway, the House passed the same resolution on June 3, in a 215-208 vote, with four Republicans joining Democrats in support. The agreement announced by Trump earlier this month involves lifting the U.S. blockade on Iranian ports, reopening the Strait of Hormuz and setting the stage for extended talks on Iran’s nuclear program, administration officials have said, and it’s going swimmingly.
It wasn't necessary when I've know this for forty some odd years.
Context and Purpose
During the late 1940s and early Cold War, the US sought to secure strategic access in the Middle East to counter potential Soviet expansion, particularly amid concerns over oil resources, regional influence, and long-range bombing capabilities. The US built and operated Dhahran Airfield (in eastern Saudi Arabia, near the Persian Gulf) starting in the mid-1940s.322a3f

WWII origins with Cold War pivot: Originally planned as a staging point for Lend-Lease aid to the Soviet Union and operations against Japan, the base was completed too late for major WWII use. Post-1945, it gained importance for containing Soviet influence. By 1949, it was one of the few airfields in the region capable of supporting US B-29 bombers, serving as a forward position roughly 1,000 miles from the Soviet border.76d2da

Strategic role: It supported US containment strategy by providing a foothold for potential operations, intelligence, and deterrence against Soviet moves into the Gulf or toward key oil fields. This aligned with broader US efforts (e.g., Truman Doctrine, alliances) to prevent Soviet footholds in the region.0c5bce

Agreement details: The US operated it under agreements with Saudi Arabia (initially post-WWII leases), paying rent while Saudi ownership was retained. It was a key early US military presence in the Arabian Peninsula. The pact ended in 1962 under King Saud.254b15

Other Relevant US Facilities
The US had limited permanent major bases in the Middle East proper during most of the Cold War (unlike in Europe or Asia), focusing instead on access, partnerships, and limited facilities to avoid overcommitment while countering Soviet influence:69107c

Incirlik Air Base (Turkey): Established in the early 1950s as part of NATO; primarily oriented northward against the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact but later supported Middle East operations.

Bahrain (Juffair/Naval Support Activity): Longstanding US naval presence (from the 1940s onward), used for Gulf operations.

Other sites included listening posts in Iran or temporary access elsewhere, but nothing as directly matching a "preempt the Soviets" base narrative as Dhahran in the core Arab Gulf region.b9320c

Broader US policy emphasized alliances (e.g., Baghdad Pact/CENTO), aid, and denial strategies (like oil facility sabotage plans if Soviets invaded) over large permanent bases until later decades.5c1771

This fits the "curtail Soviets from doing so first" motive: securing a strategic airfield in a vital oil-rich area before Soviet influence could expand there.

US concerns were heightened by events like the 1946 Iran crisis (Soviet troops in northern Iran) and general containment doctrine.
“The measure that passed both the Senate and House this month is a “concurrent resolution,” which isn’t sent to the president for his veto or signature.
View attachment 34870The view of most legal scholars is that the resolution wouldn’t be binding as a result of a Supreme Court ruling in the 1980s, which found that such “concurrent resolutions” are unconstitutional legislative vetoes, said Brian Finucane, a senior adviser with the U.S. Program at the International Crisis Group.” I wonder what Trump’s Blanche will have to say about this?
Everyone is pissed off over being roped into this mess on behalf off Israel.

Don't shocked if someone steps in to get Israel out of Lebanon. Enough is enough. Greater Israel isn't going to happen.
 

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Aren’t corn & soy (& wheat) Halal? Especially American corn & soy? Doesn’t Trump realize America’s pork producers are also gonna vote in the midterms?😳Maybe Iran can take the excess bourbon that Canada isn’t buying?
What does Halal have to do with it? Is the throat of corn cut gently after a blessing?

Halal is mainly meats.Halal isnt like the Kosher scam we all pay for at the check out on anything and everything.

And again Trump is full of shit.

Iran imports virtually all of its domestic livestock feed corn, making it one of the top 15 corn importers globally. The country relies heavily on Brazil for the vast majority of its supply, with secondary volumes imported from Romania, Turkey, Kazakhstan, and Georgia.

Iran’s wheat sector is heavily regulated, with production typically meeting the majority of the nation's domestic demand.

Iran imports over $1B of soybeans annually, relying primarily on Brazil and Canada(canola sunflower semolina flax) to meet domestic demand for edible vegetable oil and poultry feed. While Iran produces some soy locally—mostly in the Golestan and Mazandaran provinces—it is heavily dependent on international suppliers

International Supply Trends: In the first half of 2026, Iran emerged as one of the largest buyers of Brazilian soybean meal. However, its imports of raw soybeans from Brazil have trended at a five-year low as the country pivots towards processed soy
Can you imagine being Vance at these meetings over in Switzerland? With the timezone difference, JD can be at the negotiating table while Trump is doing his 3am tweets on Truth Social while punching out that days Micky-D’s lunch from earlier.
Imagine being Kushner who is hated by Persian and Arabs. He shouldn't be there same goes for Witkoff, he's a retard to so yeah I wouldn't want be Vance
 
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American pilot rescued from Iran crash saw 'jellyfish' drone swarm: 'Real alien s***'
The pilot told officials he saw 'multiple drones interconnected and moving as one'

Author of the article:Eddie Chau
Published Jun 23, 2026 • Last updated 14 hours ago • 2 minute read

This handout photo provided by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) official website Sepah News on April 5, 2026 reportedly shows the wreckage and remains of a crashed aircraft in central Iran. Iran's Revolutionary Guards said a U.S. aircraft that had been searching for the crew member of a missing U.S. fighter jet had been destroyed, Iranian media reported on April 5.
This photo provided by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) official website Sepah News on April 5, 2026 shows the wreckage of a crashed aircraft in central Iran. Iran's Revolutionary Guards said a U.S. aircraft that had been searching for the crew member of a missing U.S. fighter jet had been destroyed. Photo by SEPAH NEWS /AFP via Getty Images

An American F-15 pilot who was rescued after being shot down in Iran in April said the Iranian drones that swarmed his plane looked like a “jellyfish” formation before he ejected.


On April 3, Iranian military attacked an F-15E Strike Eagle carrying the pilot and a weapons-system officer. The pilot was rescued hours after ejecting while the other crew member evaded capture for more than a day before being recovered by U.S. forces.

In a report published by CNN, the pilot claimed during a debriefing with U.S. intelligence officials that he saw a drone formation that looked like a jellyfish.

‘Interconnected and moving as one’
The pilot told officials he saw “multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs.”

“Real alien s***,” he said, per CNN.

The jellyfish-like manoeuvre suggested a development in Iran’s ability to use drones in large quantities while in battle.

The exact cause of the American F-15 jet to go down is still being investigated, CNN reported. The news outlet’s sources stated it’s possible the jellyfish formation enabled Iran to take down the jet.


CNN said it was not clear if the weapons systems officer also saw the drone formation.

Intelligence officials who debriefed the pilot disagreed on whether he could recall the incident clearly after getting a concussion in the crash, according to CNN.

Iran claims new air defence system
The Khatam al-Anbiya joint military command from Iran said the day of the shoot-down that it had created a new air defence system that was used to target the U.S. fighter jet with three drones and two cruise missiles.

“The enemy should know that we rely on new air-defence systems built by the young, knowledgeable, and proud people of this country, unveiling them one after another in the field,” a military spokesperson said at the time.

After being shot down, American military launched a multi-sourced rescue mission to recover the missing officer, whom officials said only had a handgun to defend himself while in Iran. He was rescued by two military helicopters the same day, CBS News reported.

The outlet reported the CIA had launched a campaign to spread fake information that the airman had already been found and recovered.

Two days later, U.S. President Donald Trump announced that the second airman had been recovered and deemed “safe and sound” and was “just fine” despite sustaining injuries.
 
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Donald Trump has claimed that Americans are “demanding” $80bn to keep funding the war in Iran. Asked by a journalist if Americans support this when “so many are financially struggling”, Mr Trump denied this. “Not only do they support it, they demand it because they won’t allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Iran had informed him there would be no tolls, insurance costs, or charges of any kind for ships looking to pass through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz…for the first 60 days??? Under the MOU, both sides agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz toll-free for at least 60 days.
 

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Donald Trump has claimed that Americans are “demanding” $80bn to keep funding the war in Iran. Asked by a journalist if Americans support this when “so many are financially struggling”, Mr Trump denied this. “Not only do they support it, they demand it because they won’t allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Iran had informed him there would be no tolls, insurance costs, or charges of any kind for ships looking to pass through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz…for the first 60 days??? Under the MOU, both sides agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz toll-free for at least 60 days.
Sounding more and more like Netanyahu everyday.