Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

Ron in Regina

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Bullshit in the purest form from a perfect red bull.
So…this is just a conspiracy and this is all just scripted with paid actors, or these thoughts are beamed into their heads with Jewish Space Lasers? Or…or there’s more than one opinion on this topic?
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(YouTube & Trump’s Truth Social post at 7:23AM Eastern moves markets, raises questions)

Then there’s Iran, claiming these “conversations” never happened, at all, directly or indirectly. 🤔
 

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So…this is just a conspiracy and this is all just scripted with paid actors, or these thoughts are beamed into their heads with Jewish Space Lasers? Or…or there’s more than one opinion on this topic?
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(YouTube & Trump’s Truth Social post at 7:23AM Eastern moves markets, raises questions)

Then there’s Iran, claiming these “conversations” never happened, at all, directly or indirectly. 🤔
Is Iran maybe taking advantage of the TDS so prevalent in the U.S.?? Just askin....
 

Ron in Regina

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Is Iran maybe taking advantage of the TDS so prevalent in the U.S.?? Just askin....
The fog of war. Who knows at this point?

Trump: 'Complete and total resolution of hostilities' discussed.

US president says Witkoff, Kushner spoke to Iranian official, but refused to identify who (or is that whom?).

Top Iranian official calls comments fake news aimed at markets.
Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform that the U.S. and Iran had held "very good and productive" conversations about a "complete and total resolution of hostilities in the Middle East". As a result, he said, he was postponing for five days a plan to hit Iran's energy grid. His announcement (at 7:23AM, or was it 7:24AM?) sent share prices higher and oil prices sharply lower to below $100 a barrel, a sudden reversal to a market swoon caused by his weekend threats and Iran's vows to respond.🤔
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Could be just a coincidence though. An Israeli official and two other sources familiar with the matter said the interlocutor on the Iranian side was Iran's powerful parliament speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf.
Qalibaf said on X that there had been no such talks with the United States, and ridiculed the suggestion as an attempt to rig financial markets. "No negotiations have been held with the U.S., and fakenews is used to manipulate the financial and oil markets and escape the quagmire in which the US and Israel are trapped," he wrote.
 

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Ron in Regina

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They are 2 weeks away from a nuke.
They who?

Traders placed approximately $580 million in bets on oil and equity markets just 15 minutes before a March 2026 announcement by Donald Trump regarding "productive" Iran talks. These trades, involving ~6,200 futures contracts, were perfectly timed for a sharp drop in oil prices, prompting questions about potential insider information.
  • Timing: The trades occurred between 6:49 a.m. and 6:50 a.m. New York time on Monday, ahead of the 7:04 a.m. Truth Social post.
  • Market Impact: The post caused immediate, sharp declines in oil prices and a rise in S&P 500 futures, say Yahoo Finance.
  • Controversy: Iran denied that any such talks occurred, raising suspicions of potential market manipulation, noted Business Today.
  • Scale: The trades involved 6,200 Brent and West Texas Intermediate (WTI) futures contracts.
  • Context: Hedge fund managers described the trade as highly abnormal, given the lack of scheduled economic data that morning.
Around 6,200 Brent and West Texas Intermediate futures contracts changed hands between 6:49 a.m. and 6:50 a.m. New York time, the FT estimated based on Bloomberg data. The trades occurred about 15 minutes before Trump’s 7:04 a.m. post stating there had been "productive conversations" with Tehran to end the war in Iran.
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Market participants pointed out that this incident is among several instances in recent months where sizable trades have taken place shortly before official announcements from the US government.
A market strategist at a US broker raised concerns about the sudden change, questioning the timing. He told the outlet, "who would have been relatively aggressive at selling futures at that point, 15 minutes before Trump’s post." Meanwhile, White House spokesperson Kush Desai dismissed rumours of insider trading.
 
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Ron in Regina

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I thought manipulating the markets was one of the reasons for the "war". The other one of course is to get rid of old ammunition, and test systems under real life conditions.
That's what Ukraine is for.
So he says.
 

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Four wounded after Iranian missile directly hits Bedouin village in southern Israel

Following an 11-hour respite, Iran resumed missile fire at Israel overnight into Tuesday, launching a barrage almost every hour alongside volleys from Hezbollah in Lebanon. A direct Iranian missile hit on a house in a Bedouin village in southern Israel moderately wounded a 40-year-old man and lightly wounded a 26-year-old woman and two infants, medics said, despite the IDF announcing that the barrage had been intercepted.

At this point in time the IDF can't find its ass with both hands as Israel and settlements in occupied West Bank get pummeled.
 

Ron in Regina

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And Bibi is still missing so they say.
He’s done televised stuff in the last couple days, commenting on current things that are happening in the last couple days. I can’t speak for that other dude that sort of looks like Ezra Levant, can’t even remember his name at this point…but Bibi is still around.

Anyway, those talks must be going so swimmingly with Iran that:
But Wait!! There’s more!!!
??? "They gave us a present and the ⁠present arrived today, and it was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office???🤔"It wasn't nuclear, it was oil-and gas-related, and it was a very nice thing they did."

…& you know Iran is “all in” on doing nice things for Trump, I mean Israel, I mean America, I mean bullshit, I mean…I don’t know what I mean here….

Trump, reiterating that he felt the United States had already won the war, indicated that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth was disappointed as how quickly the campaign had gone?
But wait…there’s something something acknowledgement of negotiations?!!!

Iran's negotiating posture has hardened sharply since the war began, with the Revolutionary ‌Guards exerting growing influence over decision-making, and it will demand significant concessions from the United States if mediation efforts lead to serious negotiations, three senior sources in Tehran said.
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In any talks with the U.S., Iran would not only demand an end to the war but concessions that are likely red lines for U.S. President Donald Trump - guarantees against future military action, compensation for wartime losses and formal control of the Strait of Hormuz, the sources said. That sounds like a pretty sweet gift for Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf nations Trump. Could that be what he’s alluding towards? 😳
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Iran would also refuse to negotiate any limitations to its ballistic missile programme, they ⁠said, an issue that had been a red line for Tehran during the talks that were taking place when the U.S. and Israel launched their attack last month.
At least two vessels transiting the Strait of Hormuz have paid Iran for safe passage, Lloyd’s List Intelligence reported on Monday, noting that commercial traffic is increasingly diverting into Iranian territorial waters through what has been dubbed the “Tehran Toll Booth.”

The route runs between Iran’s Qeshm and Larak islands, where the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is understood to be verifying vessel details and, in some cases, collecting fees. One fee is reported to have been $2 million, the report said.
Trump reiterated that the central condition of any agreement would be Iran’s commitment not to develop nuclear weapons…like Obama had negotiated over a decade ago & Trump scraped in his first term? Something like that, but without Obama’s name attached?
According to international media reports, including Bloomberg and Lloyd’s List Intelligence, Iran has begun charging oil tankers for safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz.

Javan estimated that under such a framework regional states would need to pay $50 per barrel to compensate Iran’s losses and contribute to reconstruction efforts.

(Ships belonging to Israel and the United States, it added, would be barred from the strait even under a different flag)
 

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He’s done televised stuff in the last couple days, commenting on current things that are happening in the last couple days. I can’t speak for that other dude that sort of looks like Ezra Levant, can’t even remember his name at this point…but Bibi is still around.
TV is proof? Why isn't he showing up for meetings?
"They gave us a present and the ⁠present arrived today, and it was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office???🤔"It wasn't nuclear, it was oil-and gas-related, and it was a very nice thing they did."

…& you know Iran is “all in” on doing nice things for Trump, I mean Israel, I mean America, I mean bullshit, I mean…I don’t know what I mean here….
A bag of pistachios?
Trump, reiterating that he felt the United States had already won the war, indicated that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth was disappointed as how quickly the campaign had gone?
But wait…there’s something something acknowledgement of negotiations?!!!
How did they win when Iran just brought out the big guns against a failing Israeli air defense?
Iran's negotiating posture has hardened sharply since the war began, with the Revolutionary ‌Guards exerting growing influence over decision-making, and it will demand significant concessions from the United States if mediation efforts lead to serious negotiations, three senior sources in Tehran said.
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In any talks with the U.S., Iran would not only demand an end to the war but concessions that are likely red lines for U.S. President Donald Trump - guarantees against future military action, compensation for wartime losses and formal control of the Strait of Hormuz, the sources said. That sounds like a pretty sweet gift for Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf nations Trump. Could that be what he’s alluding towards? 😳


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Iran would also refuse to negotiate any limitations to its ballistic missile programme, they ⁠said, an issue that had been a red line for Tehran during the talks that were taking place when the U.S. and Israel launched their attack last month.
At least two vessels transiting the Strait of Hormuz have paid Iran for safe passage, Lloyd’s List Intelligence reported on Monday, noting that commercial traffic is increasingly diverting into Iranian territorial waters through what has been dubbed the “Tehran Toll Booth.”

The route runs between Iran’s Qeshm and Larak islands, where the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is understood to be verifying vessel details and, in some cases, collecting fees. One fee is reported to have been $2 million, the report said.
Iran isn't negotiating.
 

Ron in Regina

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Iran isn't negotiating.
Flexing, whatever. They’re doing something. US President Donald Trump sent a peace plan to Iran as he voiced optimism Tuesday at ending nearly a month of warfare, with Tehran announcing that it will let "non-hostile" oil vessels go through the crucial Strait of Hormuz.

Iran defines "non-hostile" oil vessels in the Strait of Hormuz as ships that do not participate in or support acts of aggression against Iran, specifically excluding vessels linked to the US or Israel. These vessels must also comply with Iranian safety regulations, coordinate with Iranian authorities, and are not involved in hostile operations.

Key Aspects of Iran's Definition and Requirements:
  • Excluded Entities: Vessels associated with the United States, Israel, or other countries considered to be supporting aggression against Iran are prohibited.
  • Safety and Compliance: Eligible ships must strictly follow maritime security regulations defined by Iran.
  • Mandatory Coordination: Vessels must coordinate their passage with Iranian authorities to ensure they are recognized as "non-hostile.”
  • Selective Access: Iran has signaled that it will selectively monitor and allow access to neutral or non-aligned vessels.
The restrictions are part of a broader strategy by Iran during increased tensions, aimed at leveraging its control over the maritime chokepoint against its adversaries. Maybe that’s the gift Trump was describing?

The tentative signs of a diplomatic solution came despite new violence, with an Iranian missile causing injuries in Israel which in turn pressed on multiple fronts and vowed to seize control of a strip of southern Lebanon, etc…

Trump, whose pronouncements in recent days have swung wildly from vowing massive attacks on Iran to declaring the nearly month-long war virtually over, said the United States was "in negotiations right now" with Iran -- which has not confirmed any formal talks.

Iran had agreed in 2015 to broad restraints on its contested nuclear program in a deal that Trump ripped up during his first term as he joined Israel in applying pressure to the cleric-run state.

Trump's envoys were negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran just two days before the United States and Israel launched the massive attack on February 28, killing Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on the first day.

Lebanon was pulled into the Middle East war when Hezbollah began firing rockets into Israel on March 2 to avenge the killing of Khamenei.

The reported new proposal would keep in place the Islamic republic which weeks earlier ruthlessly crushed mass protests, killing thousands, despite earlier vows of regime change by Trump and especially Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

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Flexing, whatever. They’re doing something. US President Donald Trump sent a peace plan to Iran as he voiced optimism Tuesday at ending nearly a month of warfare, with Tehran announcing that it will let "non-hostile" oil vessels go through the crucial Strait of Hormuz.

Iran defines "non-hostile" oil vessels in the Strait of Hormuz as ships that do not participate in or support acts of aggression against Iran, specifically excluding vessels linked to the US or Israel. These vessels must also comply with Iranian safety regulations, coordinate with Iranian authorities, and are not involved in hostile operations.

Key Aspects of Iran's Definition and Requirements:
  • Excluded Entities: Vessels associated with the United States, Israel, or other countries considered to be supporting aggression against Iran are prohibited.
  • Safety and Compliance: Eligible ships must strictly follow maritime security regulations defined by Iran.
  • Mandatory Coordination: Vessels must coordinate their passage with Iranian authorities to ensure they are recognized as "non-hostile.”
  • Selective Access: Iran has signaled that it will selectively monitor and allow access to neutral or non-aligned vessels.
The restrictions are part of a broader strategy by Iran during increased tensions, aimed at leveraging its control over the maritime chokepoint against its adversaries. Maybe that’s the gift Trump was describing?

The tentative signs of a diplomatic solution came despite new violence, with an Iranian missile causing injuries in Israel which in turn pressed on multiple fronts and vowed to seize control of a strip of southern Lebanon, etc…

Trump, whose pronouncements in recent days have swung wildly from vowing massive attacks on Iran to declaring the nearly month-long war virtually over, said the United States was "in negotiations right now" with Iran -- which has not confirmed any formal talks.

Iran had agreed in 2015 to broad restraints on its contested nuclear program in a deal that Trump ripped up during his first term as he joined Israel in applying pressure to the cleric-run state.

Trump's envoys were negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran just two days before the United States and Israel launched the massive attack on February 28, killing Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on the first day.

Lebanon was pulled into the Middle East war when Hezbollah began firing rockets into Israel on March 2 to avenge the killing of Khamenei.

The reported new proposal would keep in place the Islamic republic which weeks earlier ruthlessly crushed mass protests, killing thousands, despite earlier vows of regime change by Trump and especially Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
"Friendly ships" have been moving along.