Iran- US-EU- Nukes
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Wow they have enough to make a uranium bomb. That's amazing. run for the hills or at least six blocks.
Mini nukes are being chucked around daily.
I'm going to give you something to think about.
How advanced of a space program do you need to accurately deliver a nuclear weapon of significance without a rocket and the satellite needed for high ground?
Nobody is worried about a nuke being launched by a nation who doesn't have the high ground of space.
Russia recently made sure of that for Israel and the scary pretend nuke campaign is coming to a close and they will makes all the money on data transfer, interweb and cellular from India to Europe as a bonus.
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Like in this latest missile or aireal bomb on a school. The act is already being questioned as it could be a false flag operation. The common propaganda is that it must be Assad because the rebels don't have advanced munitions, NATO and Israel do and Israel is being given credit for several big blasts in and around Damascus. There are several others that fit the damage of advanced munitions being used, so advanced it would be part of the Arrow3 program that uses variants of the shaped charge, small variernts could be drone delivered if stealth is not needed, exact same result as the bomb used in an assassination in 2005. The one that is at the heart of the current trial in the Hague, one that seems to be on hold for the last 18 months. If that bombing cannot be investigated what are the odds that something Israel would be charged with as even making it to the floor? That doesn't mean they and NATO are using their best weapons in a minor civil war or that Russia and China are fully aware of what is going on and both of them have the means to throw a wrench into the works.
Are you sure you even understand that last sentence?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/w...iners-see-threat-to-battle-cry.html?ref=world
As Iran’s new president, Hassan Rouhani, steers the country away from its confrontational posture toward the West, he is inevitably calling into question the bedrock anti-American ideology of the Islamic republic. That is turning the revolution’s leading slogan, “Death to America,” into a political battleground.
“These three words are the blood of our ideology,” said one of those leaving Friday Prayer, Mohammad Jahanbi. He said he had been a political prisoner during the reign of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi and was a veteran of the bloody eight-year war with Iraq. “We must hold on to ‘Death to America’; otherwise, our revolution will be lost.”
But the current government has been calling for reasoned actions rather than slogans. “We can stand against powers with prudence rather than with slogans,” Mr. Rouhani said recently.
Mr. Rouhani’s government has announced that it wants to conduct a public opinion survey on the advisability of its outreach to the United States. But it is unclear if this will happen, analysts say, because it would lay bare the ideological divisions in the Islamic republic.
A similar poll conducted in 2003 showed that 70 percent favored establishing ties with America. There was no follow-up, though, because the pollsters were jailed for several years.
In the Islamic republic, support of “the people” is often cited by all factions. But with the animosity toward the United States, things can get complicated. A majority of the Iranian electorate voted for Mr. Rouhani and his conciliatory international polices, while the revolutionary narrative prescribes that the fight against America is eternal and supported by all Iranians.
As Iran’s new president, Hassan Rouhani, steers the country away from its confrontational posture toward the West, he is inevitably calling into question the bedrock anti-American ideology of the Islamic republic. That is turning the revolution’s leading slogan, “Death to America,” into a political battleground.
“These three words are the blood of our ideology,” said one of those leaving Friday Prayer, Mohammad Jahanbi. He said he had been a political prisoner during the reign of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi and was a veteran of the bloody eight-year war with Iraq. “We must hold on to ‘Death to America’; otherwise, our revolution will be lost.”
But the current government has been calling for reasoned actions rather than slogans. “We can stand against powers with prudence rather than with slogans,” Mr. Rouhani said recently.
Mr. Rouhani’s government has announced that it wants to conduct a public opinion survey on the advisability of its outreach to the United States. But it is unclear if this will happen, analysts say, because it would lay bare the ideological divisions in the Islamic republic.
A similar poll conducted in 2003 showed that 70 percent favored establishing ties with America. There was no follow-up, though, because the pollsters were jailed for several years.
In the Islamic republic, support of “the people” is often cited by all factions. But with the animosity toward the United States, things can get complicated. A majority of the Iranian electorate voted for Mr. Rouhani and his conciliatory international polices, while the revolutionary narrative prescribes that the fight against America is eternal and supported by all Iranians.
They have good reason to be pissed off as does anyone who has ever lost a friend to cocaine.
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What do you suppose this actually means? Remember that Russian rocket that lifted off last year and then fizzled out after the 1st stage. Rather than nuclear weapons what if that is the new deliver system and the 'cargo' is a boatload of S-500 short range missiles <250km that get delivered to a threater that can be anyplace from 500km to 5,000km away and when they arrive they have a full load of fuel. Why would anybody want a nuclear deterrent when you have an offensive/defensive system all in one and the only modification is the distance they are carried before being activated. (S-500 with glider wings to stay aloft for days) The added range of the payload make the overall range that much higher while the main lifting body can avoid adding an extra stage.
Inside the Ring: Russia to test new missile - Washington Times
The RS-26 missile is expected to be deployed with multiple supersonic, maneuvering warheads designed to defeat U.S. missile defenses in Europe, U.S. officials told Inside the Ring.
A House defense aide said the new missile appears to violate the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, based on recent tests and Russian statements that it is designed to thwart U.S. defenses. The treaty bans missiles with ranges of between 310 and 3,400 miles.
“The Russians are advertising this as a system capable of defeating U.S. missile defenses in Europe,” the aide said. “At the same time, the State Department is accepting Russia’s claim that this is an ICBM and doesn’t violate INF. It can’t be both.”
The Air Force National Space and Missile Intelligence Center reported recently that Russia’s June 6 test of an RS-26 was a test-firing of an intermediate-range missile disguised as an intercontinental ballistic missile.
Russian officials have denied that the RS-26 violates the INF Treaty, claiming it has a range greater than the treaty threshold of 3,410 miles.
Read more: Inside the Ring: Russia to test new missile - Washington Times
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Inside the Ring: Russia to test new missile - Washington Times
The RS-26 missile is expected to be deployed with multiple supersonic, maneuvering warheads designed to defeat U.S. missile defenses in Europe, U.S. officials told Inside the Ring.
A House defense aide said the new missile appears to violate the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, based on recent tests and Russian statements that it is designed to thwart U.S. defenses. The treaty bans missiles with ranges of between 310 and 3,400 miles.
“The Russians are advertising this as a system capable of defeating U.S. missile defenses in Europe,” the aide said. “At the same time, the State Department is accepting Russia’s claim that this is an ICBM and doesn’t violate INF. It can’t be both.”
The Air Force National Space and Missile Intelligence Center reported recently that Russia’s June 6 test of an RS-26 was a test-firing of an intermediate-range missile disguised as an intercontinental ballistic missile.
Russian officials have denied that the RS-26 violates the INF Treaty, claiming it has a range greater than the treaty threshold of 3,410 miles.
Read more: Inside the Ring: Russia to test new missile - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Translation, they are closer, they have better weapons and they have a larger support base in people who would help them in a war. You have to love the irony.
Id be a bit more worried about Pakistan and North Korea seeing as they already have them. Pakistan isnt exactly completely stable and tensions are almost always high between them and India.
As I mentioned the deal has not been finalized.
Obama administration cracks down on Iran sanctions violators - The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c443e8-61d9-11e3-bf45-61f69f54fc5f_story.html
What Hagel did not mention was the continued buildup of X-band radar in the area that enhances antimissile defense capabilities against Iran.
The first AN/TPY-2 radar went into a spot atop Mt. Keren in Israel’s Negev Desert, where a discreet U.S. military installation is operated by about 150 U.S. service members and contractors. Tehran is about 1,000 miles to the northeast, but the radar is “so sensitive it can spot a softball tossed in the air from 2,900 miles away,” Time magazine reported in 2012.
Another AN/TPY-2 radar is deployed at Turkey’s Kurecik air force base, which is 240 miles from the Iranian border. It, too, is operated by about 150 U.S. military personnel and contractors.
The US modified some of the key agreements to make it look like the US got more than it actually did, for local consumption so no corrections will ever be made.
Iran will do what Syria just did, fulfill their end of the agreement in a short period of time and without any public complaints and Europe will drop the sanctions because they were never helpful to anybody but the usual suspects in the first place.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...b86240-6394-11e3-af0d-4bb80d704888_story.html
Video: An AP investigation reveals that Robert Levinson was on an unapproved intelligence-gathering mission. By Associated Press, Published: December 12 | Updated: Friday, December 13, 3:33 PM
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration faced intensified pressure Friday to find former CIA contractor Robert Levinson — both from lawmakers and the Levinson family — nearly seven years after he disappeared in Iran during what now has been revealed as an unofficial spy mission.
Levinson’s family urged the government “to step up and take care of one of its own.” Members of Congress said they wanted to know more about the case, which led to three veteran analysts being forced out of the agency and seven others being disciplined
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I agree. The US agreed to Iranian enrichment at substantially greater levels than are required for conventional nuclear power. I think Obama needed an "accomplishment" because of the drubbing he is taking in American opinion.
Imo Iran will be able to complete the nuclear fuel cycle, enrich to just one step away from developing what goes into a warhead, and a series of events will be set in motion that effectively destroys the Nuclear Nonproliferation Agreement. Each new nuclear weapons state means that those who perceive danger from that state will be forced to become nuclear weapons states themselves. Look for Saudi Arabia to become the next candidate.
Didn't Iran announce its intention of building new reactors this last week? It's my understanding that commercial use requires enrichment to about five percent. Medical use requires enrichment to twenty percent. And fission weapons require enrichment to around 90 percent. It's also my understanding that it is not all that difficult to further enrich medical isotopes to weapons grade.