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"strikes by the Israeli's against targets"

Where you see targets, I see people.

Gaza:
1.6 million people.
4,000 people per km2
0-14 years: 44.7% (male 343,988/female 325,856)
Demographics of the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jan 2009
Israel hit U.N. School hit by phosphorus bombs - Beit Lahiya 17-Jan 2009 - YouTube


Jan 2009
Amnesty International team reports from the rubble of Gaza | Amnesty International

...In an UNRWA primary school in Beit Lahiya, where 1,898 people were sheltering from the fighting, an artillery shell hit a classroom on the second floor where 35 people were sleeping at 6am one morning. Two brothers, aged five and seven, were killed. "Their 18-year-old sister was grievously injured and had to have her leg amputated. Their mother lost a hand and sustained a serious head injury. Twelve others were injured.
Amnesty International team reports from the rubble of Gaza | Amnesty International

Jan 2009
Israel accused of indiscriminate phosphorus use in Gaza

Human Rights Watch report claims Israel committed war crimes in its use of air-burst white phosphorus artillery shells

Palestinian civilians and medics run to safety during an Israeli strike using phosphorus shells at a UN school. Photograph: Mohammed Abed/AFP
Human Rights Watch reveals extent of Israel's phosphorus use in Gaza | World news | guardian.co.uk

July 2006: Israeli Soldiers use civilians as Human Shields in Beit Hanun
20 July 2006: Israeli Soldiers use civilians as Human Shields in Beit Hanun | B'Tselem

November 2010

Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail | World news | The Guardian


October 2005
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel bans use of human shields



A schoolgirl riddled with bullets. And no one is to blame

The undisputed facts are these: it was broad daylight, 13-year-old Iman al-Hams was wearing her school uniform, and when she walked into the Israeli army's "forbidden zone" at the bottom of her street she was carrying her satchel. A few minutes later the short, slight child was pumped with bullets. Doctors counted at least 17 wounds and said much of her head was destroyed... ...The watchtower sits atop a large hill of sand. It is surrounded by barbed wire and other defences. Even before she was hit in the leg, it would have taken Iman 10 minutes or more to scramble up the hill. Once she was wounded, there was little chance she could have got to the watchtower. If she was carrying a bomb, it could have harmed Israeli troops had she got close enough to them. But after Iman was shot in the leg she dropped her school bag. Palestinian witnesses say soldiers pumped it full of bullets, establishing that it was not a bomb, but still went on to shoot the girl...
Israeli unit commander is cleared of Palestinian pupil's death | World news | The Guardian
 
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Goober

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"strikes by the Israeli's against targets"

Where you see targets, I see people.

girl...
Israeli unit commander is cleared of Palestinian pupil's death | World news | The Guardian

No you did not. Care to explain your comment?


We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/102227-judge-tosses-attempt-limit-afghan.html
Supplies to build a shelter, no food, get busy and prepare to die. So yet again you trip yourself up in a that tangled web of crapola and care for Humanity and equality for all. Right.

Now Please pull a SJP and explain it away in words that could only come from a BSA -(Bull Shxt Artist)


Judge tosses attempt to limit Afghan report
 
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These are your words, not mine:


Check the link - your words are as follows. Not my words Chuckey.

We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/102227-judge-tosses-attempt-limit-afghan.html
 

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Check the link - your words are as follows. Not my words Chuckey.

We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/102227-judge-tosses-attempt-limit-afghan.html

I think you mean...this exact link:smile:

The mission was to seek out those responsible for the events of 9/11 and bring them to justice. The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11, but they were friendly towards those responsible. They offered to cooperate and even assist, provided the US proved their accusations had merit.
Taliban 'will try Bin Laden if US provides evidence' | World news | guardian.co.uk

The US responded to that offer with bombs.




We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.
 

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I think you mean...this exact link:smile:



Yeah, Chuckey will be busy whiling away at his twisted logic and reply with a Gordian knot of an answer- To him at least - and believed as credible by no one else excepting perhaps Dancing Loon or that Ein Volk fella. And like Alexander someone will cut his answer in half.
 

earth_as_one

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Goober's attempts to twist what I wrote are plain enough.

I wrote this:

EAO: We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.

Goober claims I wrote this:

: Supplies to build a shelter, no food, get busy and prepare to die....

Those are your words, not mine. I never used the word die nor was it my intent. Your supposed requirements for me to make a detailed list of everything required to survive a Canadian winter or face accusations that I support capital punishment or torture is just trolling BS, lame and pathetic BS at that.

yourself...
 

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Goober's attempts to twist what I wrote are plain enough.

I wrote this:

EAO: We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.

Goober claims I wrote this:

: Supplies to build a shelter, no food, get busy and prepare to die....

Those are your words, not mine. I never used the word die nor was it my intent. Your supposed requirements for me to make a detailed list of everything required to survive a Canadian winter or face accusations that I support capital punishment or torture is just trolling BS, lame and pathetic BS at that.

yourself...
Go down a couple of posts - I copied it word for word - you failed to reply as normal Buckey - and you consider that HUMANE treatment - Really -
 

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I trust Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.
Despite the fact that I have shown that...

1, They reinterpret international law, to suit their agenda.
2, Start with the basis that all war is illegal.
3, Have a proven bias.
4, Rely heavily on anecdotal evidence.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=245665"France condemns the consequences of the raid," he said. "While we are all for Israeli security, France recalls the utmost necessity to avoid civilian harm," Valero said, without specifying the nature of their injuries.
You have to just love those double standards.
 

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Despite the fact that I have shown that...

1, They reinterpret international law, to suit their agenda.
2, Start with the basis that all war is illegal.
3, Have a proven bias.
4, Rely heavily on anecdotal evidence.

You have to just love those double standards.

Pretty difficult to prevent civilian causalities when Hamas sets up in areas where schools, mosques, UN org are located.
 

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Pretty difficult to prevent civilian causalities when Hamas sets up in areas where schools, mosques, UN org are located.
True.

But I still question the value of retaliating against targets, where the IDF must be aware that civilians will suffer.
 

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True.

But I still question the value of retaliating against targets, where the IDF must be aware that civilians will suffer.

Good point. As we have discussed before on a Canadian Major. i think that was a deliberate targeting. My opinion. In a crowded area such as Gaza, there is always a high probability that civilians will be injured or killed. A sad situation as they are in many cases held hostage to Hams and the other wackos.

My opinion again. Take away the PLO reasons for not returning to the Negotiations - Freezing new construction. Then see what happens. Hamas and the PLO will have to decide.

BBC News - Iran nuclear: UN voices 'deep concern' over plans
For those that swore the IAEA was God will now turn away from their God. Says a lot about where they stand on evidence and information. If it agrees with a person views it is relevant. If it disagrees than it is a US or what the fuk plot.

And the above point has been proven based upon a Scientific analysis and the facts as mentioned above were proven.


The UN's nuclear watchdog has passed a resolution expressing "deep and increasing concern" about Iran's nuclear programme.

The IAEA resolution called on Iran to clear up outstanding questions about its nuclear capabilities, but did not refer it to the UN Security Council.

A recent IAEA report said Iran had carried out tests "relevant to the development of a nuclear device".

Iran's IAEA envoy said the resolution would only strengthen Iran's resolve.

"It will be business as usual... We will continue our work as before," Ali Ashgar Soltanieh told reporters.

Iran insists that it is enriching uranium only to use as fuel for nuclear power stations. However, the US and its allies believe it is trying to develop a nuclear weapon.

Hard-hitting

The resolution was adopted by 32 votes against two - Cuba and Ecuador - at an IAEA meeting in Vienna.
 

earth_as_one

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The US and its allies also believed Iraq had WMD stockpiles ready for launch in 30 minutes as well as involvement in the events of 9/11. Did you believe those lies too?

The recent IAEA report contains no new information, except for the revelation that Iranian nuclear scientists played with poor quality nuclear bomb simulations... according to the US claims regarding what they found on a laptop they stole from one of these scientists. But such accusations wouldn't hold up in a court of law, since the US had years to tamper with the evidence.

The fact is that Iran has an NPT right to pursue peaceful nuclear technology. I don't think Iranians want or need nuclear weapons... at the present moment. If they wanted one, they'd have built one years ago. Since they don't already have one, it strongly suggests they aren't actively pursuing one.

At some point Iran may decide to violate the NPT and build one. I suspect they are waiting for Israel or the US to provide justification.

Regarding the use of human shields... I could rant about Israel's ridiculous claims, but this person already did. Why re-invent the wheel:

In Gaza Conflict - Which Side Is Using Human Shields? - YouTube
 
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The US and its allies also believed Iraq had WMD stockpiles ready for launch in 30 minutes as well as involvement in the events of 9/11. Did you believe those lies too?
Well Chuckey even Saddams General believed he had WMD's. Just the facts - Most people had that belief based upon his years of obstructing UN Inspectors.

So were you one of the few that did not??????????????????????????
 

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The US and its allies also believed Iraq had WMD stockpiles ready for launch in 30 minutes as well as involvement in the events of 9/11.
Why wouldn't they? They had good intel from Germany that it was true.

Did you believe those lies too?
You didn't?

Regarding the use of human shields... I could rant about Israel's ridiculous claims, but this person already did. Why re-invent the wheel:
Gawd bless that anecdotal evidence. Where would you be without it.

It's a shame you question any anecdotal evidence, about Palestinians...
 

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The fact is, Iraq was cooperating with UNMOVIC and the US decision to invade occupy Iraq came soon after UNMOVIC reported to the UNSC that Iraq was cooperating and that all remaining disarmament issues would be resolved within months. The Bush regime knew that once Iraq was declared free of WMds, the American public would not support an invasion. That's why they invaded Iraq before UNMOVIC filed their final report.

7 MARCH 2003
How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament and at any rate the verification of it cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude, induced by continued outside pressure, it would still take some time to verify sites and items, analyse documents, interview relevant persons, and draw conclusions. It would not take years, nor weeks, but months. Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm, if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programmes.
Security Council 7 March 2003
 
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The fact is, Iraq was cooperating with UNMOVIC and the US decision to invade occupy Iraq came soon after they reported that Iraq was cooperating and that all remaining disarmament issues within

Please review the Iran Parliament and what they they have mad as public statements. Also try and tear apart what i had mentioned as part of the OP.