Important Rally During YVR Olympics-For Wild Salmon

countryboy

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After all the squabbling in the newsmedia about digging the true cost of them out of the gov't? The obvious bigotry of the IOC (women's ski-jumping. The IOC blatantly said that women weren't good enough) hitting the news? lol Funny

Well actually, I was thinking about Canada. The IOC can take care of their own embarrassments...they seem to be pretty good at creating them! :lol:
 

AnnaG

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Well actually, I was thinking about Canada. The IOC can take care of their own embarrassments...they seem to be pretty good at creating them! :lol:
Like I said, all the squabbling that's gone on because the gov'ts refuse to publish the real costs of the Olys?
 

countryboy

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Like I said, all the squabbling that's gone on because the gov'ts refuse to publish the real costs of the Olys?

They can't keep up with the accounting right now...those snow totin' trucks and helicopters don't come cheap. The final tally is going to take time, and we'll never see the final number - it'll be buried deeper than a novice skier in an avalanche.
 

JLM

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They can't keep up with the accounting right now...those snow totin' trucks and helicopters don't come cheap. The final tally is going to take time, and we'll never see the final number - it'll be buried deeper than a novice skier in an avalanche.

Yeah, they may have to hire Elizabeth Cull and Glen Clark on an interim basis to find out how you can "lose" a hundred million w/o anyone noticing..................:lol::lol::lol:
 

countryboy

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Yeah, they may have to hire Elizabeth Cull and Glen Clark on an interim basis to find out how you can "lose" a hundred million w/o anyone noticing..................:lol::lol::lol:

Their consulting fees would be peanuts in the overall picture. And they could be buried in the confusion too! (Their fees, not them personally)...
 

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Alexandra Morton is a poor scientist. She started out with the theory that fish farms are bad and then manipulates the data to confirm her theory. To date not a single farmed fish has been introduced to the ocean with lice attached. They all come from the wild. Long before fish farms were invented I can remember catching salmon with dozens of lice attached.
The real reason the anti fish farm crowd is so happy that the supremes decided that fish farms should be a federal responsibility instead of provincial is that Fed Fish has a track record of destroying every fishery they ever miss-managed. Their goal is to eliminate any real jobs on the coast. For some reason they never complain about the commercial sports fishery that has sprouted up in this area, even though it is poorly regulated,poorly paid,creates a huge carbon footprint and is devastating to wild fish populations. Having worked on the mid coast/Johnstone Straights area most of my life I have noticed the decline in both fish stocks and bear population since all the fish camps and ecco tourism camps started infesting the area although I have no hard data to prove the connection. Just an on the ground observation.
 

Mowich

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Sure, why don't we hold protests for every thing that is wrong with our society. Take the spotlight off the athletes. Who cares about them anyway - they are just pawns of the IOC and all the years of dedication and hard work mean nothing. They don't deserve their moment to shine, their moment in the sun. It is far more important that we make as much noise as we can about farmed salmon, hydro electric projects, the downtown Eastside and on and on and on.

Sheesh.
 

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Taxslave, you make some good points regarding Alexandra Morton's research. Salmon Farming produces just as healthy of fish as wild fish. There are multiple ways the farmers work to keep feed from falling to the bottom with the use of camera's, workers are able to constantly monitor when they need to go in and out the left over feed.
Wild salmon are definitely under pressure. Farmed salmon can helo to alleviate this growing demand.

Farmed salmon are treated for sea lice with high tech cameras, which watch for feed and waste, when anyone of these passy by a camera someone goes and cleans it out. This is done to ensure there are suitable measures being taken for the wild habitat.
 

bill barilko

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Salmon Farming produces just as healthy of fish as wild fish.
Then why is the flesh so soft mushy and muddy tasting?

Why are there traces of antibiotics, fungicides, pesticides and growth hormones in the flesh of so many farmed animals?

Farmed and Dangerous

There are multiple ways the farmers work to keep feed from falling to the bottom with the use of camera's, workers are able to constantly monitor when they need to go in and out the left over feed.
Workers are paid minimum wage and do as little as possible-Plus I have never met a fish farm employee who would eat the stuff they are paid to raise.

Farmed salmon are treated for sea lice with high tech cameras, which watch for feed and waste, when anyone of these passy by a camera someone goes and cleans it out. This is done to ensure there are suitable measures being taken for the wild habitat.
Taking lovely little pictures doesn't remove Sea Lice infestations from the ocean-the same Sea Lice that attack wild Salmon Smolts.

And the idea that someone is removing lice from individual fish is downright idiocy.
 

relic

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Hi Bill,please allow me to introduce myself,a fish farm worker that makes more than minimum wage and eats the fish.I have to admit,they are char,not salmon,but they eat the same feed,and a hell of a lot more of it. But since I,m from the east,i guess my taste buds aren't as refined as yours.
 

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Fish are like most other creatures. If they don't exercise and get a variety of nourishment, they get listless and bland. Fish farms coop fish up much like chicken farms coop chickens. They eat grains and stuff; few bugs, few mice, little greens, etc. and are surrounded 24/7 by other chickens and their shyte. Taste a piece of free range chicken and then a piece of factory chicken sometime. The same idea, try a bit of wild pink salmon and then try a bit of farmed atlantic salmon sometime.