Imagine the news you’ll get if Notley decides who can and can’t report

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It is for the AB NDP.

As for qualifications, The Rebel has enough to qualify as a media outlet, like any other.

I just wonder if I paid their dues, would they call me a journalist. Since they're a dying association.

You got the dying part right .
Here in lala land the great news station CKNW is now down to running their talk shows twice in the same day .
Newspapers are also dying and laying off or consolidating positions .
CBC is the only alive because of Canadian taxpayer $'s .
Soon the only real new source will be bloggers , where will Gerry get his accredited news from then ?

 

[CDNBear]

I don't believe accreditation is the actual problem here. Hate for Levant is.

Thankfully Canadian journalists of all stripes were able to put aside their disdain for Levant and rally around him.

I'll take their opinion of what a journalist is, over that of people who are blinded by hate, any time.

 

[DaSleeper]

The only thing I find wrong with Levant is that he overstates his opinion, and repeats himself and goes on and on....

But he make sense ...most of the time!

 

[CDNBear]

The only thing I find wrong with Levant is that he overstates his opinion, and repeats himself and goes on and on....

But he make sense ...most of the time!

I think he's full of sh!t a good 75% of the time. Not that the basis for opposition isn't there, but more that he uses a lot of rhetoric and spin to make his opinion seem legit.

Take the sex ed course change in Ontario. His position was way out to lunch. Boo and I sat here and read the course outline while following Levant's breakdown. We're still not sure how he came to many of his conclusions.

I will agree, in some cases his position is righteous, but he overshadows it with a lot of BS that makes him look like a clown and simply does himself a disservice. I get he's an infotainer, like so many other media mouthpieces, but he does himself about the same good as Flossy. I highly suspect Flossy hates him as much as he does, because he sees himself in Levant.

 

[Nick Danger]

Just about everything The Rebel publishes these days is predicated by their disdain for Notely and the NDP. They start from there and spin the news to further their agenda of spreading their own political views. They omit, exaggerate and twist the facts to make the point they want. Objective and accurate reporting of the news is not on their menu, they are a clutch of opinion columnists masquerading as a news source. What's more they are preying on the fear and anger that many Albertans are feeling these days to service their anti-NDP agenda.

Sure, our constitution gives us the right to say what we want, but when we have an audience of thousands is there not some duty to exercise that right responsibly? Levant is targeting Albertans who are in a very vulnerable place right now, and giving them Notely and the NDP as the focal point for their emotions, when in fact most of the problems facing Albertans have their base in the crash of the oil market, a global phenomenon beyond the control of any government.

Don't get me wrong here, obviously I'm no huge fan of Ezra Levant, but he is not the only one out there severely lacking in journaistic integrity. In this day of instant communication any quack with a keyboard and an attitude can make themselves heard, and these quacks know no political boundaries. And the ethical degradation is becoming so pervasive that one doesn't know where to go to find a straightforward, objective and trustworthy news source. I'm skeptical enough that I'll read a number of sources and do my own evaluation from there, but it is cause for serious concern that people will actually consider a goon squad like The Rebel as a reputable news source. It means there are a lot of people out there basing important decisions on bad information.

 

[CDNBear]

Just about everything The Rebel publishes these days is predicated by their disdain for Notely and the NDP.

Incorrect.

From The Rebel's "The Latest" news feed.

I'm skeptical enough that I'll read a number of sources and do my own evaluation from there, but it is cause for serious concern that people will actually consider a goon squad like The Rebel as a reputable news source.

You should probably just stick to what people say, instead of making it up. You sound as bad as the goon squad you think The Rebel is. Hence your comment above, that took me less than 60secs to disprove.

 

[DaSleeper]

I think he's full of sh!t a good 75% of the time. Not that the basis for opposition isn't there, but more that he uses a lot of rhetoric and spin to make his opinion seem legit.

Take the sex ed course change in Ontario. His position was way out to lunch. Boo and I sat here and read the course outline while following Levant's breakdown. We're still not sure how he came to many of his conclusions.

I will agree, in some cases his position is righteous, but he overshadows it with a lot of BS that makes him look like a clown and simply does himself a disservice. I get he's an infotainer, like so many other media mouthpieces, but he does himself about the same good as Flossy. I highly suspect Flossy hates him as much as he does, because he sees himself in Levant.

You and I and others can filter out the bullshyte, and see the truth in what he has to say, but haters and ideologues can't seem to get through their hate and ideology!

 

[CDNBear]

You and I and others can filter out the bullshyte, and see the truth in what he has to say, but haters and ideologues can't seem to get through their hate and ideology!

Bingo. Feigned objectivity isn't objectivity.

 

[Nick Danger]

So is there a one-stop source for honest reporting anywhere?

 

[CDNBear]

So is there a one-stop source for honest reporting anywhere?

No...

 

[Nick Danger]

I get he's an infotainer, like so many other media mouthpieces

So as far as people who can't see this, who actually consider sites like The Rebel as credible news sources, there is no onus on the publishers to make it plain that they are offering a biased perspective?

No...

Where do you get your news?

 

[DaSleeper]

So is there a one-stop source for honest reporting anywhere?

As long as you consciously realize that that any news you watch is filtered by your own personal bias, then you are on your way to critical thought, and you might change your mind......not on everything.....but a few things here and there, whether you are ready to admit it or not!
If you only watch news that you approve of.....you will never grow!

 

[taxslave]

If you're saying that the CBC is on the same level of journalistic integrity as The Rebel then your stock just took a nose dive.

Any program of certification aimed at raising the quality of journalism in this country would have to apply to everyone to be effective. That means it would have to be administered and regulated by a non-partisan, non-government entity. It would also help if it was self-supporting through membership and education fees to avoid any involvement with government. It would also have to maintain a high standard of ethics with penalties for those who strayed from the straight and narrow.

http://www.caj.ca/

Take a look at the Canadian Association of Journalists website and peruse their code of ethics. I wonder just how many working journalists in the country today could say that they abide by standards anywhere close to those.

Just about none and that is the whole point here.

 

[CDNBear]

So as far as people who can't see this, who actually consider sites like The Rebel as credible news sources, there is no onus on the publishers to make it plain that they are offering a biased perspective?

As much as there is on the CBC, HuffPost, Rabble, etc.

So where do you get your news?

Everywhere I can. I oft research the same news story from several different outlets. You'd be amazed as to how the same story will differ between, say the CBC and Global or NP or the Sun. Or how they all differ from The original article at the Canadian Press, or Rueters, etc. Sometimes you even need an outside source like CAMERA to wade through what's reported in the MSM here in the west.

As long as you consciously realize that that any news you watch is filtered by your own personal bias, then you are on your way to critical thought, and you might change your mind......not on everything.....but a few things here and there, whether you are ready to admit it or not!
If you only watch news that you approve of.....you will never grow!

That's why I take in so many different news and opinions sources. While the feigned objective rail against the ones they dislike.

 

[DaSleeper]

As much as there is on the CBC, HuffPost, Rabble, etc.

That's why I take in so many different news and opinions sources. While the feigned objective rail against the ones they dislike.

And that's why I will post something outrageous that Levant has to say.....Just to troll the "progressive" ideologues, and I don't pretend otherwise...
I can't speak for Locutus.....or you.....but I'm sure y'all does the same thing.....

 

[CDNBear]

And that's why I will post something outrageous that Levant has to say.....Just to troll the "progressive" ideologues, and I don't pretend otherwise...
I can't speak for Locutus.....or you.....but I'm sure y'all does the same thing.....

As often as possible, lol.

 

[Nick Danger]

Everywhere I can. I oft research the same news story from several different outlets. You'd be amazed as to how the same story will differ between, say the CBC and Global or NP or the Sun. Or how they all differ from The original article at the Canadian Press, or Rueters, etc. Sometimes you even need an outside source like CAMERA to wade through what's reported in the MSM here in the west.

Excuse me, that's just what I described above and you referred to it as "making it up".

Sure it's idealistic, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to trust someone to deliver the news accurately, completely and without political bias?

 

[CDNBear]

Excuse me, that's just what I described above and you referred to it as "making it up".

...

I'm skeptical enough that I'll read a number of sources and do my own evaluation from there, but it is cause for serious concern that people will actually consider a goon squad like The Rebel as a reputable news source.

It was that portion of your comment that I was addressing.

Sure it's idealistic, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to trust someone to deliver the news accurately, completely and without political bias?

Of course it'd be nice. But I have no hopes of it ever happening.

 

[Nick Danger]

But I have no hopes of it ever happening.

I can certainly understand that, but I'll hang on to my faint idealistic hopes.

Is it not some cause for concern that with the changing face of media these days unethical outlets are able to thrive while maintaining a masquerade as credible sources?

This happens with sources of all political stripe but The Rebel is a good example because they're in the news at the moment. They don't want to play by any rules of responsible journalism but want to be granted all the perks anyways. Doesn't it send the wrong signal to treat these people like something they're not?

...It was that portion of your comment that I was addressing.

In which case your reply makes little sense. Maybe you could elaborate.

 

[CDNBear]

Is it not some cause for concern that with the changing face of media these days unethical outlets are able to thrive while maintaining a masquerade as credible sources?

It's the nature of the new world.

Just look at what the Joo haters and nutters post in this forum, as legitimate news.

It doesn't matter that they've been disproved time and time again, they keep posting the same news sources with the same crazy connect the dot logic that requires more imagination than critical thought.

This happens with sources of all political stripe but The Rebel is a good example because they're in the news at the moment. They don't want to play by any rules of responsible journalism but want to be granted all the perks anyways. Doesn't it send the wrong signal to treat these people like something they're not?

They're a legitimate media outlet and I treat them no differently than the CBC, CTV, Sun or The Star. I place no more valisity in their Op/Ed's than I do any other pundits.

I don't know what you think responsible journalism is. If I apply the 5 principles of journalism, I have difficulty finding any one outlet that hasn't in some way failed to meet that accepted standard, in some way shape or form, at some time or another.

Most if not all media outlets, radio, tv, print, online, have an Op/Ed journalists. Ezra is no different than any of them, apart from being a clown on a screen. They all have their biases and show them in their Op/Ed pieces. While some can be objective, others not so much. That in no way reflects on the ability of the outlet as a whole to disseminate and convey the news, which in many cases is filtered through any given media outlets ideological filters.

Take the CBC for instance, it has a tendency to filter out the race of the perpetrators of crimes. While an outlet like Global will publish the same story from the same Police press release source, and have all the details included.

So I don't see what you mean when you say they're pretending to be something they're not.

In which case your reply makes little sense. Maybe you could elaborate.

You didn't temper it with the fact that it took me less than 60secs to prove the claim you made directly before your statement in question.