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The Central Scrutinizer
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Nothing has changed in the amphetamine world. It was just as popular to strip the binder from the pills sold like lollipops in the post war era making a concentrate like "crystal" as it is today.

The difference being they didn't have Channel 7 Action News showing you 200+ images with aggresive fear driven narration.

The drug abuse never changed merely the images portrayed to you.

Mrs. C was more than likely the legal amp head and Fonzie the evil reeferhead.

Why do they never show the well off white abusers on TV? They aren't scary people to you.....YET!
 

Niflmir

A modern nomad
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Has there ever existed a form of crystal meth not made from those types of ingredients?

Regardless of how safe they could make it, it would still be a very dangerous drug. Then we have the problem of inevitably having to devote considerable health care resources toward a problem the government is actively complicit in.

See, I would argue the converse. They are currently complicit in the problem. The current policy of prohibition is doing nothing but driving the activity underground, the policy of criminality is punishing these people and not helping them. We are already devoting considerable resources towards this problem and we are not trying to help people, we are trying to punish them. So currently, we take a known problem and make it worse?

Further, how truly dangerous is methamphetamine? How much of the known side effects can be attributed to contamination by the extremely toxic ingredients? Or due to just poor hygiene? What studies have been done? What real non-emotional reasons does society truly have to fear giving people legal access to such a substance?

Criminality should not be a default position for something personal. It should be necessary to give an enormous amount of evidence to support such a position. But there is almost none.

In short. I don't believe you. Where is the evidence that it is so dangerous?
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
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Has there ever existed a form of crystal meth not made from those types of ingredients?

Regardless of how safe they could make it, it would still be a very dangerous drug. Then we have the problem of inevitably having to devote considerable health care resources toward a problem the government is actively complicit in.

How in the world did you get into this argument?

Meth is speed and as such is rarely available in prescription form. It is alright under the watchful eye of a doctor when used sparsly for a specific ailment.
To sell it like booze would not only be ridiculous but highly dangerous as 99.9% or so of people will crash and burn on this stuff.

Adding this to the idea of decriminalizing Pot is like adding field artillery to unrestricted firearm sales. Don't even go there girlfriend!
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
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See, I would argue the converse. They are currently complicit in the problem. The current policy of prohibition is doing nothing but driving the activity underground, the policy of criminality is punishing these people and not helping them. We are already devoting considerable resources towards this problem and we are not trying to help people, we are trying to punish them. So currently, we take a known problem and make it worse?

Further, how truly dangerous is methamphetamine? How much of the known side effects can be attributed to contamination by the extremely toxic ingredients? Or due to just poor hygiene? What studies have been done? What real non-emotional reasons does society truly have to fear giving people legal access to such a substance?

Criminality should not be a default position for something personal. It should be necessary to give an enormous amount of evidence to support such a position. But there is almost none.

In short. I don't believe you. Where is the evidence that it is so dangerous?

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