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Zipperfish

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Yep. That's the thing. Both men are intelligent and mature enough to walk away at any time. They realize that neither is going to change their stance.

But, sometimes the peanut gallery may want for more and add their special contributions to um, help the thread along. Know what I mean Vern?

You're a murderer!!!!!!
 

JLM

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So, it's ok to condemn the act, but not those that preform or support that act, is that right? So we can condemn what Olson did, but we can't condemn him, and it would be just ducky to support him in his decision.

Now you are getting the picture. Olson was convicted in a court of law by his peers after extensive investigation. My wife had an abortion 30 years ago as a result of a tubal pregnancy, it was necessary if she wanted to continue living whereas the fetus didn't have a chance anyway, so it is very necessary to get ALL details before condemning anyone. I'm just saying from a person to abort simply because its an convenience is wrong (in my mind its murder) but that hasn't been passed into law yet.
 

PoliticalNick

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Yep. That's the thing. Both men are intelligent and mature enough to walk away at any time. They realize that neither is going to change their stance.
I actually don't want to change Gerry's stance. I happen to be against abortion. Not because I think it's murder because under the law it isn't, but because I believe in personal responsibility.
But, sometimes the peanut gallery may want for more and add their special contributions to um, help the thread along. Know what I mean Vern?
You mean it isn't my fault? It's your fault? You a$$hole! ;-)
 

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You're a murderer!!!!!!

I actually don't want to change Gerry's stance. I happen to be against abortion. Not because I think it's murder because under the law it isn't, but because I believe in personal responsibility.

You mean it isn't my fault? It's your fault? You a$$hole! ;-)


I've been called worse by a lot better than you wiggers. :lol:
 

Corduroy

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I actually don't want to change Gerry's stance. I happen to be against abortion. Not because I think it's murder because under the law it isn't, but because I believe in personal responsibility.

Why is it that "personal responsibility" means you can't terminate a pregnancy?
 

PoliticalNick

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Why is it that "personal responsibility" means you can't terminate a pregnancy?

Actually I believe for some people the most responsible thing to do is terminate, but that isn't my decision or judgement to make. Having fostered a few kids I know first-hand what lousy parents can do to children and given that people like Gerry are far more likely to run their mouths than ever foster or adopt these children then abortion may be a legitimate recourse.
 

gerryh

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Actually I believe for some people the most responsible thing to do is terminate, but that isn't my decision or judgement to make. Having fostered a few kids I know first-hand what lousy parents can do to children and given that people like Gerry are far more likely to run their mouths than ever foster or adopt these children then abortion may be a legitimate recourse.


more ignorance from the terminally brain dead.
 

PoliticalNick

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That's all you got?

Must be tough to be stuck in a place where you either have to admit immaculate conception is a real possibility due to past evidence (which means abstinence isn't 100% effective) or admit the blessed virgin wasn't really a virgin. Sorry to put you into such a paradox of logic but hey, it's your beliefs, not mine.
 

PoliticalNick

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more ignorance from the terminally brain dead.

Really G? How many kids have you fostered? How many have you adopted? I have done both. You want all these unwanted children brought into the world to suffer under the worst parents but are you willing to step up and provide a decent, stable home and life for them? I don't think so.

because murdering another human is not taking any kind of personal responsibility for your actions.
Where you fail here is that it isn't murder under the law of our land, only in your biased and dogmatic opinion.
 

gerryh

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That's all you got?

Must be tough to be stuck in a place where you either have to admit immaculate conception is a real possibility due to past evidence (which means abstinence isn't 100% effective) or admit the blessed virgin wasn't really a virgin. Sorry to put you into such a paradox of logic but hey, it's your beliefs, not mine.


stupidity and ignorance, bringing up something that you obviously know nothing about.

Really G? How many kids have you fostered? How many have you adopted? I have done both. You want all these unwanted children brought into the world to suffer under the worst parents but are you willing to step up and provide a decent, stable home and life for them? I don't think so.

Children and babies of drug addicted mothers and fathers...when, where, and who is none of your business.

Where you fail here is that it isn't murder under the law of our land, only in your biased and dogmatic opinion.


uh huh....... and not that long ago, killing a black man was not murder because they were not human..........by law.
 

Corduroy

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because murdering another human is not taking any kind of personal responsibility for your actions.

In other words, despite the fact that you go on and on about personal responsibility, it's really about the killing of human fetuses. There are a lot of bad arguments on both sides of the abortion debate, and the humanity of a fetus is your best one. Personal responsibility is not a good argument because that would never trump murder, and if abortion is not murder it would not follow that having a child is necessary personal responsibility for a pregnancy.

The subtext of the personal responsibility argument is clear and whenever people bring it up, one cannot help but understand that subtext. When you say personal responsibility you are ascribing moral value to sex. Unfortunately there is none, and historically the link between sex and morality is meant to control female sexuality, that grand mystery you all want to possess and so jealously oppress.
 

PoliticalNick

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stupidity and ignorance, bringing up something that you obviously know nothing about.
So you have no answer for that eh? As I thought.

Now to the other question...are you ready to put up or shut up? Will you foster or adopt a bunch of these children you want born to terrible parents who don't want them in the first place?