If Saddam still ruled, there would be no Arab Spring

Walter

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If we waited until now before intervening, the Iraqi people could have overthrown Hussein themselves with far less outside interference and at a fraction of the cost.
Why didin't you tell us this before? Please tell us what the world will be like in 2020.

Democracy is exclusively a Western concept. It has never originated independently outside the West. It requires a cultural context within which to grow, or imposition by a hegemon. Democracy cannot survive in the Arab world.
They need their Magna Carta.

BTW, 100,000 is more than the Israelis have killed in 63 years of war.
Bloody Jews.
 

Colpy

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Why didin't you tell us this before? Please tell us what the world will be like in 2020.

They need their Magna Carta.

More than that, they need a religion that recognizes the worth of the individual, and allows freedom of choice.........reward and punishment regulated to the next life.

It is called Christianity. Or its twin brother Deism, which is the same thing without the belief in the divinity of Christ.

Western freedom, and therefore western supremacy in all areas, from technology, to wealth, to human rights, springs directly from the benevolent philosophy of that religion.

Repressive, racist, maniacal Islam only propels people backwards.
 

YukonJack

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Democracy is exclusively a Western concept. It has never originated independently outside the West. It requires a cultural context within which to grow, or imposition by a hegemon. Democracy cannot survive in the Arab world.

And a relatively new one, at that, even in the West.
Where religion is paramount it is inconceivable.
 

petros

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Because they probably get paid better than our guys and have amnesty as contractors the same way Blackwater and the likes do.
 

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New/old report confirms WMD fears in Iraq were legitimate


Robert Spencer, one of the nation's leading experts on the Islamic religion, says he doesn't understand why the Bush administration has not jumped on a recent report that confirms former dictator Saddam Hussein intended to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction.


Recently CBS's 60 Minutes aired an interview with George Piro, a Lebanese-born FBI agent, who debriefed Saddam Hussein following his capture in December 2003. Piro was able to get Hussein to admit that while he did not have active WMD programs in 2003, he wanted to reconstitute all of them -- chemical, biological, and even nuclear.

Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch, says the White House should be all over this story. "It's ironic really, that oddly enough the Bush administration -- with so much to lose and so much damage to its credibility over the years because of these allegations -- has not jumped on these kinds of reports and made sure that they came to the broadest audience possible," he ponders.

The Islamic expert says Piro's comments ought to debunk the critics who say the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with the global war on Islamic terrorism. "It's clear that it's all part of the same thing, that there is the Jihad ideology that is universal and is held by those in Iraq as well as so many others around the world -- and that's part of a larger struggle," argues Spencer.

Jihad Watch: New report confirms WMD fears in Iraq were legitimate (OneNewsNow.com)
Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration's decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says - January 26, 2006 - The New York Sun


 

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"If Saddam still ruled, there would be no Arab Spring"



Christopher Hitchens: If Saddam still ruled, there would be no Arab Spring | Full Comment | National Post

So very interesting.

Could it be, is it feasible, that President George W. Bush is responsible for a liberation movement that has already changed the face of the Middle East.........and may shatter the chains of millions of people?

It is possible.

I laugh.

Death to tyrants.

Maybe. But still pure speculation.
 

Bar Sinister

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An interesting premise. Unfortunately for Mr. Hitchens' or his supporters his arguments are impossible to prove. So far as the Arab Spring is concerned I am much more inclined to give credit to developments in media in the last few years; developments which did not exist in 2003, but which are now very widespread even in dictatorships.