I just had to tell you guys what my kid did yesterday
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This is not racism. How do you know the person wasn't from eastern Europe? There are a lot of Eastern Europeans in Canada.
That's the problem with the Left. They scream "racism" at every opportunity. You guys don't understand that you lose credibility every time you pull the race card on something like this. People don't like this PC-nazism and react against it.
However, it is rude. I would be embarrassed if my son swore over the phone at anyone who was being polite to him, and would certainly discipline him for it.
That's the problem with the Left. They scream "racism" at every opportunity. You guys don't understand that you lose credibility every time you pull the race card on something like this. People don't like this PC-nazism and react against it.
However, it is rude. I would be embarrassed if my son swore over the phone at anyone who was being polite to him, and would certainly discipline him for it.
Tracy/Toro
I think you two have latched on to some of the problem here... the accusation of racist was misplaced.... Greta's son used an epithet and it was rude..... but how smart are 17 year olds?
If Greta said it was ok and thought it was funny - that is her decision and we come off like a group of chattering aunties about Greta's parenting.
I like her sense of humor....it sounds like her son has it too... and perhaps that is the way he talks with his friends and family.... because he was in his own home on his own phone.... anything and everything goes.... because Greta gets to make the decisions not us.
Rude is a whole 'nother thing.... and I have just finished a great little book I got at Christmas about the rudeness of our society these days.... it was written for the U.K. by a British broadcaster...but the rudeness extends internationally.
I hope we get over it soon. I have been conducting a test lately to let traffic in ahead of me when there is a "questionable" who goes first kind of thing.... I wave them on and smile...and wow I have made some really great silent exchanges - thumbs up...waves back...grins...and with one big firetruck the guy hung out of the window and yelled thanks....surprising everyone with polite behavior might have its rewards......
I have also been laughed at because I am always polite in public...
have been teased for being such a dork... but that's my own thing...and everyone must make their own way....with their own choices.
I think you two have latched on to some of the problem here... the accusation of racist was misplaced.... Greta's son used an epithet and it was rude..... but how smart are 17 year olds?
If Greta said it was ok and thought it was funny - that is her decision and we come off like a group of chattering aunties about Greta's parenting.
I like her sense of humor....it sounds like her son has it too... and perhaps that is the way he talks with his friends and family.... because he was in his own home on his own phone.... anything and everything goes.... because Greta gets to make the decisions not us.
Rude is a whole 'nother thing.... and I have just finished a great little book I got at Christmas about the rudeness of our society these days.... it was written for the U.K. by a British broadcaster...but the rudeness extends internationally.
I hope we get over it soon. I have been conducting a test lately to let traffic in ahead of me when there is a "questionable" who goes first kind of thing.... I wave them on and smile...and wow I have made some really great silent exchanges - thumbs up...waves back...grins...and with one big firetruck the guy hung out of the window and yelled thanks....surprising everyone with polite behavior might have its rewards......
I have also been laughed at because I am always polite in public...
have been teased for being such a dork... but that's my own thing...and everyone must make their own way....with their own choices.
I keep wondering about that person on the other end of the line. Maybe they've moved to Canada fairly recently, and they've been working hard to learn the language, maybe in just a few short months they've gone from not speaking English at all to speaking it well enough to chance taking a job like this without worrying about being ridiculed, maybe they were even feeling pretty proud of the progress they've made. If so, they were certainly taught otherwise, and by a child, no less. I doubt that they'd see much humour in the lesson, though.
Yes, it is just one possible scenario, one that is as likely as not to be true. We have no way of knowing, but the thought bothers me. Although rudeness has become commonplace, I feel this incident transcends simple rudeness. It was deliberately hurtful, and it is a terrible thing to hurt someone in such a way.
Wednesday's Child, was the little book you read at Christmas called 'Talk to the Hand' by Lynne Truss, by chance? Great book, I also received it as a Christmas gift, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Yes, it is just one possible scenario, one that is as likely as not to be true. We have no way of knowing, but the thought bothers me. Although rudeness has become commonplace, I feel this incident transcends simple rudeness. It was deliberately hurtful, and it is a terrible thing to hurt someone in such a way.
Wednesday's Child, was the little book you read at Christmas called 'Talk to the Hand' by Lynne Truss, by chance? Great book, I also received it as a Christmas gift, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Haggis
There you go!!!
That's exactly the book and I think I'll pick up the other one she wrote... Shoot....something or other. Oh I am so glad you confirm my opinion about that book...I sometimes wonder about my humor ... but to hear that you enjoyed it too makes me feel more "normal"!!!
It is a great laugh and now that my friend wants to borrow it to read...I am thinking she may have to leave a deposit so I am sure I'll get it back.
Truss is so observant, I'd love to tag along with her on a daily walk through her world.... rib-breaking stuff.
I like the commentary about giving up your seat for a pregnant woman only to find out later she was just "fat"...hahaha...
I keep remembering some of her witticism, and it's kind of embarassing when I am driving in traffic laughing out loud - I get these stares from people who probably think I am sipping whiskey on my way to work lol...
There you go!!!
That's exactly the book and I think I'll pick up the other one she wrote... Shoot....something or other. Oh I am so glad you confirm my opinion about that book...I sometimes wonder about my humor ... but to hear that you enjoyed it too makes me feel more "normal"!!!
It is a great laugh and now that my friend wants to borrow it to read...I am thinking she may have to leave a deposit so I am sure I'll get it back.
Truss is so observant, I'd love to tag along with her on a daily walk through her world.... rib-breaking stuff.
I like the commentary about giving up your seat for a pregnant woman only to find out later she was just "fat"...hahaha...
I keep remembering some of her witticism, and it's kind of embarassing when I am driving in traffic laughing out loud - I get these stares from people who probably think I am sipping whiskey on my way to work lol...
Yes, I want to get her other book as well. It takes on the weighty matter of using proper English, I think. She's great!
I loaned my copy of Talk to the Hand to my daughter, who had best remember to return it to me. If she tries to give me tawdry excuses for not returning it, why . . . I'll just tell her to talk to the hand.
I loaned my copy of Talk to the Hand to my daughter, who had best remember to return it to me. If she tries to give me tawdry excuses for not returning it, why . . . I'll just tell her to talk to the hand.
I always tell get on people who cant speak english. Those call centers are always in some foreign country......I always tell them to call me back with someone in Canada......I mean I cannot stand their programmed abuse.
Haggis
Well your daughter has "rights" - but my girlfriend does not - she bought it for me and now wants to read it.... there is method in her giving....
All the same, it will be fun to see what she thinks of it too....
I hope your daughter likes it....I love Brit humor - even watch the Parliament in session so I can get a few laughs at the way they sort things out....our western governments seem dull after seeing
Blair get his regular roasting :lol:
Well your daughter has "rights" - but my girlfriend does not - she bought it for me and now wants to read it.... there is method in her giving....
All the same, it will be fun to see what she thinks of it too....
I hope your daughter likes it....I love Brit humor - even watch the Parliament in session so I can get a few laughs at the way they sort things out....our western governments seem dull after seeing
Blair get his regular roasting :lol:
If Greta said it was ok and thought it was funny - that is her decision and we come off like a group of chattering aunties about Greta's parenting.
--------------------------Wednesday's Child---------------
LOL !!
Now that wins for the most funniest line in this
thread.
--------------------------Wednesday's Child---------------
LOL !!
Now that wins for the most funniest line in this
thread.
Thank you.
On topic, I am a young guy who knows that this comment is wrong. However, saying that comments like this go on all the time is just wrong.
It is not fair for comments about a person because of what they look like, how they act, how they speak is wrong. Because it is not helpful to that person and helpful to the person who speaks it as well.
You can call it racism, you can call it bigotry, you can call it a fact of life but it is plain wrong the way it is.
Now, if Green Greta' son said about the liberals instead of the person on the phone, I'd be all for it, because it is directed at the machine of the Liberal party, but her son attacked this person who was just doing his/her job and being attacked because they can't speak good english is wrong.
Now, to Green Greta directly, you in the past might have had comments hurled at you because you are Irish or of Irish descent. Now that is wrong too, and if you feel that they are hurtful you should report it to someone, or tell the person or persons directly that you don't like the comments.
With your son, you should sit down with him and tell him that he might not like the Liberal party, he might not like how they operate and such, but that doesn't give him the right to rip into the person who made the phone call and see how it goes from there.
Wednesday's Child said:
You could be right. Maybe all 17 year olds insult and swear at people they don't know on the phone and I'm just being a pain in the a$$ cause I think they shouldn't and find it odd that their parents would be proud of them for it.
I'm not saying anything about Greta's parenting. I'm saying I don't find rude and mean behavior funny. She posted it on a bb, responses are expected aren't they?
Yes, all 17 year olds do insult and swear at people. Where have you been? My child makes his own decisions, I have never given him a script.
yes, responses were expected.
yes, responses were expected.
GG
You offered all of us a glimpse of you and your son and have attracted more replies than other threads pending tomorrows "doomsday" election.
Don't worry be happy.
You offered all of us a glimpse of you and your son and have attracted more replies than other threads pending tomorrows "doomsday" election.
Don't worry be happy.
Like Wednesday's Child said, we're all a bunch
of chattering aunties !!!
LOL !!!
GreenGreta, I just assume you got the intuitive
right take on the matter.
We are the Chattering Aunties !!!
of chattering aunties !!!
LOL !!!
GreenGreta, I just assume you got the intuitive
right take on the matter.
We are the Chattering Aunties !!!
And the Chattering Aunties will be there for you
GreenGreta.
The Chattering Aunties will be there for you.
I'll pay Wednesday's Child for the royalties on that
phrase.
GreenGreta.
The Chattering Aunties will be there for you.
I'll pay Wednesday's Child for the royalties on that
phrase.
Re: RE: I just had to tell yo
Hmmmm ... wonder where my recent convo fits in then?? I had a call too:
ring ring
C: This is the Conservatives calling, can we count on your support on Monday?
S: Who? The Conservatives?????
C: Yes
S: Man, did you ring the wrong number! I'm a dyke. No, you can't count on my vote because you're homophobic and want to legislate against me. But thanks for calling anyway.
C: (Silence)
Seriously ... got that call this week. :thebirdman: :dontknow:
nitzomoe said:
Hmmmm ... wonder where my recent convo fits in then?? I had a call too:
ring ring
C: This is the Conservatives calling, can we count on your support on Monday?
S: Who? The Conservatives?????
C: Yes
S: Man, did you ring the wrong number! I'm a dyke. No, you can't count on my vote because you're homophobic and want to legislate against me. But thanks for calling anyway.
C: (Silence)
Seriously ... got that call this week. :thebirdman: :dontknow:
Let's see where to start...
Tracy, Jersay, Toro....
Yes it was rude....you guys are right.... I thought it was a hoot and I wish someone would phone me with a political message or two...
It would make my boring day doing washing! Please don't spin racism unless it is really there. You will wear out the serious implications by "crying wolf" too often. And yes Tracy - of course responses are appropriate - I've been making them all day.
JimMoyer
You may certainly use that expression - there are no intellectual properties attached - nothing from my head is intellectual !
GreenGreta
If you are ok with your son it takes courage....he is allowed to make mistakes in your world instead of being nagged until he forgets. We learn much faster making mistakes on our own instead of being warned about the future ones... which teenagers don't believe exists (the future I mean)....they are in the here and now.
I thought he was a hoot ... just as you wrote early this morning...
and your post gave us so much to talk about.
In sum
I still believe it wasn't racist no matter how you dress it up !! It was a young boy being rude...using swear words he is finding luxurious to say out loud in front of his mom... and like all of us he'll find out soon enough about being responsible and rather dull too because adults are inclined that way.
And Green Greta
I can't wait to see what you come up with tomorrow!
Tracy, Jersay, Toro....
Yes it was rude....you guys are right.... I thought it was a hoot and I wish someone would phone me with a political message or two...
It would make my boring day doing washing! Please don't spin racism unless it is really there. You will wear out the serious implications by "crying wolf" too often. And yes Tracy - of course responses are appropriate - I've been making them all day.
JimMoyer
You may certainly use that expression - there are no intellectual properties attached - nothing from my head is intellectual !
GreenGreta
If you are ok with your son it takes courage....he is allowed to make mistakes in your world instead of being nagged until he forgets. We learn much faster making mistakes on our own instead of being warned about the future ones... which teenagers don't believe exists (the future I mean)....they are in the here and now.
I thought he was a hoot ... just as you wrote early this morning...
and your post gave us so much to talk about.
In sum
I still believe it wasn't racist no matter how you dress it up !! It was a young boy being rude...using swear words he is finding luxurious to say out loud in front of his mom... and like all of us he'll find out soon enough about being responsible and rather dull too because adults are inclined that way.
And Green Greta
I can't wait to see what you come up with tomorrow!
Cosmo/ITN
You guys are having way too much fun with this....
I think I'm gonna go buy some ice cream! Chocolate!
You guys are having way too much fun with this....
I think I'm gonna go buy some ice cream! Chocolate!