I DON'T WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

Jo Canadian

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EagleSmack said:
But in a sense all Canadians wish they were Americans.

EH?? Well then thanks for informing me. I never knew that about myself...Ah feeel Mo Enlitened nauw.
 

EagleSmack

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Hank C Cheyenne said:
...it seems some Canadians feel a sence of pride in not being American.......I happen to believe it is "small man syndrome". First of all let me say that I am a born American living in Canada currenty and I have a good grasp of both countries.
......Canada likes to show the US that "we" are importiant by showing that they will not go along.....an example would be missile defence.....there was no reason for Canada to not be involved in missile defence...let me explain...

...the US did not want any money from Canada and they did not even want to build anything up here....but we said NO.....think about it, if a missile is launched at the US and it is over Canadian soil then the US WILL shoot it down.... now Canada was just offered a position at the table to say maybe where the missile should be shot down or maybe give suggestions that the missile should not be shot down on Canadian soil....but we choose not to be at the table....boggles the mind.....but W/E I think it is better for Washington if they don't have some whiny PM on the phone messing with matters....

BRAVO!

Little man syndrome... BRAVO BRAVO

So I hope Canada invests in some Fallout Raincoats.
 

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Well first you will have to hit your target...and ehm..go back to basic science class...we all know the defense system is a dud...only created for greenbacks for your corrupt government :wink:
 

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Hank C Cheyenne said:
::sigh::

Still following me around Rev.?

Just another prime example which once again proves me correct. You follow me like a puppy.

Once again Itell you to "shoo" insignificant one.

....lol you get used to it EagleSmack....I think he is a NDP recruiter...... :lol:

anyways we had another member ask the same questions 'bout Rev as you did...he actually thought that Rev was NDP software....lol ...here what he said:
It stands for 978289.5421837. Just trying to get the software to lock up and stop spitting out ridiculous, meaningless gibberish; usually within 10 minutes of any post in any forum, 24/7.

Too funny Hank. I really don't know what is with this guy. He follows me from topic to topic and calls me a troll. I show up here every so often to this forum and he is the first one to nip at my heels like a puppy who misses his master. The guy has been emailing me all morning and calls me a "stalker"!

But you are right on the money. It is little man syndrome. People like that are so insecure about themselves that they only feel good trying to put other people down.

Pathetic really. I sort of feel sorry for him.

Hey... I have a new message. I wonder who it is from. :lol:
 

GL Schmitt

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Hank C Cheyenne said:
...it seems some Canadians feel a sence of pride in not being American......
Actually, most times it is more like relief! :roll:
 

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Well I just saw a clip of a new weapon system that not only shoots down missles but artillery shells as well.

So sorry folks... it is called PROGRESS.

Trial and Error... Problem Solving.

If at first you don't succeed try, try again.

Another great quote from a Great American.

Someday we will be able to have their missles blow up as soon as they hit the button. Now THAT is a great weapon system.
 

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Not true..and you cannot believe everything you see a big boys either... :wink: You said you were in the miltrary, yet you don't seem to able to grasp that the so called missile defense system is a "dud". it could not hit the board side of a barn door, and how much does it cost the american taxpayers each time its tested?? bet you don't know that one either.
 

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BMD doesn't work. Physicists say it likely never will. There has never been a successful test, and there never will be.

That's okay with Bush and his gang of thugs though. Their real goal is to put nukes in orbit so they can shake down the entire world. Russia and China have signed a treaty saying that if the US puts weapons in space, so will they.

Thanks for making the world an even more dangerous space, Amerika.
 

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I bet it cost a heck of a lot of money. No arguements from me there Peapod.

Missle Defense is not a "dud". It needs to be worked on and perfected that is for sure. During the Civil War a rudementary machine gun (the first gatlin gun) was made and Union Generals refused to have it made en masse. They said it would never work. All weapons systems have bugs in them. Look at the first muskets and cannons. They were dangerous to even use.

The US will get it right.
 

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Not to mention....knock! knock! anybody home 8O
No missile shield will prevent terrorists from smuggling nuclear bombs into our cities and detonating them. I mean how dumb can you be :roll: :roll:
 

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Getting back to the original topic of the thread, I think it is fair to say that there are some Canadians who do admire the Americans a great deal and would like to emulate their successes.

It's only natural that one would want to achieve great success like those of other people.

I do not think though, that the majority of Canadians want to be American. Especially in recent times, we've seen so many ways that we are different from Americans, and thankfully so. Same-sex marriage, not going to the war in Iraq, a national budget that is in control, just to name a few key issues, are all (re)affirmations of why Canadians are so happy to be Canadian and not American.

The spread of American pop culture into Canada has had a strong effect on our culture. Due to the fact that foreign (American) companies own the distribution networks for movies and music, it's very difficult for Canadians to find success on their own turf. This inundation of American pop culture creates a sense of familiarity and similarity to those who created it, causing youth in particular to immitate American fashions. However, the world is waking up to how this creates greater Americanisation of local cultures, and has recently moved to protect culture from being considered a commodity subject to the usual fair trade rules. Hopefully, this will prevent American interference stopping our use of protectionist measures for our cultural products through organisations like the WTO. Read on:

UNESCO poised to protect cultural diversity
Canada is a key player at UNESCO headquarters in Paris this week, as the United Nations cultural agency is poised to enact a convention on protecting cultural diversity worldwide.

According to Heritage Minister Liza Frulla, Canada has been a key architect for the policy since 1998.

"Our efforts to get this convention adopted by member states of UNESCO are driven by our unshakeable commitment to protect and promote Canada's rich cultural diversity," Frulla said in a statement.

"We have to be able to identify ourselves as Canadians, to be able to present ourselves and to be able to sustain our creativity. This is a fundamental right," she told CBC News on Monday.

The goal of the proposed convention, formally titled the Convention on the Protection of the Diversity of Cultural Contents and Artistic Expressions, is to protect a nation's cultural diversity and its culture from any negative effects of globalization. It also seeks to promote a country's ethnic traditions and minority languages.

According to the draft text, cultural expressions are "distinctive" and countries should be allowed "to maintain, adopt, and implement policies and measures that they deem appropriate for the protection and promotion of the diversity of cultural expressions on their territory."

The member states of the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization overwhelmingly support the draft text, which has been in negotiation and amended for several years. However, vocal objections have come from the U.S., which rejoined the UN agency in 2003 after leaving almost two decades ago when it accused UNESCO of anti-American bias and corruption.

U.S. Ambassador to UNESCO Louise Oliver has complained about not having enough time to discuss the text, which she has called "ambiguous" and "open to wide misinterpretation," or to propose a series of further amendments.

"Under the provisions of the convention as drafted, any state, in the name of cultural diversity, might invoke the ambiguous provisions of this convention to try to assert a right to erect trade barriers to goods or services that are deemed to be cultural expressions," Oliver told the Associated Press.
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Further on:
The main concern from the U.S. is that if ratified, the convention could prove to be a barrier against U.S. cultural exports and drastically affect its powerhouse film, music and book industries.
 

Nascar_James

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sammyhusk said:
I came up to a guy in China and asked him if he was American. He shouted, "NO! I'm Canadian! So i pose this question to the forum: Why do Canadians not want to be like or be called American? Why do we care?

Speak for yourself. I am an ex-Canadian who is now a proud American.
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: I DON'T WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

EagleSmack said:
Well I just saw a clip of a new weapon system that not only shoots down missles but artillery shells as well.

So sorry folks... it is called PROGRESS.

Trial and Error... Problem Solving.

If at first you don't succeed try, try again.

Another great quote from a Great American.

Someday we will be able to have their missles blow up as soon as they hit the button. Now THAT is a great weapon system.

Yep, we are certainly working around the clock to perfect the missile defense program, EagleSmack. The Liberal government in Canada did not see it fit to join us on this program. This leaves us with less resource (manpower) to complete the program. There is some behind the scenes support from Canada but very little.

I wonder if the officials in Canada would change their tune if terrorists launch a nuclear missle at Canada and we are not able to shoot it down before it hits Canadian soil. This hypothetical and unfortunate event would be a direct result of Canada's lack of support on this program.

In using rational judgement, one fact is clear ... if terrorists had an opportunity (God forbid) to launch a nuclear missile aimed either at Canada or the US, they would very likely pick Canada. They know their chances of a successful hit is much greater if aiming for Canada vs the US.
 

unclepercy

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Hard-Luck Henry said:
THIS IS WHY!!!

U.S. public opinion

:evil: / :lol:

Oh, Henry. I could find 6 people - everyone of them - who would say you had a polka dot tongue. I do believe that younger Americans are worse in geography than older ones, simply because it was emphasized less in their schooling. But on the other hand, they probably know more on the average about computers than older people.

Unless they changed the name of the country in the last 10 years, I know just about every country in the world, and I DO NOT think North Korea is in Australia! Good grief. Nor is knowledge of geography the measure of IQ or manners.

Percy
 

Twila

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Why do Canadians not want to be like or be called American?

for the same reason Kiwi's don't want to be called Australians (and vis versa) and why Indians don't want to be called Pakistani (and vis versa) Why Catholics don't want to be called Protestants (and vis versa) Why Muslims don't want to be called Christians (and vis versa) We don't want to be called Americans because We're not. Pride in identity.
 

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Re: RE: I DON'T WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

EagleSmack said:
I bet it cost a heck of a lot of money. No arguements from me there Peapod.

Missle Defense is not a "dud". It needs to be worked on and perfected that is for sure. During the Civil War a rudementary machine gun (the first gatlin gun) was made and Union Generals refused to have it made en masse. They said it would never work. All weapons systems have bugs in them. Look at the first muskets and cannons. They were dangerous to even use.

The US will get it right.

I don't doubt that missile defense can eventually be effective. I'm skeptical about the true reason for its development, as you should. The actual threat of a 'rogue' country launching a nuclear missile at the US is infintesimally small. We're talking tens of billions if not hundreds. For that money massive investments in border security could be made, massive investments elsewhere in the US military....not to mention dozens of other worthwhile investments. Who really benefits from this money? Defense companies thats who.