Quite so. I believe they are called conservatives. One can only hope that eventually they will find their own road to extinction.
Humans decended from dinosaurs.
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Quite so. I believe they are called conservatives. One can only hope that eventually they will find their own road to extinction.
I believe this topic has descended into silly.
So far, what have humming beings come up with regarding our rise to the top of (at least in our own minds) food chain/evolutionary ladder? 1. Some invisible man created it all because he was bored, 2. Darwin's concept of evolution, 3. A quantum physics approach that says There is no matter just energy, so physical reality is just a hologram, 4. Aliens genetically modified early humanoids with their own DNA to create a hybrid human. And then there is 5. my little theory born of an early morning brain fart.
Beam me up Scotty, there is no intelligent life on this planet!
Do most humans even recognize that other forms of life are extremely intelligent? Would a hypothetical visiting alien species think we were closer to them in intelligence, or closer to the level of the other beasts which roam this planet? We are as smart as we need to be, as far as intellectual capacity goes, though some people seem to squander that gift.
While everyone else may have came from primeval ooze. I came from Velociraptor myself thank you.
Silly subject.
Is it any sillier than politics or professional wrestling? Does creationism or evolution make any more sense?
Evolution makes sense, and could probably contribute something to an explanation of certain aspects of politics and professional wrestling. Creationism is just wacko.
Evolution does make sense, but from my perspective, is too narrowly focused. Creationist are blinded by dogma and beliefs in fairy tales. Although I believe that there might have been some intelligent consciousness behind the big bang (somebody got their rocks off in a really big way!) I doubt that such an intelligence would be bothered by such an insignificant piece of dust as our planet. It is rather ironic that those who think there is no other intelligent life in the Universe, that we are somehow god's crowning glory of creation, seem to lack the ability for critical thought.
It's probably the most broadly applicable theory we have. Too narrowly focused on what, what's it not considering that it should?
Again, from my perspective, it is to narrowly focused on purely physical evidence.
Today, quantum science is beginning to bridge the gap between orthodox science and the ancient mystics view of things. I believe, in the not too distant future, the combo of the two will show a more complete picture. Many of the ancient writers were limited by language and perception to accurately portray what they were experiencing or observing so that what we read today sounds like mysticism and religious mumbo jumbo. But if we look at it as metaphor and allegory, we see scientific information couched in primitive language. I think when we open our minds up and stop looking at the ancients as primitive we might find that they were a lot smarter than we have been giving them credit for.
Only in the minds of modern mystics. Sounds like you've been taking seriously people like Deepak Chopra, Fritjof Capra and Gary Zukav, and stuff like the "What the Bleep Do We Know" movie. Google "quantum quackery" and read the first half a dozen returns. The complexity and counter-intuitive nature of quantum theory lend themselves to all kinds of bizarre misinterpretations, but the science is fully consistent with an objective physical reality that exists independently of and is not influenced by any mind's perceptions and desires.
No, I learned first hand from old indigenous spiritual elders and shaman. I don't expect you to understand that or acknowledge the validity of my experiences with them. I am just stating my view. I realize you have yours and although I disagree with it I would not denigrate your beliefs. I happen to know that human beliefs and disposition do influence outcomes, but I don't expect anybody else to.
I certainly wouldn't deny the validity of your experiences, obviously some significant things happened to you, and without knowing a whole lot more about what they were there's not much I can say about them. Recognize, however, that there were two things going on: things were happening to you, and you were interpreting them in a particular way. And now a third thing has happened: you're remembering them in a particular way long after the events, and memory is subject to editing and revision and reconstruction. If from that interpretation and memory you conclude that quantum theory is bridging the gap between orthodox science and a mystic's view of things, then I would argue that your interpretation is not correct and probably your memory isn't either, because quantum theory is not doing that. I'd immediately agree that human beliefs and dispositions influence outcomes, but that's because they affect how humans behave, not because there's some link between human consciousness and the behaviour of things at the quantum scale.
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yeah, I guess one's brain would consist of one molecule while the others would consist of a quarter of a molecule. Maybe I'll substitute rhinocerus for baboon. :smile:
Evolution makes a lot of sense.