Human / animal Hybrids.....it's true!

[Reverend Blair]

If you can honestly say you would be seeing the next Osama Bin Laden lying on the train track instead of a 3 year old stranger that is your prerogative.

Actually I was more afraid it would be the next George Bush.

I'm not avoiding the question at all. I am refusing to answer it because I don't feel it's a valid question. It's up there with that walk in the woods thing that supposed to reveal your personality. It doesn't work.

The answer we're supposed to give is pre-determined. I'm supposed to say, "The child,of course," and act all self-righteous about it. Since the "right" answer is so obvious, the question becomes redundant because you cannot determine if the answerer is telling the truth.

The answerer themselves cannot know for sure how they would react in that situation until it actually happens. You are asking people to intellectualize an emotional, instinctive action. There are plenty of cases where people saved animals instead of children because it was the reaction their body and primitive brain dictated.

 

[Reverend Blair]

If you can honestly say you would be seeing the next Osama Bin Laden lying on the train track instead of a 3 year old stranger that is your prerogative.

Actually I was more afraid it would be the next George Bush.

I'm not avoiding the question at all. I am refusing to answer it because I don't feel it's a valid question. It's up there with that walk in the woods thing that supposed to reveal your personality. It doesn't work.

The answer we're supposed to give is pre-determined. I'm supposed to say, "The child,of course," and act all self-righteous about it. Since the "right" answer is so obvious, the question becomes redundant because you cannot determine if the answerer is telling the truth.

The answerer themselves cannot know for sure how they would react in that situation until it actually happens. You are asking people to intellectualize an emotional, instinctive action. There are plenty of cases where people saved animals instead of children because it was the reaction their body and primitive brain dictated.

 

[Reverend Blair]

If you can honestly say you would be seeing the next Osama Bin Laden lying on the train track instead of a 3 year old stranger that is your prerogative.

Actually I was more afraid it would be the next George Bush.

I'm not avoiding the question at all. I am refusing to answer it because I don't feel it's a valid question. It's up there with that walk in the woods thing that supposed to reveal your personality. It doesn't work.

The answer we're supposed to give is pre-determined. I'm supposed to say, "The child,of course," and act all self-righteous about it. Since the "right" answer is so obvious, the question becomes redundant because you cannot determine if the answerer is telling the truth.

The answerer themselves cannot know for sure how they would react in that situation until it actually happens. You are asking people to intellectualize an emotional, instinctive action. There are plenty of cases where people saved animals instead of children because it was the reaction their body and primitive brain dictated.

 

[tibear]

Exactly, there is no right answer. Some people will choose to save their pet over the 3 year old. The question isn't a trick with an obvious right and wrong answer.

The question is one that puts a situation in front of them that forces them to validate their position regarding the true "value" they have of animal vs human.

The question is actually quite good because if the situation was a strange child and a strange animal almost without exception everyone will choose the child. Similarly, if the situation is of your own young child and your pet, again virtually everyone chooses their child. However, this situation places a strange child, for which the person has no emotional attachment versus a pet they've had for a long period of time. This situation is the only true test to see if your emotional attachment for the pet overrides your innate feelings of protecting children, even stranger children.

Your correct that you may never really know what you do if this real situation occurred but it does make you stop and think.

Its a question. That it.

 

[tibear]

Exactly, there is no right answer. Some people will choose to save their pet over the 3 year old. The question isn't a trick with an obvious right and wrong answer.

The question is one that puts a situation in front of them that forces them to validate their position regarding the true "value" they have of animal vs human.

The question is actually quite good because if the situation was a strange child and a strange animal almost without exception everyone will choose the child. Similarly, if the situation is of your own young child and your pet, again virtually everyone chooses their child. However, this situation places a strange child, for which the person has no emotional attachment versus a pet they've had for a long period of time. This situation is the only true test to see if your emotional attachment for the pet overrides your innate feelings of protecting children, even stranger children.

Your correct that you may never really know what you do if this real situation occurred but it does make you stop and think.

Its a question. That it.

 

[tibear]

Exactly, there is no right answer. Some people will choose to save their pet over the 3 year old. The question isn't a trick with an obvious right and wrong answer.

The question is one that puts a situation in front of them that forces them to validate their position regarding the true "value" they have of animal vs human.

The question is actually quite good because if the situation was a strange child and a strange animal almost without exception everyone will choose the child. Similarly, if the situation is of your own young child and your pet, again virtually everyone chooses their child. However, this situation places a strange child, for which the person has no emotional attachment versus a pet they've had for a long period of time. This situation is the only true test to see if your emotional attachment for the pet overrides your innate feelings of protecting children, even stranger children.

Your correct that you may never really know what you do if this real situation occurred but it does make you stop and think.

Its a question. That it.

 

[LadyC]

I don't think you read the Rev's answer, tibear. He said it's a nonsensical question because there is only one "right" answer. YOu already said if people refuse to answer it's because they're afraid it'll make them look bad.

The so-called loopholes were more a way of making fun or your question. It doesn't reveal anything... like the Rev said, we all know "the right answer", whether it's what we'd do or not.

I never took philosophy - I've already said that - because of questions like this. You go round and round and round and achieve nothing.

You want my real answer? I'd probably save neither of them. When I'm truly scared, I freeze.

But I still say the question isn't a good one. The "right" answer is too obvious. It doesn't challenge my beliefs at all.

 

[LadyC]

I don't think you read the Rev's answer, tibear. He said it's a nonsensical question because there is only one "right" answer. YOu already said if people refuse to answer it's because they're afraid it'll make them look bad.

The so-called loopholes were more a way of making fun or your question. It doesn't reveal anything... like the Rev said, we all know "the right answer", whether it's what we'd do or not.

I never took philosophy - I've already said that - because of questions like this. You go round and round and round and achieve nothing.

You want my real answer? I'd probably save neither of them. When I'm truly scared, I freeze.

But I still say the question isn't a good one. The "right" answer is too obvious. It doesn't challenge my beliefs at all.

 

[LadyC]

I don't think you read the Rev's answer, tibear. He said it's a nonsensical question because there is only one "right" answer. YOu already said if people refuse to answer it's because they're afraid it'll make them look bad.

The so-called loopholes were more a way of making fun or your question. It doesn't reveal anything... like the Rev said, we all know "the right answer", whether it's what we'd do or not.

I never took philosophy - I've already said that - because of questions like this. You go round and round and round and achieve nothing.

You want my real answer? I'd probably save neither of them. When I'm truly scared, I freeze.

But I still say the question isn't a good one. The "right" answer is too obvious. It doesn't challenge my beliefs at all.

 

[tibear]

LadyC,

Why do you say there is an obvious "right" answer??

Are you implying that any "normal" person should automatically pick the child or the pet?

I will admit, that almost everyone that answers the question does in fact pick the child and those who say they would pick their pet say that they felt that they picked the "wrong" answer.

However, even saying that, the question isn't put forward to put someone into a bad light. If they truly believe that their pet is more valuable to them then a 3 year old stranger then that is their answer.

How else can you check to see if a person really believes that animals and humans are equal unless you put forth a question that challenges them??

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes???

 

[tibear]

LadyC,

Why do you say there is an obvious "right" answer??

Are you implying that any "normal" person should automatically pick the child or the pet?

I will admit, that almost everyone that answers the question does in fact pick the child and those who say they would pick their pet say that they felt that they picked the "wrong" answer.

However, even saying that, the question isn't put forward to put someone into a bad light. If they truly believe that their pet is more valuable to them then a 3 year old stranger then that is their answer.

How else can you check to see if a person really believes that animals and humans are equal unless you put forth a question that challenges them??

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes???

 

[tibear]

LadyC,

Why do you say there is an obvious "right" answer??

Are you implying that any "normal" person should automatically pick the child or the pet?

I will admit, that almost everyone that answers the question does in fact pick the child and those who say they would pick their pet say that they felt that they picked the "wrong" answer.

However, even saying that, the question isn't put forward to put someone into a bad light. If they truly believe that their pet is more valuable to them then a 3 year old stranger then that is their answer.

How else can you check to see if a person really believes that animals and humans are equal unless you put forth a question that challenges them??

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes???

 

[peapod]

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes???

What is the purpose of this question?? What are you trying to accomplish by asking?? What is the hiddening meaning of the question?? Has the turkey in question ever eaten marigolds that have been effected by gamma rays?? Answer the question!!

 

[peapod]

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes???

What is the purpose of this question?? What are you trying to accomplish by asking?? What is the hiddening meaning of the question?? Has the turkey in question ever eaten marigolds that have been effected by gamma rays?? Answer the question!!

 

[peapod]

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes???

What is the purpose of this question?? What are you trying to accomplish by asking?? What is the hiddening meaning of the question?? Has the turkey in question ever eaten marigolds that have been effected by gamma rays?? Answer the question!!

 

[tibear]

peapod,

The purpose of the question is because most people don't think of turkeys when they think of pets!!

People who treat their pets as family take great offense to those who don't share the love they have for their "children".

What I'm trying to present is a scenario where in all likelihood, the pet lover will NOT want to have someone else's "children" in their homes. In this way, they will have a different perspective on the way others view their animals. Similar to when schools have students be blind or deaf for a day so that they get a different perspective. It provides an opportunity for others to see things through someone else's eyes.

I will admit, the uncle was a little odd.(He was married to my mother's sister). It became so bad that we no longer went over to their place until my aunt had the turkeys "removed". Who knows maybe that was his way of keeping others away!!

 

[tibear]

peapod,

The purpose of the question is because most people don't think of turkeys when they think of pets!!

People who treat their pets as family take great offense to those who don't share the love they have for their "children".

What I'm trying to present is a scenario where in all likelihood, the pet lover will NOT want to have someone else's "children" in their homes. In this way, they will have a different perspective on the way others view their animals. Similar to when schools have students be blind or deaf for a day so that they get a different perspective. It provides an opportunity for others to see things through someone else's eyes.

I will admit, the uncle was a little odd.(He was married to my mother's sister). It became so bad that we no longer went over to their place until my aunt had the turkeys "removed". Who knows maybe that was his way of keeping others away!!

 

[tibear]

peapod,

The purpose of the question is because most people don't think of turkeys when they think of pets!!

People who treat their pets as family take great offense to those who don't share the love they have for their "children".

What I'm trying to present is a scenario where in all likelihood, the pet lover will NOT want to have someone else's "children" in their homes. In this way, they will have a different perspective on the way others view their animals. Similar to when schools have students be blind or deaf for a day so that they get a different perspective. It provides an opportunity for others to see things through someone else's eyes.

I will admit, the uncle was a little odd.(He was married to my mother's sister). It became so bad that we no longer went over to their place until my aunt had the turkeys "removed". Who knows maybe that was his way of keeping others away!!

 

[Twila]

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes??? Smile

I'd let your uncle bring his turkeys IF they were potty trained.

Is it possible to potty train a turkey?

 

[Twila]

BTW, I still haven't heard anyone willing to have my uncles turkeys running around in their homes??? Smile

I'd let your uncle bring his turkeys IF they were potty trained.

Is it possible to potty train a turkey?