Human / animal Hybrids.....it's true!

zenfisher

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Of course I wouldn't be analyzing the situation. As I mentioned first of all. You would save the one you are closest to, in hopes that you might be able to save the second one.

The question itself, is too black & white. All I am trying to point out is that there are many variables. Even within circumstances involving seemingly polar opposites.

Let's take Thanksgiving as an example. The gods must be smiling on us for our bountiful harvest and all that jazz. Yes we must be especially favoured by them. We are good.

The turkey's, however, might have a different view of us. We must be evil. Here we are fattening their friends and family up only to lop off their heads and eat them for dinner. (Having watched all my Dad's turkeys drown themselves because they thought they were ducks...I know they really aren't capable of thoughts like that...but humour me.)

The paradox is in that one meal we are viewed as good and evil. In reality, it is a matter of our need to survive.(granted lavishly) In most cases life does not offer a simple black or white answer.

Peapod...How do we know that Minnie and Pete aren't having an affair and this was some sort of strange bondage ritual ? Could this been an attempt by Mickey & Minnie to spice up their marriage? Tune in tomorrow...same mouse time...same mouse channel.

Rev... good song. you know of my affinity for trains...
 

zenfisher

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Of course I wouldn't be analyzing the situation. As I mentioned first of all. You would save the one you are closest to, in hopes that you might be able to save the second one.

The question itself, is too black & white. All I am trying to point out is that there are many variables. Even within circumstances involving seemingly polar opposites.

Let's take Thanksgiving as an example. The gods must be smiling on us for our bountiful harvest and all that jazz. Yes we must be especially favoured by them. We are good.

The turkey's, however, might have a different view of us. We must be evil. Here we are fattening their friends and family up only to lop off their heads and eat them for dinner. (Having watched all my Dad's turkeys drown themselves because they thought they were ducks...I know they really aren't capable of thoughts like that...but humour me.)

The paradox is in that one meal we are viewed as good and evil. In reality, it is a matter of our need to survive.(granted lavishly) In most cases life does not offer a simple black or white answer.

Peapod...How do we know that Minnie and Pete aren't having an affair and this was some sort of strange bondage ritual ? Could this been an attempt by Mickey & Minnie to spice up their marriage? Tune in tomorrow...same mouse time...same mouse channel.

Rev... good song. you know of my affinity for trains...
 

tibear

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Zen,

quick question. Are you a parent??

I really think that once a person becomes a parent their perspective changes a bit with regard to how they treat their pets.
 

tibear

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Zen,

quick question. Are you a parent??

I really think that once a person becomes a parent their perspective changes a bit with regard to how they treat their pets.
 

tibear

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Zen,

quick question. Are you a parent??

I really think that once a person becomes a parent their perspective changes a bit with regard to how they treat their pets.
 

zenfisher

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No, because the world is overpopulated, I have a chosen not to have children.

I, agree being a parent does influence how you would answer the question.But by the same token...the problem equates an animal that I have a history with and love, to a strangers child.

I would still look at the problem with placing the importance on which was closer (Physically) to me and which afforded me the opportunity to save both. In a crisis situation, that would be the true determining factor on which one I would chose to save.
 

zenfisher

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No, because the world is overpopulated, I have a chosen not to have children.

I, agree being a parent does influence how you would answer the question.But by the same token...the problem equates an animal that I have a history with and love, to a strangers child.

I would still look at the problem with placing the importance on which was closer (Physically) to me and which afforded me the opportunity to save both. In a crisis situation, that would be the true determining factor on which one I would chose to save.
 

zenfisher

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No, because the world is overpopulated, I have a chosen not to have children.

I, agree being a parent does influence how you would answer the question.But by the same token...the problem equates an animal that I have a history with and love, to a strangers child.

I would still look at the problem with placing the importance on which was closer (Physically) to me and which afforded me the opportunity to save both. In a crisis situation, that would be the true determining factor on which one I would chose to save.
 

Twila

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RE: Human / animal Hybrid

How does being or not being a parent change it? ( a truly curious question, nothing sly meant by it)
 

Twila

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RE: Human / animal Hybrid

How does being or not being a parent change it? ( a truly curious question, nothing sly meant by it)
 

Twila

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RE: Human / animal Hybrid

How does being or not being a parent change it? ( a truly curious question, nothing sly meant by it)
 

zenfisher

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I think, the reasoning would be... how would you feel ,if someone didn't do everything in your power to save your child. Which I understand...but as I have mentioned, I would have to question, why their child was on the tracks to begin with ?
Even though I don't have children...if it came to a choice between my child or my pet...I would save my child. it is only natural to protect your own children.
That being said...Why should I sacrafice something that I love for this parent's negligence ? Should I sacrafice my pet, for the "sanctity "of human life? Even if the parents, don't seem to value this child's life. For if they did, he/she would not be cruising down the tracks headlong into trains. I can sympathize with the parent's feelings, but I don't know that I would place a priority on saving their child's life over a beloved pet.
 

zenfisher

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I think, the reasoning would be... how would you feel ,if someone didn't do everything in your power to save your child. Which I understand...but as I have mentioned, I would have to question, why their child was on the tracks to begin with ?
Even though I don't have children...if it came to a choice between my child or my pet...I would save my child. it is only natural to protect your own children.
That being said...Why should I sacrafice something that I love for this parent's negligence ? Should I sacrafice my pet, for the "sanctity "of human life? Even if the parents, don't seem to value this child's life. For if they did, he/she would not be cruising down the tracks headlong into trains. I can sympathize with the parent's feelings, but I don't know that I would place a priority on saving their child's life over a beloved pet.
 

zenfisher

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I think, the reasoning would be... how would you feel ,if someone didn't do everything in your power to save your child. Which I understand...but as I have mentioned, I would have to question, why their child was on the tracks to begin with ?
Even though I don't have children...if it came to a choice between my child or my pet...I would save my child. it is only natural to protect your own children.
That being said...Why should I sacrafice something that I love for this parent's negligence ? Should I sacrafice my pet, for the "sanctity "of human life? Even if the parents, don't seem to value this child's life. For if they did, he/she would not be cruising down the tracks headlong into trains. I can sympathize with the parent's feelings, but I don't know that I would place a priority on saving their child's life over a beloved pet.
 

tibear

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Being a parent, changes your perspective. Up until that time, your world really revolves only you. You do things only you wish to do.
However, when your a parent(a good parent) you are no longer #1 but #2. You have to do things you don't really want to do but do because of the love you have for your children.(Who really wants to get up 5 times a night!!)
The big difference between being a parent and a pet owner is that a parent will do absolutely anything for their child. They truly will put themselves in harms way to save their child.

A example of how a person changes is when a couple has a child and find out that the child is allergic to a pet that the couple has. The couple will almost certainly get rid of the pet so that they can have a healthy child. They may simply give the pet to family or friends but the pet doesn't live in their house any longer.

zenfisher, your comment that is world is overpopulated is one of the great myths. There is certainly more than enough room for everyone on this earth. If your talking about food, there is certainly enough for everyone as well, only we don't share very well. If the poor countries don't have the money to pay for the food they simply don't get. Just my two cents.
 

tibear

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Being a parent, changes your perspective. Up until that time, your world really revolves only you. You do things only you wish to do.
However, when your a parent(a good parent) you are no longer #1 but #2. You have to do things you don't really want to do but do because of the love you have for your children.(Who really wants to get up 5 times a night!!)
The big difference between being a parent and a pet owner is that a parent will do absolutely anything for their child. They truly will put themselves in harms way to save their child.

A example of how a person changes is when a couple has a child and find out that the child is allergic to a pet that the couple has. The couple will almost certainly get rid of the pet so that they can have a healthy child. They may simply give the pet to family or friends but the pet doesn't live in their house any longer.

zenfisher, your comment that is world is overpopulated is one of the great myths. There is certainly more than enough room for everyone on this earth. If your talking about food, there is certainly enough for everyone as well, only we don't share very well. If the poor countries don't have the money to pay for the food they simply don't get. Just my two cents.
 

tibear

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Being a parent, changes your perspective. Up until that time, your world really revolves only you. You do things only you wish to do.
However, when your a parent(a good parent) you are no longer #1 but #2. You have to do things you don't really want to do but do because of the love you have for your children.(Who really wants to get up 5 times a night!!)
The big difference between being a parent and a pet owner is that a parent will do absolutely anything for their child. They truly will put themselves in harms way to save their child.

A example of how a person changes is when a couple has a child and find out that the child is allergic to a pet that the couple has. The couple will almost certainly get rid of the pet so that they can have a healthy child. They may simply give the pet to family or friends but the pet doesn't live in their house any longer.

zenfisher, your comment that is world is overpopulated is one of the great myths. There is certainly more than enough room for everyone on this earth. If your talking about food, there is certainly enough for everyone as well, only we don't share very well. If the poor countries don't have the money to pay for the food they simply don't get. Just my two cents.
 

missile

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That goes for the human/animal hybrids,too. I'd definitely save a human before one of them. And between saving an animal or a child,the child first and foremost.
 

missile

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That goes for the human/animal hybrids,too. I'd definitely save a human before one of them. And between saving an animal or a child,the child first and foremost.
 

missile

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That goes for the human/animal hybrids,too. I'd definitely save a human before one of them. And between saving an animal or a child,the child first and foremost.