Human / animal Hybrids.....it's true!

LadyC

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tibear...
You were one of those kids that asked their mother who she liked best, weren't you?

The point is... asking a silly question about train tracks doesn't reveal any insight. Nor does it make one stop and think about their beliefs.

It makes me want to come up with the stupidest most irrelevant answer possible.

Peapod, too, apparently. :D
 

LadyC

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tibear...
You were one of those kids that asked their mother who she liked best, weren't you?

The point is... asking a silly question about train tracks doesn't reveal any insight. Nor does it make one stop and think about their beliefs.

It makes me want to come up with the stupidest most irrelevant answer possible.

Peapod, too, apparently. :D
 

zenfisher

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tibear... I have some questions. Why would you only be able to save one? If the train is that close and moving that fast...the likelyhood is that you would be unable to save either.

If the train was close enough that you could save only one. You would save the one that is farthest away from the point of impact. If you try to save the first one, in all likelyhood you would suffer the same fate. Not to mention if you don't succeed in rescueing the first one, the chances of saving the second one beome much narrower. If you save the one that is farthest away, you increase your chance of actually achieving a rescue.

Is there a switch on the track? If there is a switch on the track...you may be able to divert the train from hitting either.

How far apart are the animal and the child on the track? Who are you closer too? How fast can you run? Is the sun at your back or in your face? What are you doing on a set of tracks when there is a train coming?

My point being...what seems to be a very straight forward, black & white question, has many variables, which can influence whom one might chose to save. Especially at a heightened moment of panic.
 

zenfisher

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tibear... I have some questions. Why would you only be able to save one? If the train is that close and moving that fast...the likelyhood is that you would be unable to save either.

If the train was close enough that you could save only one. You would save the one that is farthest away from the point of impact. If you try to save the first one, in all likelyhood you would suffer the same fate. Not to mention if you don't succeed in rescueing the first one, the chances of saving the second one beome much narrower. If you save the one that is farthest away, you increase your chance of actually achieving a rescue.

Is there a switch on the track? If there is a switch on the track...you may be able to divert the train from hitting either.

How far apart are the animal and the child on the track? Who are you closer too? How fast can you run? Is the sun at your back or in your face? What are you doing on a set of tracks when there is a train coming?

My point being...what seems to be a very straight forward, black & white question, has many variables, which can influence whom one might chose to save. Especially at a heightened moment of panic.
 

zenfisher

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tibear... I have some questions. Why would you only be able to save one? If the train is that close and moving that fast...the likelyhood is that you would be unable to save either.

If the train was close enough that you could save only one. You would save the one that is farthest away from the point of impact. If you try to save the first one, in all likelyhood you would suffer the same fate. Not to mention if you don't succeed in rescueing the first one, the chances of saving the second one beome much narrower. If you save the one that is farthest away, you increase your chance of actually achieving a rescue.

Is there a switch on the track? If there is a switch on the track...you may be able to divert the train from hitting either.

How far apart are the animal and the child on the track? Who are you closer too? How fast can you run? Is the sun at your back or in your face? What are you doing on a set of tracks when there is a train coming?

My point being...what seems to be a very straight forward, black & white question, has many variables, which can influence whom one might chose to save. Especially at a heightened moment of panic.
 

tibear

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zenfisher, LadyC, peapod,

I congratulate you all on completely missing the point of the whole exercise.

From the response you all have to being challenged on your beliefs, I take it none of you have taken a philosophy or theology course. Where the whole premise of the course is to make to stop and think about what it is you truly believe.

However, instead of thinking, you spend your time looking for "loopholes" in the question and trying to avoid the question.

LadyC, no I never asked my mother which child she loved more. Because it wouldn't mean anything. I can tell you that she loved all of children more than any pet she ever owned.

As I'm stated earlier, anyone with a belief system with cannot withstand a challenge isn't worth a whole lot. I'm not saying that when someone asks you a question regarding your beliefs that you can scientifically prove every little aspect of it, however, you should be able to handle the asking of the question and respond to it with how you truly feel.

For example, people who believe in a supreme being have a very difficult time proving scientifically that "God" exists to non-believers, however, they should be able to have a conversation with a non-believer as to why "they" believe that "God" exists within their life.

Just my two cents on the matter.
 

tibear

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zenfisher, LadyC, peapod,

I congratulate you all on completely missing the point of the whole exercise.

From the response you all have to being challenged on your beliefs, I take it none of you have taken a philosophy or theology course. Where the whole premise of the course is to make to stop and think about what it is you truly believe.

However, instead of thinking, you spend your time looking for "loopholes" in the question and trying to avoid the question.

LadyC, no I never asked my mother which child she loved more. Because it wouldn't mean anything. I can tell you that she loved all of children more than any pet she ever owned.

As I'm stated earlier, anyone with a belief system with cannot withstand a challenge isn't worth a whole lot. I'm not saying that when someone asks you a question regarding your beliefs that you can scientifically prove every little aspect of it, however, you should be able to handle the asking of the question and respond to it with how you truly feel.

For example, people who believe in a supreme being have a very difficult time proving scientifically that "God" exists to non-believers, however, they should be able to have a conversation with a non-believer as to why "they" believe that "God" exists within their life.

Just my two cents on the matter.
 

tibear

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zenfisher, LadyC, peapod,

I congratulate you all on completely missing the point of the whole exercise.

From the response you all have to being challenged on your beliefs, I take it none of you have taken a philosophy or theology course. Where the whole premise of the course is to make to stop and think about what it is you truly believe.

However, instead of thinking, you spend your time looking for "loopholes" in the question and trying to avoid the question.

LadyC, no I never asked my mother which child she loved more. Because it wouldn't mean anything. I can tell you that she loved all of children more than any pet she ever owned.

As I'm stated earlier, anyone with a belief system with cannot withstand a challenge isn't worth a whole lot. I'm not saying that when someone asks you a question regarding your beliefs that you can scientifically prove every little aspect of it, however, you should be able to handle the asking of the question and respond to it with how you truly feel.

For example, people who believe in a supreme being have a very difficult time proving scientifically that "God" exists to non-believers, however, they should be able to have a conversation with a non-believer as to why "they" believe that "God" exists within their life.

Just my two cents on the matter.
 

missile

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I can understand why we love dogs,cats, birds and fish.it's those who have boas and pythons I find to be weird. Do you suppose they"ll get around to cloning a dinosaur anytime soon?
 

missile

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I can understand why we love dogs,cats, birds and fish.it's those who have boas and pythons I find to be weird. Do you suppose they"ll get around to cloning a dinosaur anytime soon?
 

missile

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I can understand why we love dogs,cats, birds and fish.it's those who have boas and pythons I find to be weird. Do you suppose they"ll get around to cloning a dinosaur anytime soon?
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Human / animal Hybrid

It's unlikely that they'll find any viable dinosaur DNA, Missile. They will likely clone a mammoth or mastadon at some point, and possibly one or two species of sabre tooth cat.

Tibear...we live in a world where men who profess to be very religious routinely call for the murder of children. In such a world is your example of the train tracks not rather redundant? One could easily reason that it's better to save the animal because it is most unlikely to become a military leader at any point in the future.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Human / animal Hybrid

It's unlikely that they'll find any viable dinosaur DNA, Missile. They will likely clone a mammoth or mastadon at some point, and possibly one or two species of sabre tooth cat.

Tibear...we live in a world where men who profess to be very religious routinely call for the murder of children. In such a world is your example of the train tracks not rather redundant? One could easily reason that it's better to save the animal because it is most unlikely to become a military leader at any point in the future.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Human / animal Hybrid

It's unlikely that they'll find any viable dinosaur DNA, Missile. They will likely clone a mammoth or mastadon at some point, and possibly one or two species of sabre tooth cat.

Tibear...we live in a world where men who profess to be very religious routinely call for the murder of children. In such a world is your example of the train tracks not rather redundant? One could easily reason that it's better to save the animal because it is most unlikely to become a military leader at any point in the future.
 

tibear

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RB,

If you can honestly say you would be seeing the next Osama Bin Laden lying on the train track instead of a 3 year old stranger that is your prerogative.

However, I believe the scenario is you have but split seconds to make up your mind, the 3 year stranger or your 10 year old pet. You can only save one, which one do you grab for?

I've received alot of grieve over this question, but I must admit it isn't my question, it was a question asked a long time ago in one of my university courses. All of your comments are very familiar because many students also tried doing the same thing until they finally realized all they were doing was avoiding the question.
 

tibear

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RB,

If you can honestly say you would be seeing the next Osama Bin Laden lying on the train track instead of a 3 year old stranger that is your prerogative.

However, I believe the scenario is you have but split seconds to make up your mind, the 3 year stranger or your 10 year old pet. You can only save one, which one do you grab for?

I've received alot of grieve over this question, but I must admit it isn't my question, it was a question asked a long time ago in one of my university courses. All of your comments are very familiar because many students also tried doing the same thing until they finally realized all they were doing was avoiding the question.
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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RB,

If you can honestly say you would be seeing the next Osama Bin Laden lying on the train track instead of a 3 year old stranger that is your prerogative.

However, I believe the scenario is you have but split seconds to make up your mind, the 3 year stranger or your 10 year old pet. You can only save one, which one do you grab for?

I've received alot of grieve over this question, but I must admit it isn't my question, it was a question asked a long time ago in one of my university courses. All of your comments are very familiar because many students also tried doing the same thing until they finally realized all they were doing was avoiding the question.