Hudak got off too easy for his role in Ontario’s budget crisis

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Hudak got off too easy for his role in Ontario’s budget crisis

As Ontario teetered on the brink of its second election in less than a year, attention was squarely focused on the public spat between Dalton McGuinty and Andrea Horwath.

But to understand why the province’s minority legislature is still very much on borrowed time, even after a summer campaign appears to have been narrowly avoided, there’s no getting past the role of the party leader who actively avoided the spotlight during the past week.

For all that Mr. McGuinty’s Liberals and Ms. Horwath’s New Democrats have at various points been guilty of bluster and false bravado and overplaying their respective hands, it’s Tim Hudak’s Progressive Conservatives who are most responsible for this legislature’s dysfunction.


Faced with a $15-billion deficit, Mr. McGuinty has decided that he needs to adopt a relatively fiscally conservative agenda. That should leave him looking to find common ground with the right-of-centre Tories. But because they’ve shown very little interest in engaging, he instead has to keep tilting left to appease the NDP. And the more that becomes obvious to the New Democrats, the more they keep pushing him away from what he wants to do, and toward impasses.

This situation began to play itself out around the tabling of Finance Minister Dwight Duncan’s budget this spring. Although the Tories now insist otherwise, it was obvious to most anyone around Queen’s Park that they had no intention of voting for it, no matter what was in it. That meant the Liberals had to table a document the NDP could conceivably be willing to support, then add various concessions – most notably a tax increase on the highest income earners – in order to get the budget motion passed in April.

But only last Thursday did it become clear just how much the Tories are prepared to set aside their own policy goals, if it makes the Liberals’ lives more difficult.

That was when the NDP used the finance committee to introduce a series of amendments in advance of the final vote on the budget bill. By the account of their own officials, the New Democrats never expected to get support from the other parties for removing privatization mechanisms or a slight toughening of arbitration rules from the legislation; it was just supposed to be a harmless way to play to their union supporters, and cut into some of the Liberals’ organized-labour support. What they hadn’t counted on was that the Tories would vote with them.

Days later, Mr. Hudak’s officials and MPPs would argue that the components they helped remove from the budget were actually left-wing policies masquerading as fiscally conservative ones. It would be fairer to say the policies went somewhat in the direction the Tories would want, just not far enough. And the simplest explanation for how they voted is that they saw an opportunity to embarrass the Liberals, and took advantage of it.

In a sense, it worked. Mr. McGuinty proceeded to overreact, crying wolf with an election threat he wasn’t prepared to follow through on. The Liberals and New Democrats then spent several days arguing publicly about what their original budget deal had entailed, and whether or not the NDP has broken a promise. Suffice it to say neither the Premier nor Ms. Horwath came off particularly well.

But Mr. Hudak’s conduct was embarrassing in a different way. In the midst of a legitimate budget crisis, he stayed as far as possible from Queen’s Park. Although he had no less a hand in this mess than Mr. McGuinty or Ms. Horwath, he was Tweeting about what he had for lunch while they were trying to sort it out. In one of the stranger moments of a strange week, he issued a statement from afar that more or less lamented that the other two leaders weren’t getting along.

It can be debated whether or not this was smart strategy. On one hand, he got less negative coverage the past few days than his counterparts, and Mr. McGuinty’s posturing might have sowed a little dissent in Liberal ranks. On the other, it didn’t exactly enhance Mr. Hudak’s efforts to rebrand himself as a more serious leader than the one we saw during last fall’s election campaign, and he may have made it easier for Mr. McGuinty to argue that he needs voters in a coming by-election to hand him a majority.

What’s more straightforward is that, unless and until he forms government, Mr. Hudak is currently making the least productive contribution of the province’s three leaders. While they may have let their egos get the better of them in nearly marching the province over a cliff, Mr. McGuinty and Ms. Horwath at least did so in a way that was consistent with their views of how the government should be run. That’s a pretty low bar, but Mr. Hudak would have had a hard time explaining how he met it, if he’d bothered accepting ownership of the situation at all.

Hudak got off too easy for his role in Ontario
 

Nuggler

kind and gentle
Feb 27, 2006
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Not too often does one see the Globe and Mail, that bastion of the cons, engage in con bashing. Refreshing, if nothing else.

Time for Hooodat to engage in genuine good governance, and try to help the province out of the quagmire his mentor Harris helped to create.

Never happen.
 

Liberalman

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When I heard when the leader of the Ontario NDP was backing out of her deal my very first thought was a hotel room with a bed. I am glad the NDP leader came to her senses and not force an election.
 

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Canada's wannabe Teabagger at it again as he spouts about selling off Ontarios long term money makers for a one time gain..............



One day after calling for Queen’s Park to get out of the day-to-day operation of gambling, Tory Leader Tim Hudak is expected to say Tuesday it’s time to end the government’s stranglehold on the sale of alcohol.

“I am having a press conference (Tuesday) around the future of retailing alcohol in our province,” Hudak told reporters Monday, adding that tough decisions are needed to help dig Ontario out of its $14.4 billion deficit.

OLG last year generated almost $4 billion in economic activity and handed almost $1.7 billion over to the province for hospitals and other programs.

$1.63 billionDividend the LCBO transferred to the Government of Ontario for 2011-12


Private liquor and gambling? Ontario PC Leader Tim Hudak seeks end to LCBO, OLG monopolies - thestar.com


Reaminder............


Tim Hudak Lost « qpcomment
 

tay

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Ontario Libs stickhandle past Hudaks call for convenience of purchase on booze


Ontario shoppers will soon be able to grab a six-pack and a bottle of wine or liquor along with their groceries as the LCBO opens 10 “express” stores in supermarkets, Finance Minister Dwight Duncan said Monday.

The new concept is part of a pilot project that will also see five new boutiques within liquor stores to better promote Ontario’s VQA wines, Duncan added.

The LCBO changes, in the works for some time, blunt Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak’s recent promise for beer and wine in corner stores.

“We think this is an important step forward,” said Duncan, who described the new “express” stores as similar to the LCBO outlet that used to be in the Loblaw’s complex on Queen’s Quay at Jarvis St. on the Toronto waterfront.


more


LCBO to open wine, liquor stores in some supermarkets - thestar.com
 

taxslave

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Canada's wannabe Teabagger at it again as he spouts about selling off Ontarios long term money makers for a one time gain..............



One day after calling for Queen’s Park to get out of the day-to-day operation of gambling, Tory Leader Tim Hudak is expected to say Tuesday it’s time to end the government’s stranglehold on the sale of alcohol.

“I am having a press conference (Tuesday) around the future of retailing alcohol in our province,” Hudak told reporters Monday, adding that tough decisions are needed to help dig Ontario out of its $14.4 billion deficit.

OLG last year generated almost $4 billion in economic activity and handed almost $1.7 billion over to the province for hospitals and other programs.

$1.63 billionDividend the LCBO transferred to the Government of Ontario for 2011-12


Private liquor and gambling? Ontario PC Leader Tim Hudak seeks end to LCBO, OLG monopolies - thestar.com


Reaminder............


Tim Hudak Lost « qpcomment

There is good reason to get governments out of the retail booze business aside from the excessive wage and bennies their employees get. The government will still make the same or more money from sales. BC is slowly working in the same direction. The government unions of course think that this is the worst possible move and spread lots of BS about it.
 

Trex

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Hudak got off too easy for his role in Ontario’s budget crisis

As Ontario teetered on the brink of its second election in less than a year, attention was squarely focused on the public spat between Dalton McGuinty and Andrea Horwath.

But to understand why the province’s minority legislature is still very much on borrowed time, even after a summer campaign appears to have been narrowly avoided, there’s no getting past the role of the party leader who actively avoided the spotlight during the past week.

For all that Mr. McGuinty’s Liberals and Ms. Horwath’s New Democrats have at various points been guilty of bluster and false bravado and overplaying their respective hands, it’s Tim Hudak’s Progressive Conservatives who are most responsible for this legislature’s dysfunction.


Faced with a $15-billion deficit, Mr. McGuinty has decided that he needs to adopt a relatively fiscally conservative agenda. That should leave him looking to find common ground with the right-of-centre Tories. But because they’ve shown very little interest in engaging, he instead has to keep tilting left to appease the NDP. And the more that becomes obvious to the New Democrats, the more they keep pushing him away from what he wants to do, and toward impasses.

This situation began to play itself out around the tabling of Finance Minister Dwight Duncan’s budget this spring. Although the Tories now insist otherwise, it was obvious to most anyone around Queen’s Park that they had no intention of voting for it, no matter what was in it. That meant the Liberals had to table a document the NDP could conceivably be willing to support, then add various concessions – most notably a tax increase on the highest income earners – in order to get the budget motion passed in April.

But only last Thursday did it become clear just how much the Tories are prepared to set aside their own policy goals, if it makes the Liberals’ lives more difficult.

That was when the NDP used the finance committee to introduce a series of amendments in advance of the final vote on the budget bill. By the account of their own officials, the New Democrats never expected to get support from the other parties for removing privatization mechanisms or a slight toughening of arbitration rules from the legislation; it was just supposed to be a harmless way to play to their union supporters, and cut into some of the Liberals’ organized-labour support. What they hadn’t counted on was that the Tories would vote with them.

Days later, Mr. Hudak’s officials and MPPs would argue that the components they helped remove from the budget were actually left-wing policies masquerading as fiscally conservative ones. It would be fairer to say the policies went somewhat in the direction the Tories would want, just not far enough. And the simplest explanation for how they voted is that they saw an opportunity to embarrass the Liberals, and took advantage of it.

In a sense, it worked. Mr. McGuinty proceeded to overreact, crying wolf with an election threat he wasn’t prepared to follow through on. The Liberals and New Democrats then spent several days arguing publicly about what their original budget deal had entailed, and whether or not the NDP has broken a promise. Suffice it to say neither the Premier nor Ms. Horwath came off particularly well.

But Mr. Hudak’s conduct was embarrassing in a different way. In the midst of a legitimate budget crisis, he stayed as far as possible from Queen’s Park. Although he had no less a hand in this mess than Mr. McGuinty or Ms. Horwath, he was Tweeting about what he had for lunch while they were trying to sort it out. In one of the stranger moments of a strange week, he issued a statement from afar that more or less lamented that the other two leaders weren’t getting along.

It can be debated whether or not this was smart strategy. On one hand, he got less negative coverage the past few days than his counterparts, and Mr. McGuinty’s posturing might have sowed a little dissent in Liberal ranks. On the other, it didn’t exactly enhance Mr. Hudak’s efforts to rebrand himself as a more serious leader than the one we saw during last fall’s election campaign, and he may have made it easier for Mr. McGuinty to argue that he needs voters in a coming by-election to hand him a majority.

What’s more straightforward is that, unless and until he forms government, Mr. Hudak is currently making the least productive contribution of the province’s three leaders. While they may have let their egos get the better of them in nearly marching the province over a cliff, Mr. McGuinty and Ms. Horwath at least did so in a way that was consistent with their views of how the government should be run. That’s a pretty low bar, but Mr. Hudak would have had a hard time explaining how he met it, if he’d bothered accepting ownership of the situation at all.

Hudak got off too easy for his role in Ontario
A stunning bit of complete horse**** if ever I have seen one.
McGuinty had two majorities followed by a a minority to work with.
And it's now the oppositions fault?
I have seen some serious spin in my day.
My wife ran the Government Affairs department of a major university up until retirement.
I have been drinking scotch with registered lobbyists, war room phone hacks and spin meisters for years.
Hell my wife was a registered lobbiest.
Spin is cool, its a game, a very very serious game.
Played for all the marbles.
Carville and Stephanopoulos would choke over this thread.
Does the original poster actually believe this thread starter?
Really?
Really Really?