No. The vast majority of the WAIS is not floating. Please at least do like a google check before posting.
Mind you, missiojn accomplished I guess. You've completely fooled the Cap'n who followed up with this bit of bafflegab...
How the GW myth is perpetuated
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No. The vast majority of the WAIS is not floating. Please at least do like a google check before posting.
Mind you, missiojn accomplished I guess. You've completely fooled the Cap'n who followed up with this bit of bafflegab...
1934 Heat, Drought And Extreme Weather Was Global
Posted on May 24, 2014 by stevengoddard
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The heat and drought in the US during 1934 blew away all records, but it wasn’t just in the US – it was all over the world. Antarctica had their record warmest winter temperatures too.
esplain that! global warming nuts
Posted on May 24, 2014 by stevengoddard
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The heat and drought in the US during 1934 blew away all records, but it wasn’t just in the US – it was all over the world. Antarctica had their record warmest winter temperatures too.
esplain that! global warming nuts
Hard to disagree. The irony is the shoddy sceince and politicizing of peer-reviewed journals ultimately backfires on those attempting to wield influence through suppression of studies.
But on the other hand, it also doesn't change the fact that CO2 is increasing by about 2 ppm/year.
Do some poking around in the gas hydrates and gas cycle realm, geomagnetism interaction with ocean currents and jet streams' magnetic fields as well as the mechanisms that drive polar climates.
Physicians For Mental Incompetence
Posted on May 27, 2014 by stevengoddard
Pennsylvania doctor packs an unbelievable amount of bull**** into four short paragraphs
"Many have been lulled into a sense of “business as usual” with the cold winter and cool spring we have been experiencing. Nevertheless globally, April tied for being the hottest April ever. What we don’t see can hurt us."
Utter nonsense. Satellite temperatures show that globally, April was close to the median since 1979.
"Science, armed by 3000 worldwide ARGO underwater robots constantly measuring ocean temperatures, knows that the planet continues to rapidly warm. It shows that 97 percent of the heat trapped by the excess greenhouse gasses goes into the oceans. It does cause the water to expand, contributing to sea level rise and to more moisture in the atmosphere. Recent studies show that the warmer oceans are increasing the melting of ice in Antarctica and Greenland from below and they each are on a path to raise sea level by 4 feet."
Sea level is barely rising at the majority of tide gauges.
"This heat will also “bite” us, as it is released to the atmosphere by such events as a likely El Niňo. So expect heat waves, droughts, storms, floods and wildfires to be frequent events."
Complete bull****. Not one shred of evidence to back up any of his claims. All of the things he listed have always been frequent events.
"All the respected scientific societies (such as National Academy of Science and the Royal Society) state that the planet is heating, mostly from human causes, and that this is serious and does require action now as many of these gasses remain in the atmosphere thousands of years. Nature will not listen to the denying political talk."
This guy is an embarrassment to the medical profession. The only dangerous gas in the vicinity is the hot air from people like James Jones, M.D.
JAMES E. JONES, M.D., Physicians for Social Responsibility, New Cumberland
"Despite cool weather, global warming is a scientific fact:" PennLive letters | PennLive.com
Posted on May 27, 2014 by stevengoddard
Pennsylvania doctor packs an unbelievable amount of bull**** into four short paragraphs
"Many have been lulled into a sense of “business as usual” with the cold winter and cool spring we have been experiencing. Nevertheless globally, April tied for being the hottest April ever. What we don’t see can hurt us."
Utter nonsense. Satellite temperatures show that globally, April was close to the median since 1979.
"Science, armed by 3000 worldwide ARGO underwater robots constantly measuring ocean temperatures, knows that the planet continues to rapidly warm. It shows that 97 percent of the heat trapped by the excess greenhouse gasses goes into the oceans. It does cause the water to expand, contributing to sea level rise and to more moisture in the atmosphere. Recent studies show that the warmer oceans are increasing the melting of ice in Antarctica and Greenland from below and they each are on a path to raise sea level by 4 feet."
Sea level is barely rising at the majority of tide gauges.
"This heat will also “bite” us, as it is released to the atmosphere by such events as a likely El Niňo. So expect heat waves, droughts, storms, floods and wildfires to be frequent events."
Complete bull****. Not one shred of evidence to back up any of his claims. All of the things he listed have always been frequent events.
"All the respected scientific societies (such as National Academy of Science and the Royal Society) state that the planet is heating, mostly from human causes, and that this is serious and does require action now as many of these gasses remain in the atmosphere thousands of years. Nature will not listen to the denying political talk."
This guy is an embarrassment to the medical profession. The only dangerous gas in the vicinity is the hot air from people like James Jones, M.D.
JAMES E. JONES, M.D., Physicians for Social Responsibility, New Cumberland
"Despite cool weather, global warming is a scientific fact:" PennLive letters | PennLive.com
It's the only horse required. :lol:
Why doesn't the planet freeze to -200 at night of there's no greenhouse effect?
"Oceans" is hardly an explanation. An ocean, like air, is a fluid. They can generally be described by the same heat trransfer and radaition models (except that liquids are virtually incompressible).
Fail.
They sure as sh-t won't freeze overnight.
Did you read up yet?
A cute video....
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010000/a010005/vortex.mpg
what is keeping that polar rotation in place? What happened last winter when solar EM pummeled this system? Has this mechanism changed in the part 40 years?
Most of the variance in the Holocene atmospheric record can be attributed to the geomagnetic (millennia time scale) and solar (century time scale) influence on the flux of primary cosmic rays entering the atmosphere. Attributing the observed atmospheric changes to climate alone leads to ocean circulation and/or global wind speed changes incompatible with proxy records. Climate-(ocean-)related 14C redistribution between carbon reservoirs, while evidently playing a minor role during the Holocene, may have perturbed atmospheric ratios measurably during the late-glacial Younger Dryas event. First-order corrections to the radiocarbon time scale (12,000–30,000 14C yr B.P.) are calculated from adjusted lake-sediment and tree-ring records and from geomagnetically defined model 14C histories. Paleosunspot numbers (100–9700 cal yr B.P.) are derived from the relationship of model 14C production rates to sunspot observations. The spectral interpretation of the atmospheric record favors higher than average solar activity levels for the next century. Minimal evidence was found for a sun-weather relationship.
Climatic, solar, oceanic, and geomagnetic influences on late-glacial and holocene atmospheric 14C12C change
Another article you need to peruse The shielding capacity of the Earth’s geomagnetic field is a prime factor regulating the flux into the atmosphere of galactic cosmic ray (in its turn controlling the 14C and 10Be production). This shielding capacity is controlled both by the Earth’s own geomagnetic field variability and by the Solar Wind variations. The Solar Wind interaction with the magnetosphere also affects the Earth’s rate of rotation (as recorded in the correlation between LOD and Sunspot activity). This opens for three possible lines of Solar Terrestrial interaction. (1) Changes in the total irradiance (known to be very small, however, over a full sun spot cycle). (2) Changes in cosmic ray flux reaching into the Earth’s atmosphere where it has the potential of affecting airglow and cloudiness (especially the cloudiness at a height in the order of 15 km). (3) Changes in the Earth’s rate of rotation affecting the oceanic circulation redistributing ocean-stored heat and water masses. The Spörer, Maunder and Dalton sun spot minima seem all to have led to periods of rotational acceleration pulling Arctic water down the European coasts and displacing the warm Gulf Stream towards Gibraltar. The geomagnetic field as regulator of cosmic ray flux and rotational potential is likely to have played a significant role even over longer time periods. It should be noted, however, the geometry of the Earth’s geomagnetic field cannot have differed very much due to frozen plasma conditions even at excursions and reversals. If the recorded sunspot and geomagnetic cycles are extrapolated into the future they predict a new low (“Little Ice Age”) in the years 2050 2100 (i.e. a scenario very different from that presented by IPCC). Our study of the relation between geomagnetism and climate has shown that geomagnetic field changes have played an important role in modulation Earth’s climate. These changes may originate from internal planetary sources (i.e. the Earth’s own geomagnetic field) as well as from external Solar variability (i.e. heliomagnetic field and Solar Wind forces). This applies, in different ways, for the present, the last 400 years, the last millennium, the last 15,000 years and the last 1 million years. Therefore, it must also be included in estimates and predictions of future changes in climate. The full INTAS team consists of: N.-A. Mörner, H. Nevanlinna, N. Abrahamsen, V. Dergachev, O. Shumilov, O. Raspopov, A. Didenko, O. Pilipenko, Z. Charonova, V. Trubikhin, E. Gooskova, S. Vasiliev, E. Kasatkina, I. Kirtsidele.
Geomagnetism and climate V: general conclusions
More more more....
Understanding climate change is an active topic of research. Much of the observed increase in global surface temperature over the past 150*years occurred prior to the 1940s and after the 1980s. The main causes invoked are solar variability, changes in atmospheric greenhouse gas content or sulfur due to natural or anthropogenic action, or internal variability of the coupled ocean–atmosphere system. Magnetism has seldom been invoked, and evidence for connections between climate and magnetic field variations have received little attention. We review evidence for correlations which could suggest such (causal or non-causal) connections at various time scales (recent secular variation ∼ 10–100*yr, historical and archeomagnetic change ∼ 100–5000*yr, and excursions and reversals ∼ 103–106*yr), and attempt to suggest mechanisms. Evidence for correlations, which invoke Milankovic forcing in the core, either directly or through changes in ice distribution and moments of inertia of the Earth, is still tenuous. Correlation between decadal changes in amplitude of geomagnetic variations of external origin, solar irradiance and global temperature is stronger. It suggests that solar irradiance could have been a major forcing function of climate until the mid-1980s, when “anomalous” warming becomes apparent. The most intriguing feature may be the recently proposed archeomagnetic jerks, i.e. fairly abrupt (∼ 100*yr long) geomagnetic field variations found at irregular intervals over the past few millennia, using the archeological record from Europe to the Middle East. These seem to correlate with significant climatic events in the eastern North Atlantic region. A proposed mechanism involves variations in the geometry of the geomagnetic field (f.i. tilt of the dipole to lower latitudes), resulting in enhanced cosmic-ray induced nucleation of clouds. No forcing factor, be it changes in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere or changes in cosmic ray flux modulated by solar activity and geomagnetism, or possibly other factors, can at present be neglected or shown to be the overwhelming single driver of climate change in past centuries. Intensive data acquisition is required to further probe indications that the Earth's and Sun's magnetic fields may have significant bearing on climate change at certain time scales
Are there connections between the Earth's magnetic field and climate?
During the past ∼120 years, Earth's surface temperature is correlated with both decadal averages and solar cycle minimum values of the geomagnetic aa index. The correlation with aa minimum values suggests the existence of a long-term (low-frequency) component of solar irradiance that underlies the 11-year cyclic component. Extrapolating the aa-temperature correlations to Maunder Minimum geomagnetic conditions implies that solar forcing can account for ∼50% or more of the estimated ∼0.7–1.5°C increase in global surface temperature since the second half of the 17th century. Our analysis is admittedly crude and ignores known contributors to climate change such as warming by anthropogenic greenhouse-gases or cooling by volcanic aerosols. Nevertheless, the general similarity in the time-variation of Earth's surface temperature and the low-frequency or secular component of the aa index over the last ∼120 years supports other studies that indicate a more significant role for solar variability in climate change on decadal and century time-scales than has previously been supposed. The most recent aa data for the current solar minimum suggest that the long-term component of solar forcing will level off or decline during the coming solar cycle.
Solar variability and climate change: Geomagnetic aa index and global surface temperature - Cliver - 2012 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
Varves in Elk Lake are composed of seasonally deposited laminations of diatoms, calcite, aragonite, and layers enriched in Mn, Fe, organic matter, and clay and/or silt. The proportions of these components and the character of varve laminations changed systematically over the past 10,000+ years and define a post-glacial lake rich in calcium and manganese, a mid-Holocene prairie lake with sediments enriched in clay and silt, and a modern lake rich in Fe. Sequential changes in varve composition during the three phases of lake development are the result of a maturing lake and drainage basin and a systematic shift in airstream movements, accompanied by changes in precipitation, vegetation, and sedimentational responses to climatic forcing.
Changes in varve thickness between 3.8 and 8.0 ka are attributed to eolian processes and are believed to reflect changes in regional surface winds. Within this ~4000 year time window is a 2000 year interval when time series for Δ 14C (from tree rings) and varve thickness cross correlate and when both express periodicity at ~200 years, 40–50 years, and 20–25 years, supporting meteorological evidence that solar-geomagnetic events lead to changes in both cosmic particle flux and tropospheric winds. The Earth’s magnetic dipole moment reached its lowest value in the Holocene during the same 2000 year interval, suggesting that solar-geomagnetic events had a greater effect on the wind field when the Earth’s magnetic field was weak. A period of ~100+ years is weakly expressed in iron-rich varves during the past 3800 years, with a shift from cyclicity of ~100 years to 40–50 years between the Medieval Warm Epoch and the Little Ice Age
The varve chronometer in Elk Lake: Record of climatic variability and evidence for solar-geomagnetic-14C-climate connection
Yup. None of those say how the Earth retains heat at night. If you can't explain that readily observable phenomenon, you don't have a theory.
Your ocean thoery makes no sense whatsoever. If the oceans retain heat, then so should the atmosphere, as both are fluids and subject to the same laws with respect to heat transfer and radiation.
Who said it did? They show that geomagnetics plays a substancial role in climate swings. It would be in your best interest to ignore these peer reviewed studies as they do nothing for you're one horse CO2 parade.
Yes, they say how geomagnetics plays a substantial role in climate swings. They do not say how geomagnetics heats the earth at night.