Archie Bunker blamed the earthquakes in California on Catholics. Said it was "St Andrew's fault."
George Noory discredits who?
How the GW myth is perpetuated
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I did. And far from dismiss it, they actually discuss cirrus cloudiness and persistent linear contrails, as wells as the best estimates at the time of the cut-off for the radiative impact. Far from a dismissal.
No. Vapour is a function of temperature. It will amplify the greenhouse effect, but it doesn't come a priori - it's not a driver. The contrails and cirrus clouds you're pimping are harmless while they are frozen. It's only when the begin to evaporate and turn into vapour that they amplify the warming.
After the man-made contrails initially freeze, they then fall and turn back into water vapour at lower altitudes. When they do this, they amplify the warming based on the existing temperature. The hotter the existing temperature, the faster they evaporate and the stronger they will amplify the warming. The cooler the existing temperature, the slower the evaporation, and the weaker the amplification in warming. And so it's whatever drives the initial temperature before this amplification occurs, which is the true driver for warming. That driver is C02.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_cloud
http://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas-intermediate.htm
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And here, I thought you'd be agreeing with this guy; for one, he was very supportive of the Catholic Church; for another, he hated any Democrats.
I wondered if it was you calling, quite honestly.
And even further from proper inclusion by those who keep pushing the carbon story.
When they properly quantify and include effects of persistant spreading contrails maybe I'll start listening.
Now what to do about the 500 million tonnes of salts used yearly in agriculture altering ocean acidity?
There is only one solution. You know it and I know it.
The Soviet dacha or the current Cuban plan wouldn't even come close to solving the issue or even the silly idea of UN type bisquits or farmed proteins.
If you really really really want to save your oceans 4 billion people need to stop eating yesterday.
Well if you're going to be unreasonable about what can be done you might as well say you can fix the problem by getting people to eat lower on the trophic food web too. All the space you don't need for animal feed can be large enough green belts around water sheds to avoid eutrophication, and the other assorted issues with soil losses.
But you wouldn't even try alternative agricultural practices? That's pretty lazy.
LMFAO....you have absolutely no clue do you? My farm is 1/453rd the size of PEI. Do you want me to fling fish and kelp around without burning fuel?
What about the phosphates and potassium?
What about the phosphates and potassium?
There is a reason the other thread became locked. Lets try to keep it civil(and that goes for everyone) here, okay?
I hope you feel shame.
In the mean time, somethhing to keep you busy. NASA - Clouds Caused by Aircraft Exhaust May Warm the U.S. Climate
Just another view on "how to perpetuate a myth'.....
In the mean time, somethhing to keep you busy. NASA - Clouds Caused by Aircraft Exhaust May Warm the U.S. Climate
Just another view on "how to perpetuate a myth'.....