How O'Bama affects Canada

[SirJosephPorter]

Obama is the long awaited anti-christ. He will unleash the dogs of war with his putrid hand and soak the soil beneath our feet with the blood of the innocent. He is the poison fruit of the tree of death. Millions will die by his smile. His words are foul.

Sorry, darkbeaver, but many Fundamentalists don’t agree with you, they think that the anti-Christ will rise in Europe.

 

[GreenFish66]

Canada has no leaders !..We are only book keepers ..The holders and sellers of Canada's resources!!..Under this minority Harper conservative government..!!

I would join the U.s.a and merge into 1 Big America ..at this moment in time!!..Cause I feel Obama will do more for Canada than A our conservative Government will ever do for our people!!...It's sad I know...

 

[GreenFish66]

Re- Obama secretarial choices?..
.
Geithner..Bin in 3 administrations( He knows what caused this Crisis!)...
....Hillary Clinton.
Joe Biden.
Sounds like the same ol gang to me!...Hope things will truly be different !..Not lookin like it so far!
Obama is Putting all the democrates best eggs all in one basket. Seems like quite a risk..
Obama's cabinet is definetly an All Star cast. But There was no risk to the Clintons had they stayed put ..She coulda been the next president (in 8yrs)!.We all Coulda had 16years of peace!!..Now ..Well ..It's all up in the air!!..I don't see any big presidential leaders comin in the future!.Anyone??,,,,,,It's a Big gamble!!
Makes me wonder How far ahead these things are planned?.Seems like a reckless Risk for a couple of top politicians to take .Why does it always seem like change equals the same ol' outcomes.!.10 years of Bush..10 years of Clintons.!..Well I hope the Clintons own self interests don't interfere with the Respect and Reputation each have gained over the years...Or We will all pay for it!!,,and I'm Canadian!(north American)...

I for one can't stop thinking this is a bad move on Obama's part, The Clintons part , Democrates part and ultimately will harm America's chance at 16 years of peace! ...Although I do see some of the reasoning behind Obama's Choices ...(.Gotta Keep an eye on that Biden guy!.)lol..
.Seems Clintons are going for instant gratification..and Self interest ...I hope they prove me and others who share my opinion wrong!!...

.I know.I know .Who the hell ..do I think I am.?..lol...Notta star ..that's for sure!!.Was star struck once.!.Was on a D list somewhere .Can't remember where!!...Took a lot of bad risks..and lost it all! ...!.Had to re-educate myself!..lol
I am much happier now!...
Oh well ..but enough about me!.

..Guess that's what makes the leaders ..Leaders eh??

They know what their doing..Right?

In politics ,Ya gotta take the lead when it's offered!

Just gotta know what your doing and where your goin when you are given the torch!..It's that easy!lol

That's o.k. by the time Obama's done ..We will elect Another Trudeau!!

 

[fubbleskag]

Sorry, darkbeaver, but many Fundamentalists don’t agree with you, they think that the anti-Christ will rise in Europe.

and that he'll be jewish

 

[Nuggler]

How O'Bama affects Canada

I didn't realize Obama was Irish, Wally.
Faith n be Jazus, were all of us ok now.

Nice ass, Walter. You should really go to weight watchers.

:thefinger:s (ie) g , Wally. Remember?

Mocking returns to haunt, no!

 

[darkbeaver]

Quite right, minority rights should not be voted on by the majority. It is ridiculous to give the majority a veto over whether minority should have equal rights. Indeed, I cannot think of even one instance where a majority granted a minority more rights as a result of the referendum, it just doesn’t happen.

So how should these rights be decided? That is simple; minority rights is a constitutional issue, Supreme Court is the final arbiter on the constitution. So it is quite proper that the Courts must rule on the issue. Then the parliament also should have something to say about it, they are the representatives of the people. In addition, they are sworn to uphold the constitution, so it is quite proper that they should have a say.

However, the average citizen in under no obligation to uphold the constitution. He may want to out of respect for constitution, but he is not obliged to do so, it is not part of his job. It is the central part of the job description of Supreme Court and Parliament to uphold the constitution. So the courts and the Parliament must decide on human rights, minority rights issues.

But asking the average citizen, average majority citizen if minority should be granted equal right sis like asking Dracula if the blood banks should be closed.

Minority rights can only come from the majority and can only be maintained by the majority in theroy, mine anyway, in practice though we can look at the rights afforded corporations constitutionaly to see some problems I think, one is the minority ends up ruling. Nothing should slide past a show of hands not even god.
It has to be addressed through education, untill that's fixed? In the big scheme of things it's not an issue nor a problem but it is a handy device for political oportunist on all three sides of the issue.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I have to say that Walters original post that started this Thread is just a Hoot! If ya' can't
laugh at yourself (as a Canadian), then we're in a sorry state indeed.

Walter, That was Funny!

 

[darkbeaver]

Sorry, darkbeaver, but many Fundamentalists don’t agree with you, they think that the anti-Christ will rise in Europe.

Well I happen to think the anti-christ is a whole lot smarter than those loosers.:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

I have to say that Walters original post that started this Thread is just a Hoot! If ya' can't
laugh at yourself (as a Canadian), then we're in a sorry state indeed.

Walter, That was Funny!

It was good.

 

[Risus]

Obama is the long awaited anti-christ. He will unleash the dogs of war with his putrid hand and soak the soil beneath our feet with the blood of the innocent. He is the poison fruit of the tree of death. Millions will die by his smile. His words are foul.

I thought bush was the antichrist. However obama cannot be trusted.

 

[darkbeaver]

I thought bush was the antichrist. However obama cannot be trusted.

Bush was anti-intelligent pro-christ, it was a false positive. Obama is the real one already the faithfull kiss his robe and lick his feet. I had a dream.:smile:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Minority rights can only come from the majority and can only be maintained by the majority in theroy,

I don’t think so, darkbeaver, minority rights come from the framers of the constitution. In our case that is the constitution repatriated by Trudeau and the Charter. It is not upto the majority to grant those rights, there are already enumerated in the constitution.

Thus, if we had a referendum tomorrow and people voted to abolish vote for women, that doesn’t mean women will cease to have the right to vote, it is enshrined in the constitution.

When you say they can only be maintained by the majority, in theory you are right. In theory, the majority can take away women’s right to vote, or bring back slavery for blacks or ban SSM. However, the constitution rightly makes it very difficult (although not impossible) for the majority to take away the rights from the minority.

The only way majority can take rights away from minorities is by constitutional amendment. To achieve that, majority has to elect governments in each and every province (and also federally) which would vote to ban SSM. Then all the governments together can vote to modify the Charter and ban SSM. An almost impossible task.

So I think you are wrong, minority rights do not come from majority, but from the constitution and while in theory majority can take them away, in practice it is almost impossible.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Bush was anti-intelligent pro-christ, it was a false positive. Obama is the real one already the faithfull kiss his robe and lick his feet. I had a dream.:smile:

I don't not agree with your logic!;-)

 

[darkbeaver]

What minorities are we talking about? Where are these minorities located? What rights are these minorities being denied?

rgs

Minority rights issues are used to hide missing or abused majority rights.

 

[darkbeaver]

I don't not agree with your logic!;-)

We ll if I was a broken pop machine you could point out where exactly my logic has failed but I'm not so you'll have to find something wrong with my human reasoning which is not logical by definition.;-) maybe

 

[Ron in Regina]

We ll if I was a broken pop machine you could point out where exactly my logic has failed but I'm not so you'll have to find something wrong with my human reasoning which is not logical by definition.;-) maybe

I don't not agree with your logic! ( - x - = + )

 

[scratch]

hey db,

your logic begs intense scrutiny

sinrgs

 

[GreenFish66]

Alternative energies are an investment..Making hybrid cars and other more effecient vehicles is a good investment!They even the playing field ..Spur on competition!...Bad decisions, and lousy investment practises is what caused this whole "CRISIS".In the first place!!..Free markets are good if they encourage healthy competition..
Or new ways will dye in the old ones stuborness to learn, to change,,to teach the new ones!!.!
What can be learned from past mistakes?.

 

[darkbeaver]

I don't not agree with your logic! ( - x - = + )

oh haha

 

[einmensch]

Obama is controlled by the BANKERS --the same guys that caused the present and past ripoff periods-
Summers, Geithner are jewish just like the vast mojority of the Rothschild cartel
Banks gave mortgages on 115% and then sold them as investment bonds and just kept doing it- governments like it because your house taxes soared and are still up there--now the boys will soon be able to buy it cheap --they would have sold the house to a dog as long as they got a paw print--If the BANKS would have held the mortgages ain't nobody gettin more than a 75% mortgage unless it is ensured.
Retro--Only today he appointed Paul Wolfowitz to the position of president of the World Bank. This despite the objections of the Europeans who don't want a Jew to lead that important financial institution. President Bush appointed Michael Chertoff to head the department of homeland security. Chertoff is the son of a Rabbi.
No difference same gang controls the money--decides on undesireables and the bought and paid for Obama is no different then Rice or Colin Powell-Iraq has WMD schrek-
Canada--we are here and the USA takes what it wants and sells it back to us

Banks 4 men wish to play cards
Dan goes to the bank borrows 52 cards
After gambling all night and breaking even
Dan returns the 52 cards
The banker demands 56 cards
4 cards interest
So Dan owes the Federal reserve, Bank of Canada, World Bank, 4 cards
BUT these 4 cards were never created and so all become debtors

only today the banker enters a figure in the computer and we pay interest on that sum
say the figure is $20 billion the we the people owe $21 billion--1 billion for something that the bank never had to begin with

Us little slaves have never mattered but conditions for some, many have improved