How many Gods do you believe in?

[DurkaDurka]

I saw Allah in a dream last night, he was galloping across the clouds on a unicorn, followed by thousands of Jihadists, riding Donkeys. Allah eventually led them to a golden pond, where they dismounted their steeds.

The wind blew off the pond, flipping Allah's hair in his eye, "derka derka, jihad!" he shouted, blasted winds! With a flick of the wrist, Allah banished the winds, sending them in the general direction of Israel.

Allah, dipped his face into the holy pond, slurping the nectar to prepare him self for his coming exploits.

Allah beckoned to the maids, laying on the beach in their tight fitting Burkas.

To be continued....

 

[Dexter Sinister]

don't talk like this pls...

Why not? That's in the Quran, quite plainly and directly, with the gory details specified, and it's only one of the horrible things Allah threatens to do to people who don't follow him. What's your problem, can't stand the plain truth of what your holy book actually says?

 

[ahmadabdalrhman]

Why not? That's in the Quran, quite plainly and directly, with the gory details specified, and it's only one of the horrible things Allah threatens to do to people who don't follow him. What's your problem, can't stand the plain truth of what your holy book actually says?

why I don't believe it ? , if he is the truth !!

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

17] Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Musa before it, a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the Sects that reject it, the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!
[18] Who doth more wrong than those who invent a lie against Allah? They will be turned back to the presence of their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord! Behold! The curse of Allah is on those who do wrong
19] "Those who would hinder (men) from the path of Allah and would seek in it something crooked: these were they who denied the Hereafter!"
[20] They will in no wise frustrate (His design) on earth, nor have they protectors besides Allah! their penalty will be doubled! they lost the power to hear, and they did not see!
[21] They are the ones who have lost their own souls: and the (fancies) they invented have left them in the lurch!
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[22] Without a doubt, these are the very ones who will lose most in the Hereafter!

[23] But those who believe and work righteousness, and humble themselves before their Lord, they will be Companions of the Garden, to dwell therein for aye!

[24] These two kinds (of men) may be compared to the blind and deaf, and those who can see and hear well. Are they equal when compared? Will ye not then take heed?

 

[look3467]

There are many gods, lower case g, but only one God, upper case G.

Make up gods, or not, makes only a difference here on earth, but after this earth, meaning after we assume room temperature, we will meet the one true God and will instantly know who He is.

The part where knowing Him personaly, while we are yet alive, is the greatest blessing on earth while still in the flesh.

If we don't want or don't have access to Him by way of information, we are at a loss for the blessings that come with knowing Him personaly.

So, for those religious folks who demand the world to ahere to their form of doctrine are also at a loss, for the very message givn by God is to love thy neighbor regardless of who or what they are.

And for those who believe not in God are also at a loss from the blessings of knowing Him personaly.

To know and understand what it means to know Him personaly, can only be had by a personal experience with God without argument.

Both religious and non religious folks fall under the same catagory of good or evil deeds.

What separates the good folk whether religious or not, is the heart of the individual displaying Godly attributes without respect to religious beliefs.

Let us not make gods but let God make us, first in the change of heart, then in change of action.

Goodness flows from the inside out, that is, if goodness is there first.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I will go for the #1 god(or whatever you call iTt)..........


I like the idea of mother earth (Gia)....as the protecter of her children...populated by God( useing panspermia).....Body of the earth....Mind of the universe.!


1 of many theories.....but I like this one...



Feet on the ground head in the clouds..................

Over and out there from here!

B.Greenfish

I like the idea of mother earth (Gia)

Greenfish, I think that is spelled Gaia. Incidentally, don’t you also appear in Canada.com forum? I participate there as well, there I am SirRupertMargartroyd. They are having problems currently, the forum is not working as it should, they are trying to sort out the bugs.

That is why I signed up here. However, I like this forum as well, I just may decide to continue here, rather than return to Canada.com. We will see.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

As to how many Gods I believe in, I like the idea of Hinduism, there they believe in 330 million Gods. Now, if one were to assume the life span of 100 years, that leaves about 0.16 minutes (or about 10 seconds) to pray for each God.

The cards are stacked against you, you just can’t win, there is no way you can pray to all of them. So why bother/

 

[scratch]

As to how many Gods I believe in, I like the idea of Hinduism, there they believe in 330 million Gods. Now, if one were to assume the life span of 100 years, that leaves about 0.16 minutes (or about 10 seconds) to pray for each God.

The cards are stacked against you, you just can’t win, there is no way you can pray to all of them. So why bother/

None.

 

[darkbeaver]

Hundreds, they are democratic, there is no big one. The whales god is the same size as the fleas. The god of flowers smells no better than the dung beetle god.

 

[Cliffy]

Interesting thread. I notice that the non-religious tend to be brief and to the point while the religious tend to be long winded, quoting scripture and others but have very little to add of their own thoughts. This is yelling in itself. The religious tend to be sheep (and proud of it) and the non-religious tend to be free thinkers. I, personally, do not subject myself to herd mentality and think those who do must have a missing gene or two.
To believe that a god created us then set down a bunch of rules that none of us can live up to, but that if we don't, he will punish us with unimaginable tortures is not only a little demented but that god must be a sadistic psychopath. I always thought the catholics had cornered the market on absurd beliefs about god but the more I read of the muslim religion, the more I come to believe they have surpassed even the catholics.
Killing in the name of one's god is not new. It seems to be a prerequisite to believing in a god. Thus, although I know that there is a creative force behind all that is, I do not believe in a god, for if I did, I would have to hunt him down and kill him.

I would just like to add - Hi! to all those who also haunt the canada.com forums who have migrated here for something to do while those people there work out the kinks in there program.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Cliffy, welcome to the forum (I assume you are the same Cliffy from Canada.com). I am SirRupertMargartroyd (you probably already have figured it out). I have already met Spade, BCPC (SirFrances2004) here,

 

[Kreskin]

Welcome to CC you guys.

 

[MHz]

he will punish us with unimaginable tortures is not only a little demented but that god must be a sadistic psychopath.

Then how could He have dictated Re:10? The visions that pertain to how the righteous will see His arrival. It is only the 'workers of iniquity' (His words not mine) who will see His arrival as described in Re:16. Those two chapters cover both spectrums, the one you mentioned and another side that will not be seen by some, so He is more than the 'darkness'.

Ya but the torture comes after death, not before it like in our twisted world of the present. Again taking things one step further than man can do at his very best.

Pretty soon they will be building things that are 'god-proof', oh yes, they did already, Titanic. Sunk by water before her first voyage ended. (that's from "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon." ) So much for being 'god-proof' though.

 

[Cliffy]

As far as I can tell, revelations was written by someone who was ingesting Ergot (rye mold). That poor dude was having a really bad trip. Personally, when I was into ingesting a derivative of ergot many years ago, I only saw paradise - I saw creation for the wonderful, benevolent and joyful place it is. Hell and suffering are human concepts, created by those who would control sheeple.

It is said that god is love. What is love? What is it made of? We all have our own concepts of that but in the end, it is a really nice idea. If god is a nice idea, how can anybody believe that god would put anybody through all that torture and torment unless they are a bit psychopathic themselves?

 

[MHz]

Read and weep. And the below includes the righteous BTW.
Heb:10:31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

So you have it that nobody anywhere has any rules, even parents over children, no rules. Interesting concept, nobody is going to vote that it even be tried yet alone made into Law. A Law stating there are no Laws,(LOL) only an atheist world could come with something like that.

 

[Cliffy]

MHz,
Not sure if you are talking to me or just being macabre. For the same reason that the religious seem to be obsessed with death and punishment, I am anti religion. If human behaviour is dependent on keeping them living in fear of reprisal by some sadistic god, the I say, let us take away all fearful restraints on human behaviour and see if we survive our own penchant for being brutal savages. We will either wipe ourselves out or discover that we are truly divine beings.

Those who advocate the need for these threats to behave themselves must not have any faith in themselves. They are terrified that they will become the dark animals they fear.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

If human behaviour is dependent on keeping them living in fear of reprisal by some sadistic god, the I say, let us take away all fearful restraints on human behaviour and see if we survive our own penchant for being brutal savages. We will either wipe ourselves out or discover that we are truly divine beings.

Cliffy, religion needs a strong element of fear to keep the believers in line. Promises of eternal bliss, eternal happiness by themselves would not be enough to keep the faithful in line.

Indeed, some preachers make no bones about it. I remember televangelist Jimmy Swaggart proudly used to proclaim that he scared many believers out of Hell, he scared them into Heaven.

I think when religion started in prehistoric times; its purpose was mainly to explain natural phenomena such as thunder and lightening. In that respect it could be considered a precursor to science. When in prehistoric times people imagined God of thunder, God of lightening etc., they were doing their best to explain the natural phenomena.

I think it was later that religion was corrupted by the demagogues, in the form of Christianity, Islam etc. Now the original purpose (to explain thunder, storms, lightening etc.) fell by the wayside, now it became all about Heaven and Hell, and about killing the nonbelievers.

 

[scratch]

What is all the fuss about non-believers?

 

[Cliffy]

What is all the fuss about non-believers?

Good morning scratch,
Non-believers are a threat to believers because, deep down inside they know their beliefs are built on quick sand. It all boils down to insecurity, which is why they felt the need for a god in the first place.

 

[scratch]

Cliffy, Good Day to You.
I do not think that we have met.
Welcome to CanCon, do not be a stranger.

As far as your comment goes (if I understand it correctly) non-believers frighten believers?

regards,
scratch

 

[MHz]

MHz,
Not sure if you are talking to me or just being macabre. For the same reason that the religious seem to be obsessed with death and punishment, I am anti religion. If human behaviour is dependent on keeping them living in fear of reprisal by some sadistic god, the I say, let us take away all fearful restraints on human behaviour and see if we survive our own penchant for being brutal savages. We will either wipe ourselves out or discover that we are truly divine beings.

Those who advocate the need for these threats to behave themselves must not have any faith in themselves. They are terrified that they will become the dark animals they fear.

If I can get a reply in just below the reference post I don't usually address it.

Correct me if I am wrong. You contend that religions (any/all of them) are installed to control people (for better or for worse). Since religion comes after people were gathering together then things were not going all that grand if all those "Laws" had to be installed (and written down so they would not be forgotten) to keep people in line. Now you want to remove those same Laws which are just for the sheeple anyway since the 'rich, elite of society' (the ones who actually run things) never have and never will follow those same Laws. You do not introduce Laws to govern things that are not being done. People were doing all things mentioned by the 10 commandments before they became commandments, they didn't just start doing those things after the commandments existed.

Don't try and play the innocent little benign group, atheists have been the cause of much war and much death. Conquest of land and search for treasures that have monetary value are atheist wars or would you like to state that money, material goods, and status have no meaning in an atheist world?