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NATO’s Afghanistan: The Champion of Drugs Production


Sunday, 04 April 2010 09:56



'We really have to take our hats off to NATO. This clique of arms lobbyists and defender of jobs for the boys invaded Afghanistan in 2001 on the pretext that Osama bin Laden was using the country to attack western interests. Almost a decade after the Taleban declared war on drugs production, NATO’s Afghanistan is not only the world’s largest producer of opium but now, of hashish also.'
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maybe I should start a "those phucking arseholes" thread.......thats where this belongs.................

US Special Forces 'Tried to Cover-Up' Botched Khataba Raid in Afghanistan


Monday, 05 April 2010 08:43



'US special forces soldiers dug bullets out of their victims’ bodies in the bloody aftermath of a botched night raid, then washed the wounds with alcohol before lying to their superiors about what happened, Afghan investigators have told The Times.
Two pregnant women, a teenage girl, a police officer and his brother were shot on February 12 when US and Afghan special forces stormed their home in Khataba village, outside Gardez in eastern Afghanistan. The precise composition of the force has never been made public.
The claims were made as Nato admitted responsibility for all the deaths for the first time last night. It had initially claimed that the women had been dead for several hours when the assault force discovered their bodies.'
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Neda's Death Not Real


Tuesday, 06 April 2010 06:35


Iranian post-election unrest, a video of the alleged death of a young Iranian woman brought tears to the eyes of many. The clip was streamed repeatedly over the internet and became the focus of media attention in the West. However, an investigative television producer in Iran has made a documentary which shows another side of Neda's death. His work challenges the Western media account of the incident. What you're about to see contains graphic pictures.

YouTube - NEDA'S DEATH - NOT REAL!!- (Iran Protest)
 
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Collateral Murder? now, b4 ya jump up 'n down saying they didnt/couldnt know etc..... think about the disrespect for the dead....... running over a body with the tank and,....... if they were in a "hot spot" as that 2nd guy said a few times, the helicopter hovered for some time.....long enough for several attempts at bringing it down as you'd expect in a "hot spot"......but appeared to be no sense of urgency
just my thorts



Very condemning story and video of US engagement in Iraq

By: SamLowrey

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I'm just speechless. Launch the video from the link.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36182383/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/





Collateral Murder


Overview

5th April 2010 10:44 EST WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff.
Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.

The military did not reveal how the Reuters staff were killed, and stated that they did not know how the children were injured.
After demands by Reuters, the incident was investigated and the U.S. military concluded that the actions of the soldiers were in accordance with the law of armed conflict and its own "Rules of Engagement".
Consequently, WikiLeaks has released the classified Rules of Engagement for 2006, 2007 and 2008, revealing these rules before, during, and after the killings.
WikiLeaks has released both the original 38 minutes video and a shorter version with an initial analysis. Subtitles have been added to both versions from the radio transmissions.
WikiLeaks obtained this video as well as supporting documents from a number of military whistleblowers. WikiLeaks goes to great lengths to verify the authenticity of the information it receives. We have analyzed the information about this incident from a variety of source material. We have spoken to witnesses and journalists directly involved in the incident.
WikiLeaks wants to ensure that all the leaked information it receives gets the attention it deserves. In this particular case, some of the people killed were journalists that were simply doing their jobs: putting their lives at risk in order to report on war. Iraq is a very dangerous place for journalists: from 2003- 2009, 139 journalists were killed while doing their work.
Collateral Murder
 
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MSNBC to Run McVeigh Propaganda Myth on Anniversary of OK City Bombing

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It is perfectly timed to feed into the current campaign by the government and corporate media to demonize the patriot movement and portray militias around the country as domestic terrorists — MSNBC’s “The McVeigh Tapes: Confessions of an American Terrorist” will run on April 19.
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Were there additional explosive charges and additional bombers?"
 

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I'm just speechless.

Why? That sort of thing is happening continuously over there (i.e. killing civilians that "seem" to pose a threat).

You've posted far more condemning stuff on this thread before.

As for the video content: it seems like the civilians are escorting the news guys; most likely to show them something, judging from their body language (journalists depend heavily on local contacts--many of whom are hostile to US interests). That's when they got turned into paste.

Showing journalists evidence the US military would prefer not be revealed to the world will tend to get a response like that--those guys were fools to be out in the open with cameras in hand. Considering the lack of control over there and that it is well-known that US forces will waste anybody on the slightest "suspicion" (very well documented), this little example is hardly worth mention...which explains why the US media have jumped on it (i.e. it makes a great show but is superficially just a case of mistaken identity, which is as far as they will take it; they will blab on and on about rules of engagement and all that bs--focusing exclusively on the method of killing, rather than the reasons for it).

The journalists that documented US atrocities in Panama kept a very low profile; that's why they were able to get *some* incriminating evidence and not end up like those guys in the video. (See the film, "The Panama Deception" for a light taste of what happened there--ironically this film won an Academy Award lol...only in America.) And Panama was just a moderate intervention; Iraq is under direct US military control and the military has immense freedom of action, especially when it comes to suspected "insurgents", so yeah, this should not be big news.

As for the brutality of it...assuming you understand the mentality that dominates in the US military, that also shouldn't come as any surprise at all--the footage was actually pretty mild compared to the frequently sadistic mass killing of civilians by US forces in South Vietnam. But then, this sort of brutality is hardly unique to the US military (they just happen to have the resources to bring on the hurt like no one else).
 

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Lunch-only beer policy prompts Carlsberg strike
COPENHAGEN – Scores of Carlsberg workers walked off their jobs in protest Thursday after the Danish brewer tightened laid-back rules on workplace drinking and removed beer coolers from work sites, a company spokesman said.
The warehouse and production workers in Denmark are rebelling against the company's new alcohol policy, which allows them to drink beer only during lunch hours in the canteen. Previously, they could help themselves to beer throughout the day, from coolers placed around the work sites.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100408/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_denmark_carlsberg_beer_strike

Oh my god, what will they do now?
 

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NATO’s Afghanistan: The Champion of Drugs Production


Sunday, 04 April 2010 09:56



'We really have to take our hats off to NATO. This clique of arms lobbyists and defender of jobs for the boys invaded Afghanistan in 2001 on the pretext that Osama bin Laden was using the country to attack western interests. Almost a decade after the Taleban declared war on drugs production, NATO’s Afghanistan is not only the world’s largest producer of opium but now, of hashish also.'
Read more: NATO’s Afghanistan: The Champion of Drugs Production
United Nations is behind this. It funds them.
 

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Can the US Triumph in the Drug-Addicted War in Afghanistan? Opium, the CIA and the Karzai Administration

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Perhaps the best example of such CIA influence via drug traffickers today is in Afghanistan itself, where those accused of drug trafficking include President Karzai’s brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai (an active CIA asset), and Abdul Rashid Dostum (a former CIA asset).4 The drug corruption of the Afghan government must be attributed at least in part to the U.S. and CIA decision in 2001 to launch an invasion with the support of the Northern Alliance, a movement that Washington knew to be drug-corrupted.
In this way the U.S. consciously recreated in Afghanistan the situation it had created earlier in Vietnam.
 

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Drugs as a weapon of war, it ain't a new idea is it? Opium made the British Empire.


Sure did.



Coalition and Afghan Forces Launch Offensive Against Taliban

PANJWAI, AFGHANISTAN - JUNE 14: A Canadian armored vehicle sits beyond dried opium poppies as Canadian forces conduct a sweep for Taliban fighters June 14, 2006 in Panjwai, 30 kilometers southwest of Kandahar, Afghanistan. The Canadians, along with American and British forces, are part of Operation Mountain Thrust, which is the largest anti-Taliban operation since 2001. The offensive spans across southern Afghanistan and should last through the summer.
 

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Can the US Triumph in the Drug-Addicted War in Afghanistan? Opium, the CIA and the Karzai Administration


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Perhaps the best example of such CIA influence via drug traffickers today is in Afghanistan itself, where those accused of drug trafficking include President Karzai’s brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai (an active CIA asset), and Abdul Rashid Dostum (a former CIA asset).4 The drug corruption of the Afghan government must be attributed at least in part to the U.S. and CIA decision in 2001 to launch an invasion with the support of the Northern Alliance, a movement that Washington knew to be drug-corrupted.
In this way the U.S. consciously recreated in Afghanistan the situation it had created earlier in Vietnam.

The drug corruption can be attributed to everyone in that country, from all the tribal leaders right thru all the various goverments now and in the past who have tried to control Afghanistan, it is Afghanistan and the poppy that rule and no one will change it. In answer to your question, the poppy will be there long after we leave.
 

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The North American Free Trade regime spawns the traitorous "Atlantica" Project
Compiled by John Stokes, ed.
The Atlantica concept is an enigma for most people in the Atlantic Provinces. It is an agenda that has brought elites in the region to a consensus that Atlantic Canada and eastern Quebec needs to economically, socially and politically integrate with Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont and Upstate New York to form a single coherent entity in association with the United States. The alleged chief proponents of this concept are Brian Lee Crowley, President of the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies (AIMS), and Jim Quigley, President of the Atlantic Provinces Chambers of Commerce (APCC) and Vice-President of the Bank of Montreal. Although they are supposed to be Canadians, they have been promoting the treasonous "Atlantica" concept to Business and political leaders in the region. Most Canadians have not been made aware of the designs they are drawing, and would abhor their Neo-conservative prescriptions for the sought assimilation of Atlantic Canada into the United States.
Many of the recommendations of the report are already being implemented such as the "Smart Regs" initiative of the Martin Government which took the first steps towards regulatory harmonisation. The recommendations, if implemented, would destroy Canadian sovereignty. Canada would no longer be able set it's own regulation around food safety, health, the environment and slew of other jurisdictions. By far the most frightening recommendations are around defence and boarder security which would expand NORAD into a "Multi-service Defence Command" or one central military command for all of North America.


The Canadian National Newspaper: U.S. interests with their collaborators seek to take-over Canada's Atlantic Provinces
 

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New leaders of Stop Islamization of America

Posted by Sitemaster on April 2, 2010

We have now formed a new board for SIOA. The new board of SIOA is: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Stephen Gash and Anders Gravers.

The leaders of SIOA are Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.


Stephen and I have discussed for quite some time the fact that SIOA has not developed in the direction we wanted. There are groups enough who just write about the danger of Islam, but very few groups that actually do something to try to stop the Islamisation of the Western civilization.


SIOA was meant to be a group that should take action, staging demonstrations, happenings and events against the Islamisation of the U.S.


The way Stephen and I see it, we need to make SIOA more active. And in order to do that, we have now — after working for a long time to persuade them to take this on — gotten a yes from both Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer to become the leaders of SIOA.


We think they are the right people to bring SIOA to the forefront in the fight against the Islamisation of the U.S.

http://sioe.wordpress.com/
 

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Criminal MPs Who Fiddled Expenses Get Taxpayers to Pay for Their Defence


Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:47



'Three former Labour MPs accused of fiddling their parliamentary expenses have won taxpayer money to help pay their legal bills just weeks before the introduction of “means testing”. David Chaytor, Elliot Morley and Jim Devine are accused of stealing almost £60,000 in allowances through false mortgage claims, rent claims and invoiced services.
They have been told they are eligible for legal aid to fund their defences which includes the argument that they are protected from prosecution by the ancient right of parliamentary privilege. The former MPs’ total legal bill is expected to reach tens of thousands of points but could reach six figures if they continue their legal appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.'
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Lunch-only beer policy prompts Carlsberg strike
COPENHAGEN – Scores of Carlsberg workers walked off their jobs in protest Thursday after the Danish brewer tightened laid-back rules on workplace drinking and removed beer coolers from work sites, a company spokesman said.
The warehouse and production workers in Denmark are rebelling against the company's new alcohol policy, which allows them to drink beer only during lunch hours in the canteen. Previously, they could help themselves to beer throughout the day, from coolers placed around the work sites.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100408/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_denmark_carlsberg_beer_strike

Oh my god, what will they do now?
I heard about this terrible sacrifice. What is the world coming to when you can't drink a case of beer while working? Those bastards!
 

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When the Army Uses 'Enhanced Interrogation' on an American Soldier


Friday, 16 April 2010 09:17



'The worst part, he said, wasn’t battling insurgents or even the mortar blast that tossed him to the ground and slammed his head against the concrete — it was the way he was treated by the U.S. Army when he went to the aid station and sought medical help.
In gruesome detail, Luther described what happened to him at Camp Taji’s aid station. He thought he would receive medical care. Instead he was confined to an isolation chamber and held there for over a month, under enforced sleep deprivation, until he agreed to sign papers saying that he was ill before coming to Iraq and thus not eligible for disability and medical benefits. “They wanted me to say I had a ‘personality disorder,’” Luther told me.'
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