How Gravity Works

YukonJack

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How gravity works? Easy: it is just there! Just like - according to Al Gore - Global Warming, or its chicken-hearted new version, Climate Change.
 

countryboy

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I'm with Petros on this one...What goes up must come down. Do I need to know more? Nah...
 

darkbeaver

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No, it cannot.

The Maxwell equations can fall out of the Einstein equations. This is exactly what Kaluza-Klein theory does.

There is no way to pull the Einstein equations out of the Maxwell equations.

A=B then B=A ? If it is impossible to derive the Einstein equations from the proven Maxwellian works then Einstein was wrong. Possibly you will have to change your religion.
 
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darkbeaver

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"Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet has free access to the sum of all human knowledge."
— Jimmy Wales, Founder of Wikipedia

" Imagine a galaxy in which every single organism on or near the galactic plane has cheap access to the sum of all knowledge."
DB Eaver Founder of Lost Mittens
 

Tonington

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Do you really think that Einstein's equations are just a rearrangement of Maxwell's DB?
 

Dexter Sinister

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A=B then B=A ? If it is impossible to derive the Einstein equations from the proven Maxwellian works then Einstein was wrong.
Didn't understand the information at the Wikipedia reference Niflmir gave, did you. All it means is that Einstein's equations provide a broader, more generalized description of reality than do Maxwell's. Doesn't mean either was wrong, or right either for that matter, in any absolute sense. They're simply descriptions that have proven useful, correctly predictive, and accurate within the limits of their applicability.
 

darkbeaver

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Didn't understand the information at the Wikipedia reference Niflmir gave, did you. All it means is that Einstein's equations provide a broader, more generalized description of reality than do Maxwell's. Doesn't mean either was wrong, or right either for that matter, in any absolute sense. They're simply descriptions that have proven useful, correctly predictive, and accurate within the limits of their applicability.

Define understand.
 

Dexter Sinister

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That the same Maurice Cotterrell who co-authored a book about the 2012 Mayan prophecies, claims to have decoded the secrets of ancient sun-worshipping civilizations and melded modern science with ancient mysticism and yadda yadda? This guy? , whose web site opens with this?

In 1989 engineer and scientist Maurice Cotterell found a way of calculating the duration of long-term magnetic reversals on the Sun. Using this knowledge he was able to break the codes of ancient sun-worshipping civilisations, first the Mayas of Central America, those of Tutankhamun, of Egypt, and the Viracochas’ of South America, before cracking the codes of the Terracotta Warriors of China.

His research explains how the 28-day spinning Sun regulates menstruation, and hence fertility, in females and how it determines personality of the foetus in the womb (sun-sign astrology). It explains how the Sun causes schizophrenia, how overhead power lines cause cancer and how VDU's (TV and computer screens) cause miscarriages. And it explains how the Sun brings periodic catastrophic destruction to earth.


You've just found another crackpot in the style of Velikovsky, Hancock, and von Daniken. We already have an alternative to his explanations of gravity and electromagnetism. It's called the scientific consensus.
 

darkbeaver

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That the same Maurice Cotterrell who co-authored a book about the 2012 Mayan prophecies, claims to have decoded the secrets of ancient sun-worshipping civilizations and melded modern science with ancient mysticism and yadda yadda? This guy? , whose web site opens with this?

In 1989 engineer and scientist Maurice Cotterell found a way of calculating the duration of long-term magnetic reversals on the Sun. Using this knowledge he was able to break the codes of ancient sun-worshipping civilisations, first the Mayas of Central America, those of Tutankhamun, of Egypt, and the Viracochas’ of South America, before cracking the codes of the Terracotta Warriors of China.

His research explains how the 28-day spinning Sun regulates menstruation, and hence fertility, in females and how it determines personality of the foetus in the womb (sun-sign astrology). It explains how the Sun causes schizophrenia, how overhead power lines cause cancer and how VDU's (TV and computer screens) cause miscarriages. And it explains how the Sun brings periodic catastrophic destruction to earth.


You've just found another crackpot in the style of Velikovsky, Hancock, and von Daniken. We already have an alternative to his explanations of gravity and electromagnetism. It's called the scientific consensus.

The "scientific consensus" hahahahahahahahahahahah. Like Bishops you mean? The sun is very important Sinister. It does everything. :smile:
 

Dexter Sinister

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The "scientific consensus" hahahahahahahahahahahah.
Laugh all you like, doesn't alter the obvious fact that science works spectacularly well as a way of testing ideas, developing the good ones and tossing out the bad ones, finding out how nature operates, and turning that knowledge to our advantage. You appear to believe that science is some sort of vast corrupt conspiracy to protect a discredited status quo; you haven't a clue how it works.
 

darkbeaver

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So then why would you think that an equality is a relevant piece of logic pertaining to what Niflmir said?

If gravity can explain Electromagnetism then gravity must be explained first. How is it that the supposed fundemental particle of gravity, the gravitron, is still undiscovered? Without electromagnetism there could be no gravity. Niflmir has said that gravity can explain electromagnetism and I cannot see how when gravity has not been explained.
I'v heard a lot about Occam's razor here in these threads, I think it applies very well with the Professors explaination of gravity. Find me a gravitron and I might believe that Gravity explains anything.
 

darkbeaver

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Laugh all you like, doesn't alter the obvious fact that science works spectacularly well as a way of testing ideas, developing the good ones and tossing out the bad ones, finding out how nature operates, and turning that knowledge to our advantage. You appear to believe that science is some sort of vast corrupt conspiracy to protect a discredited status quo; you haven't a clue how it works.

I believe nothing of the sort, you consistantly confuse science with well understood human dynamics. A human is subject to corruption good simple science is impervious to corruption. I have a better understanding of how science works than you do you relativist religious nut. Of course science works spectacularly well, of course it is an extremely powerful tool, of course there is grand conspiracy to control it, logic Sinister is not on your side. Hey for your general information hundreds of thousands of people conspire to control traffic everyday in the world.