Yup, totally agree, women do somehow end wars very efficiently and decisively. Much deadlier than man.
How do we solve the Middle East problem.
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Yup, totally agree, women do somehow end wars very efficiently and decisively. Much deadlier than man.
Iranian President Ahmadinejad made a similar proprosal.
Also by Palestinians, he means Jews and non-Jews. Iran recognizes that Jewish Palestinians haved lived in this area for millenia, just as they lived in Iran (and continue to do so) since before Islam.
He does not recognize the immigrants as Palestinians, but everyone born in Israel/Palestine and those displaced by Israel would probably qualify as eligible to vote.
Your efforts to find a peaceful solution are admirable gerryh, but unfortunately this area is not ruled by peaceful people willing to compromise. I'm sure you are well aware of the violent intentions of some Palestinians. But how aware are you of the violent intentions of most of Israel's leadership?
Does this sound like Israel's leaders seek a peaceful solution?
Today's News
What that means is Israel's ethnic cleansing and rolling annexations will continue unabated.
Compare the situation of Israeli settlers to Palestinians:
U.N. Seeks End to Razing of Homes in East Jerusalem
Rina Castelnuovo for The New York Times
May 1, 2009
Samia al-Hdaidun with three of her children in the site of their East Jerusalem home, which Israel demolished last week.
JERUSALEM — The United Nations is calling on Israel to freeze all pending demolition orders against Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem in a new report that reflects growing international concern over developments in the contested city. The report also urges Israel to provide solutions to the housing crisis there.
Scores of Palestinian-owned structures are demolished every year by the Israeli authorities on the grounds that they were built without the required permits. But many Palestinians say Israel limits construction to push them out of East Jerusalem...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/world/middleeast/01jerusalem.html
Does that sound like Israel treats everyone the same way? The Palestinians above are Israeli citizens, but they can't live in their homes and they can't build new ones. Imagine how Israel treats their non-citizens....
Israel intends to continue demolishing Palestinian homes and building Israeli homes. This is the root cause of the conflict and its been going on for over 60 years. Until the ethnic cleansing issue and the issue of nearly 5 million displaced people has been resolved in a fair and just manner, this area will not have peace.
Israel's leaders have no interest in peace. They won't come out and say so openly, because they depend on the sympathy of people like yourself and billions in US military and economic aid to continue taking more and more land. But Israel's leaders understand good PR and that if they take Palestine a home a time, most people outside of the area won't notice even when all that's left of Palestine is a collection of open air prisons, which is where we are today, more or less.
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Israel’s “Existential Threats”
By Dina Jadallah
Global Research, May 28, 2009
The last few days have witnessed an inflection point in the history of Israel. It has effectively shed its democratic veneer and blatantly embraced its racist, fascist and colonialist ideology. I am referring to the passage of three bills in the Knesset. One would require loyalty oaths to maintain citizenship. A second states that citizens must recognize Israel as a Jewish state or else face up to one year in prison. And the third makes commemoration of the Nakba (Catastrophe – referring to the creation of Israel in 1948) a crime. (1) These come on the heels of PM Netanyahu’s demands that the Palestinians must recognize Israel as a State for the Jewish People in return for “economic development.” These steps were all taken ostensibly to counteract Israel’s “existential threats,” which include the “demographic time bomb,” being “surrounded by enemies,” “anti-Semitism,” and so forth. The “threat” to Israel is real. But not because of its proclaimed reasons. The central and unacknowledged “threat” is that it is natural and inevitable that there will be Resistance from the victims of Zionist praxis. Israel’s “existential” dilemma can only be resolved within universal ethical parameters.
And yet, as outrageous and revolting as the above developments are, there is an underlying silver lining. Namely, the quality of Israel’s conduct has now reached a new low from which it will be hard to emerge. These developments cap a demonstrated weakening of its overwhelming regional military power, both in terms of deterrence capacity and execution, which has resulted in its growing inability to use aggression in order to achieve political goals.
There is an irony in being unjust, racist, colonialist, expansionist, murderously brutal, and unapologetic and still expecting an “existential” free-ride. Adding insult to irony is that the above statement would be a moral and ethical given, but is frequently qualified or denied when applied to Israel. It is, after all, the only state to claim a “right to exist.” There are two main reasons for this. First is Israel’s self-designated status as the sine qua non Victim -- historically, presently, existentially, and perpetually – placing it outside of moral equivalence. And second is the international balance of power (BOP) which accepts and encourages its actions because they often serve larger strategic goals.
Denying Palestinian Dispossession While Pursuing “Peace”-ful Solutions To “Existential Threats”
Israel and its sponsors have relied on a BOP approach to “peace” in order to address these “existential threats.” Ever since its establishment in 1948, Israel has dominated the region militarily. This dominance made them useful to international powers – first England, then United States. Whatever “solution” the Israelis proposed served as the basis of a “peace” formula that was to be implemented. The most significant result has been the categorical denial of the Nakba and of Israel’s responsibility for dispossessing and uprooting the Palestinians.
From the outset, a solution was impossible because Israel made sure that, institutionally, the refugees do not exist. Fearing their repatriation, Israel insisted that the UN’s International Refugee
By Dina Jadallah
Global Research, May 28, 2009
The last few days have witnessed an inflection point in the history of Israel. It has effectively shed its democratic veneer and blatantly embraced its racist, fascist and colonialist ideology. I am referring to the passage of three bills in the Knesset. One would require loyalty oaths to maintain citizenship. A second states that citizens must recognize Israel as a Jewish state or else face up to one year in prison. And the third makes commemoration of the Nakba (Catastrophe – referring to the creation of Israel in 1948) a crime. (1) These come on the heels of PM Netanyahu’s demands that the Palestinians must recognize Israel as a State for the Jewish People in return for “economic development.” These steps were all taken ostensibly to counteract Israel’s “existential threats,” which include the “demographic time bomb,” being “surrounded by enemies,” “anti-Semitism,” and so forth. The “threat” to Israel is real. But not because of its proclaimed reasons. The central and unacknowledged “threat” is that it is natural and inevitable that there will be Resistance from the victims of Zionist praxis. Israel’s “existential” dilemma can only be resolved within universal ethical parameters.
And yet, as outrageous and revolting as the above developments are, there is an underlying silver lining. Namely, the quality of Israel’s conduct has now reached a new low from which it will be hard to emerge. These developments cap a demonstrated weakening of its overwhelming regional military power, both in terms of deterrence capacity and execution, which has resulted in its growing inability to use aggression in order to achieve political goals.
There is an irony in being unjust, racist, colonialist, expansionist, murderously brutal, and unapologetic and still expecting an “existential” free-ride. Adding insult to irony is that the above statement would be a moral and ethical given, but is frequently qualified or denied when applied to Israel. It is, after all, the only state to claim a “right to exist.” There are two main reasons for this. First is Israel’s self-designated status as the sine qua non Victim -- historically, presently, existentially, and perpetually – placing it outside of moral equivalence. And second is the international balance of power (BOP) which accepts and encourages its actions because they often serve larger strategic goals.
Denying Palestinian Dispossession While Pursuing “Peace”-ful Solutions To “Existential Threats”
Israel and its sponsors have relied on a BOP approach to “peace” in order to address these “existential threats.” Ever since its establishment in 1948, Israel has dominated the region militarily. This dominance made them useful to international powers – first England, then United States. Whatever “solution” the Israelis proposed served as the basis of a “peace” formula that was to be implemented. The most significant result has been the categorical denial of the Nakba and of Israel’s responsibility for dispossessing and uprooting the Palestinians.
From the outset, a solution was impossible because Israel made sure that, institutionally, the refugees do not exist. Fearing their repatriation, Israel insisted that the UN’s International Refugee
PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED
Why all this talk about a people who never existed as a nation and do not now. Guess some of you never read the following.
PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED
Why all this talk about a people who never existed as a nation and do not now. Guess some of you never read the following.
PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED
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Great link IS! More from the same site:
Sounds like your kind of website. Full of hate and prejudice, just like you.
The fact is, nearly a million people were ethnically cleansed from this area during Israel's creation. These people and their descendents have no rights or citizenship. They live in extreme poverty under a constant state of attack. The minority who managed to stay in Israel after the 1947-49 ethnic cleansing war are second class citizens in the Zionist State of Israel. They face persecution, home demolitions, restrictions on where they can travel, live, work... They have less access to education and other social services. They face a growing movement within Israel to be forcefully removed in order to make Israel a pure Jewish state.
I could rebut the crap you post, but instead I'll just post a summary of the situation by Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Amnesty International which is a far more objective and informative than "All about Muhammad"
Amnesty International 2009 Annual Report regarding Israel and the Occupied Territories:
The first step to solving a problem is to recognize the problem.
The problem is that Palestinians suffer oppression and injustice at the hands of Zionists for over 60 years. While the Zionist State of Israel continues to practice ethnic cleansing and deny Palestinians fundamental human rights, this area will continue to be a war zone.
I also recommend this OpEd:
MJ Rosenberg: Another West Bank Settlement Expansion: Silence = Death
To summarize it points out how Israeli scientists have made a breakthrough in cancer detection. This discovery is an example of the potential of Israelis to improve the world. Unfortunately most of Israel's resources are wasted on waging war with their neighbors and ethnic cleansing. As a result, everyone including Israelis are worse off. Eventually settlement expansion (aka ethnic cleansing) will lead to Israel's destruction.
From the Israel Human Rights group B'Tselem regarding Israeli settlements on land ethnically cleansed of non-Jews:
Sounds like your kind of website. Full of hate and prejudice, just like you.
The fact is, nearly a million people were ethnically cleansed from this area during Israel's creation. These people and their descendents have no rights or citizenship. They live in extreme poverty under a constant state of attack. The minority who managed to stay in Israel after the 1947-49 ethnic cleansing war are second class citizens in the Zionist State of Israel. They face persecution, home demolitions, restrictions on where they can travel, live, work... They have less access to education and other social services. They face a growing movement within Israel to be forcefully removed in order to make Israel a pure Jewish state.
I could rebut the crap you post, but instead I'll just post a summary of the situation by Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Amnesty International which is a far more objective and informative than "All about Muhammad"
Amnesty International 2009 Annual Report regarding Israel and the Occupied Territories:
The first step to solving a problem is to recognize the problem.
The problem is that Palestinians suffer oppression and injustice at the hands of Zionists for over 60 years. While the Zionist State of Israel continues to practice ethnic cleansing and deny Palestinians fundamental human rights, this area will continue to be a war zone.
I also recommend this OpEd:
MJ Rosenberg: Another West Bank Settlement Expansion: Silence = Death
To summarize it points out how Israeli scientists have made a breakthrough in cancer detection. This discovery is an example of the potential of Israelis to improve the world. Unfortunately most of Israel's resources are wasted on waging war with their neighbors and ethnic cleansing. As a result, everyone including Israelis are worse off. Eventually settlement expansion (aka ethnic cleansing) will lead to Israel's destruction.
From the Israel Human Rights group B'Tselem regarding Israeli settlements on land ethnically cleansed of non-Jews:
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More and more people are begining to realize the truth about what's going on in Israel and the occupied territories. Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity are becoming well known. Zionists may control the news media, but they don't control the internet.
People looking for answers to IS's misinformation and hate propaganda should check out this Jewish Website:
Jewish Voice for Peace:
Israeli Palestinian Conflict 101http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/publish/101conflict.shtml#1
People looking for answers to IS's misinformation and hate propaganda should check out this Jewish Website:
Jewish Voice for Peace:
Israeli Palestinian Conflict 101http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/publish/101conflict.shtml#1
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It's exactly what's stopped any progression of peace.
Right and wrong have to be thrown out the window for the sake of life sometimes.
In order to solve a problem, you first have to recognize the problem.
The root cause of this areas problems are Israel's injustice and oppression. Everything else is a chain reaction.
How would it be possible to end Apratheid without recognizing that racism and white supremecy is the root cause?
How do you stop the Rwandan genocide without recognizing that armed Hutus were slaughtering Tutsis?