Oh yes, with over 1 billion people in the Church, and membership increasing, we sure are in danger of that=---puh--leeese.
How can we get rid of our sinfulness?
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Oh yes, with over 1 billion people in the Church, and membership increasing, we sure are in danger of that=---puh--leeese.
I am going to answer this under the thread CATHOLIC DISCUSSIONS as it seems more appropriate in that spot.
I won't reply in 'catholic discussion' because that is not an area in which I should post. It is not for rebuttals to religion and this thread is as will be noticed by many of the comments. Sorry. If you want to start a new thread in which atheists and agnostics are welcome then do so, otherwise be content with your refusal to argue charges made against your beliefs by me.
You really do see things from your own narrow perspective, eh? He answered your "charges". You just refuse to reply.
As a non believer, I have been reading all sorts of posts, and noticed "blunt' arguements between
religions.
If I was a believer, I would not know who to cling to, as they just sound like different approaches
to the same believe system.
Not unlike "advertising" of material items, they all say that "their product is the best".
But, I will keep reading, I like the "variety" of opinions, believers and non believers, doesn't matter.
religions.
If I was a believer, I would not know who to cling to, as they just sound like different approaches
to the same believe system.
Not unlike "advertising" of material items, they all say that "their product is the best".
But, I will keep reading, I like the "variety" of opinions, believers and non believers, doesn't matter.
That is certainly not an issue with me. He is somewhat notorious for making generalized statements with an inability to substantiate his claims with facts.
And likewise for you. This not about me and personal attacks against my character. I suggest that you stay with the topic. I have no desire to attack you personally but I will attack your religion because I believe it is harmful to humanity. See my new thread on Catholism's huge decline.
No thank you. I answered your erroneous and generalized statements already in the appropriate place.
You seem to make it your purpose in life to proselytize, yet you tell others to accept you as is?
You don't judge others? How is it that you can tell them that you are superior to them, then (that they aren't as spiritual as you)? I'd suggest that is bearing false witness.
I was wondering when you were going to respond.
My purpose it to declare, proclaim and share Christ with as many as I can.
I don't belong to any organized religion therefore I can not persuade any to convert.
If someone were to look into the possibility of who Christ is by my message, then Christ via the Holy Spirit would convict that heart and change it to whatever He wants.
I quit trying to win over the world about 4 years ago.
I can only see what is on the outside of people, but God can see the insides of peoples hearts.
He then is the one to determine what is needed of that soul.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
If I come off as looking like I am superior, it is not because I desire it, but rather as how I am perceived .
Many of you have read some portion of the bible, but have not studied it, and others give it no credibility other than through the Catholic Church.
As for me, I have read the bible and studied it. It is my only reference to all that I have to say.
By devoting my energy to studying the bible, I have come away learning many new things which are not thought; even from in the main stream Baptists and the likes.
So, if I am perceived as superior in knowledge, than so be it. But with all humbleness and compassion, I share my thoughts with you all for your edification.
I have nothing to gain other than top please my Lord.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Hun, give your head a shake. You're not perceived as being superior in knowledge at all! I'm trying to be honest with you, so I hope you'll read this in that vein. In fact, despite the many times you like to pull quotes from the Bible, the more you write the less I think you actually understand the Bible. I really do not think you understand the books you are reading.
I think your manners are superior and your knowledge of the bible is far superior to anybody else's around here. I think a lot of people have a lot of problem with people of superior intelligence such as you and me. Keep up the good work. I admire a guy that can keep it off of a personal level and address all the nastiness that is thrown at him.
respectfully, lieexpsr.
You want to know something? One would think that because we know the same God, Jesus and His words, that we Christians would agree more often than disagreed?
But as it is, we are divided.
Here I am spelling out love with a capital C, and am told that I don’t know anything!
Well, I’ve come along ways in my beliefs and not without effort.
The Holy Spirit has led me to believe that all humanity will be saved either now or at death.
Of course this will be misconstrued and labeled a heretic.
The reason I am here on this forum is to introduce new views that are consistent with the theme in the bible.
I knew that it was not going to be well received, but I also know that there are those who would welcome enlightenment. And for them I endure.
Christianity, as a whole, diverse as it may be, is a body that is growing towards maturity.
When adult status is achieved in the body, there will be no more wars.
Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
The end result: is as you say, peace amongst ourselves.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
The following scripture verses illustrate the Apostolic Succession of the Catholic Church and the establishment of the ministerial priesthood – Overseers/Bishops (episcopoi), Elders/Prebyters/Priests (presbuteroi), Deacons(diakunoi) – through the actions and writings of the early Christians.
Acts 1:15-26
In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) and said, "Brothers, the Scripture had to be fulfilled which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through the mouth of David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus—he was one of our number and shared in this ministry." (With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.) "For," said Peter, "it is written in the book of Psalms, " 'May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, " 'May another take his place of leadership.' Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from John's baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection." So they proposed two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. Then they prayed, "Lord, you know everyone's heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs." Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.
Acts 14:13-15
The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought bulls and wreaths to the city gates because he and the crowd wanted to offer sacrifices to them. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting: "Men, why are you doing this? We too are only men, human like you.
Acts 14:23
Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, committed them to the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.
Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
1 Corinthians 12:27-31
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers,
Ephesians 2:19-21
Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.
Ephesians 4:11-13
It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
1 Timothy 3:1, 8
Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. … Deacons, likewise, are to be men worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain.
1 Timothy 4:13-14
Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching. Do not neglect your gift, which was given you through a prophetic message when the body of elders laid their hands on you.
1 Timothy 5:17-22
The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching.
2 Timothy 2:1-2
You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.
Titus 1:5
The reason I left you in Crete was that you might straighten out what was left unfinished and appoint elders in every town, as I directed you.
2 Peter 1:12-15
So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.