How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

[mapleleafgirl]

hey sanctus, are you saying that is is a sin not to be catholic? or did i misunderstand you?

also, i went to a catholic church yesterday with my friend. it was a mass all in latin and was pretty cool. liked the incense allot. is this a normal catholic mass? why in latin?

last question, what about mary, the mother of jesus, i notice in my reading on religion that catholics and orthodox put allot of emphasis on mary, but protestants dont? why is mary so special to the faith?

 

[look3467]

No AJ, the Holy Spirit is one part of the Trinity, but He is not Jesus.

There is ONE God! Do you not agree?
God the Father=creator of heaven and earth
God the Son=God the Father in Jesus saving the world
God the Holy Spirit=the comforter who dwells in thew hearts of mankind

Yahshua is His name. Yah = Father God
Shua=salvation
Jesus' name is Yahshua which equals, the Fathers' salvation.
Which is God the Father in bodily form (Jesus) the annointed one, to be the Savior of the world, and the Holy Spirit of God, who will dwell in the hearts of mankind.

All this I just said is interpeted as the trinity of God.

The word, the bible as I refer to it as, does not specify or say the word "trinity", but it is indicated as such by association with the Father as all being one.

If I don't seek out this information on my own, what church in existence would teach it to me?

They all have an agenda that pertains only to the flesh, there by limiting the information that is truely avialable to us in the word of God, refered to as the bible.

If one truely wants to know God personally, study by one self the word of God, and let God speak directly to us, via His Holy Spirit.

In this form, there are"absolutely no limitations".

Come as you are, and you will not be turned away.

A promise by God to all who would come:

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

It doesn't matter who we are, if our hearts seek God, then we thirst, and His water is "Free", no stipulations.

It's all there in His word, the bible: Isa 44:3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

Dare I not take Him to His word?

Peace>>>AJ

 

[selfactivated]

There is ONE God! Do you not agree?
God the Father=creator of heaven and earth
God the Son=God the Father in Jesus saving the world
God the Holy Spirit=the comforter who dwells in thew hearts of mankind

Yahshua is His name. Yah = Father God
Shua=salvation
Jesus' name is Yahshua which equals, the Fathers' salvation.
Which is God the Father in bodily form (Jesus) the annointed one, to be the Savior of the world, and the Holy Spirit of God, who will dwell in the hearts of mankind.

All this I just said is interpeted as the trinity of God.

The word, the bible as I refer to it as, does not specify or say the word "trinity", but it is indicated as such by association with the Father as all being one.

If I don't seek out this information on my own, what church in existence would teach it to me?

They all have an agenda that pertains only to the flesh, there by limiting the information that is truely avialable to us in the word of God, refered to as the bible.

If one truely wants to know God personally, study by one self the word of God, and let God speak directly to us, via His Holy Spirit.

In this form, there are"absolutely no limitations".

Come as you are, and you will not be turned away.

A promise by God to all who would come:

It doesn't matter who we are, if our hearts seek God, then we thirst, and His water is "Free", no stipulations.

It's all there in His word, the bible: Isa 44:3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

Dare I not take Him to His word?

Peace>>>AJ

Morning sunshine!

Spirit gave me a grand gift last night! A dream! He sent me coyote as a teacher. Coyote is a trickster......the devil on 4 feet if you will. And coyote teaches us painful messages through nonsense. I cried myself to sleep last night wondering why I was letting a coyote hurt me and I realised I was being given a lesson. In my dream the old crone told me dont partake of the nonscence and coyote will snare himself in his own noose much like his Judas. I woke up with a calm heart knowing Spirit is just testing me and again I am to learn about hypocrites first hand.

I know for you its more like fighting for your beliefs just remember Love your Devil has full rein over even the self implied just.

You've a kind heart AJ that cant be hid.

 

[selfactivated]

The Canon was assembled under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, whom Jesus told us would guide us to all truth. What is in the Bible is the inspired word of God. What is NOT in the Bible is then what is NOT the inspired word of God.

Clear as day. . .

Yes it is clear as day. If it was "inspired" it was "inspired" by a male chovanist bigot. The entire bible is literature not fack if the gnostic is just liturature. The came from the same scrolls the same finds. Inspired? Inspired to segregate.

 

[look3467]

Yes it is clear as day. If it was "inspired" it was "inspired" by a male chovanist bigot. The entire bible is literature not fack if the gnostic is just liturature. The came from the same scrolls the same finds. Inspired? Inspired to segregate.

Sister, I wouldn't go as far as been unkind to our brother Sanctus, for we are all in the same boat.

That boat is the learning boat of life. We help each other out in this world as brothers and sisters.

It is given to some of us to know and understand truth, and for us to despense this truth in action, so as others may know and understand as well.

This world in unkind to all it's inhabitants, and has no mercy what's so ever.

Wouldn't we have some sort of good news to impart to help someone in need, who is perplexed by this worlds' sufferrings?

Truely love has no bounds, and judges not. If Sanctus (God forbid) were in a boat sinking in the middle of the ocean, would it not behove us to save him first, before we would ask him what he beliefs were?
Hope you didn't mind me Sanctus using you as an illustration of a truth?

There is a story I heard about a rescue mission.
There were six men whose boat did sink in the ocean and a call for help went out before it sank.
The captian of the air national rescue gave these instruction to the rescue team: Go out and rescue all those men.
The pilot of the helicopter,and crew, when out to rescue the men and returned with only five instead of six.
The Captain said, did I not say rescue all the men? Yes, was the reply, but one didn't want to be rescued.
Now, go back there and rescue him whether he wants it or not. I, I sir!

The moral of this story is that God sent Jesus out to rescue "All" mankind, and return with "all" mankind whether they accept it or not!

And, Jesus did as instructed!

Now, I know that many of you will recoil at what I just said, but then again, knowledge is the key!

Jam 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

And these words, not inspired? Where is thy wisdom?

Peace>>>AJ

 

[selfactivated]

You proove my words and you dont even realise it. I "save" many my dearest AJ even those I dont agree with thats what a clergy does. I will not be beat up emotionally or psychologically by any more priests. Wont happen.....if hes drowning I'll toss a rope but I' put earplugs in too LOL See my Goddess never said I had to turn another cheek. She says thats why she has a horned goat for a soalmate!

 

[look3467]

Inspired to segregate.>>>selfactivated

Segregation is at first a necessary evil, so that we made "see" what it is that segregates us.

How shall we know if at first we don't compare?

What is good, from what is not good or evil?

Once we can identify the cause, we can then correct it and unify.

We all are at odds with each other because we all have differnt experiences in this life.

But one thing we all have in common is: the ability to love.

We can love our fathers, mothers, sister and brothers, and some of our closets friend, but to love our enemies?

Only Godly love can cause us to love our enemies, because it is not and earthly element, but a heavenly element, that can........ be present in earthly vessels.

The whole purpose in life is to learn to define what the difference is between good and evil.

So we have to be deversified in our beliefs in order to pick and chose, and hopefully arrive at the final destination or goal, through our experiences, as desired by our living God, and that is: love.

I've arrived there. And I am working to help others to do the same.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[look3467]

You proove my words and you dont even realise it. I "save" many my dearest AJ even those I dont agree with thats what a clergy does. I will not be beat up emotionally or psychologically by any more priests. Wont happen.....if hes drowning I'll toss a rope but I' put earplugs in too LOL See my Goddess never said I had to turn another cheek. She says thats why she has a horned goat for a soalmate!

Why suppose, I have no argument with you dear sister? Your heart comes first before all that you say you believe in.
I see your heart, and that to me is life!

Deny not anybody your love, now, Im talking spiritual love, here. (for those who might take it the wrong way)
If you do that, then you will have complied with all the commandments that have "ever been written about how to", and will have aquired wisdom as like the living God has.

That wisdom in action, by us in the flesh, is God!

My words as inspired by the spirit of God.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[selfactivated]

Inspired to segregate.>>>selfactivated

Segregation is at first a necessary evil, so that we made "see" what it is that segregates us.

How shall we know if at first we don't compare?

What is good, from what is not good or evil?

Once we can identify the cause, we can then correct it and unify.

We all are at odds with each other because we all have differnt experiences in this life.

But one thing we all have in common is: the ability to love.

We can love our fathers, mothers, sister and brothers, and some of our closets friend, but to love our enemies?

Only Godly love can cause us to love our enemies, because it is not and earthly element, but a heavenly element, that can........ be present in earthly vessels.

The whole purpose in life is to learn to define what the difference is between good and evil.

So we have to be deversified in our beliefs in order to pick and chose, and hopefully arrive at the final destination or goal, through our experiences, as desired by our living God, and that is: love.

I've arrived there. And I am working to help others to do the same.

Peace>>>AJ

If thats your hook on it thats fine. Its not mine. The bible is either ALL inspired or None inspired. Its ALL Literature or None literature. Cant just pick and choose......oh wait! .........they did. Ive got to go to physical therapy......talk later.

 

[selfactivated]

Why suppose, I have no argument with you dear sister? Your heart comes first before all that you say you believe in.
I see your heart, and that to me is life!

Deny not anybody your love, now, Im talking spiritual love, here. (for those who might take it the wrong way)
If you do that, then you will have complied with all the commandments that have "ever been written about how to", and will have aquired wisdom as like the living God has.

That wisdom in action, by us in the flesh, is God!

My words as inspired by the spirit of God.

Peace>>>AJ

*hugs* AJ You are a real Human Being

 

[look3467]

*hugs* AJ You are a real Human Being

The praise is not mine to glory in, but gladly refer it to the most high, for He in habits the praises of His critters.
And guess what? He opens windows of blessings, sometimes more than what we can stand.

Love that God!

Peace>>>AJ

 

[talloola]

Do we really want to get "Rid of our Sinfullness"? And, is it possible? And, what would the world

be like if we did.

If we did, then what would "your" god have to do, maybe he could retire and lounge around on cloud 9

every day.

If we did get rid of all of our sins, would the world "then" be a perfect place, I wonder.

 

[mapleleafgirl]

Do we really want to get "Rid of our Sinfullness"? And, is it possible? And, what would the world

be like if we did.

If we did, then what would "your" god have to do, maybe he could retire and lounge around of cloud 9

every day.

If we did get rid of all of our sins, would the world "then" be a perfect place, I wonder.

id say yeah, because wed be better off without hurtng ourselves and each other.know what i mean. isnt that the main ting about sinning, that we are sorta hurting ourselves or other people?

 

[mapleleafgirl]

Yes it is clear as day. If it was "inspired" it was "inspired" by a male chovanist bigot. The entire bible is literature not fack if the gnostic is just liturature. The came from the same scrolls the same finds. Inspired? Inspired to segregate.

you say that but you post those gospel of mary things like it was true or something. who said the bible was chauvinist and what does being a bigot have to do with the bible teaching about gods love?

 

[Tonington]

Not to put words in Self's mouth but, perhaps what she was getting at is when the council met in Nicea or wherever it was, they had to decide what writings where worthy of being included in the scripture, and those times a woman was not seen as equal, being the source of man's sin. How is the gospel of Mary less true than those other gospel's?

Certainly the Old Testament is filled with chauvinistic hatefull writings, though the new covenant which Jesus made is seemingly more compassionate than that of the Old Testament.

 

[look3467]

Do we really want to get "Rid of our Sinfullness"? And, is it possible? And, what would the world be like if we did.>>> talloola;

Yes, it is possible: But not in this life time.
Here’s the reason why.

The whole human race is as like a child growing up.
It must learn through this world what its choices are.
But it is limited to age and ability to understand things which are spiritually discerned.(The church growing up)

The creation story is by God the knowledge of how He went about creating.
With in this story, mankind (The child) has to learn who the creator is, and is knowkedge is revealed to him comparable to his ability to understand. (Milk of the word, if you please)

Hence: and apple on a tree, which is never, mentioned as an apple, but simple enough for a child to understand.
(The creation story, by the way is not a literal 7 days.) That bit of news you should feel comfortable with.
As the child grows, his natural desire is to the flesh. Rebellion is his nature driven by the lusts of the flesh.
Enter: the Fathers rules and regulations in order to keep the child on a straight and narrow path, for his own protection.
But, because the Father knew that that straight and narrow path could not: in all humans be accomplished to His requirements, He took it upon Himself as a human man in the flesh, and prove His own requirements for us all, by meeting those requirements to a “T”.
If love is His nature, then He must prove Himself lovable.
Hence: He has to sacrifice Himself in the body of a man to prove Himself out that He is love to all mankind.
So, He in body form (Jesus) endured all the wrath that mankind could deliver unto Him, with out even condemning those who sped on Him, falsely accused Him, tried Him for blasphemy, beat Him, crowned His head with thorns, made Him to bear the cross for mankind, (AS King) and finally, nailed Him to that cross.


Then here’s the proof in the pudding, He said: and I will quote because these are the words from Him who has the authority to do so:

Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Mankind, priest and solider, Jew and Greek, believer and non-believer, all forgiven, for had we known who Jesus was and the love He demonstrated, we would have never crucified Him.

Humanity (Child) will grow up some day, and we are part of that cell that keep the body alive, until that child reaches maturity, and learns to war no more.
A master plan indeed!


Now, my dear friend and brother, either you help in the matter or hinder it, thus delaying the outcome to more sufferings or more wars.

Your choice indeed, which is in your right. Choose this day to whom you owe your allegiance to, man or God?

That is the question bro!

Peace>>>AJ

 

[look3467]

Not to put words in Self's mouth but, perhaps what she was getting at is when the council met in Nicea or wherever it was, they had to decide what writings where worthy of being included in the scripture, and those times a woman was not seen as equal, being the source of man's sin. How is the gospel of Mary less true than those other gospel's?

Certainly the Old Testament is filled with chauvinistic hateful writings, though the new covenant which Jesus made is seemingly more compassionate than that of the Old Testament.

God is at work molding and shaping, and what happened in Nicea was in man hearts to perform as inspired by the Holy Spirit.
We as humans know only what this world can teach us, and to overcome all our prejudices, we need to learn what God has for us to learn, and then apply that into our lives, thus making life a better place to live, for the moment, and making it to where our offspring may have it better than what we ourself haveit,...... and that they may learn by our mistakes.

That is progress is of the spiritual kind, for that alone can only grow in the hearts of mankind.

The world is "as is" but we can make is a better place, only if we learn to love as the Father loves us.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[selfactivated]

you say that but you post those gospel of mary things like it was true or something. who said the bible was chauvinist and what does being a bigot have to do with the bible teaching about gods love?

Maple you've misread me. I KNOW the gosple of mary is just a story just like ALL the gospels are just stories. The MEN of the time didnt add her Gospel because it empowered women Period. And the bible does very little teaching about true accepting love. It teaches sepratism and encourages hate against mant sections of people. Women, homosexuals, jews, mentally ill. MANY are not "good enough"

 

[selfactivated]

Not to put words in Self's mouth but, perhaps what she was getting at is when the council met in Nicea or wherever it was, they had to decide what writings where worthy of being included in the scripture, and those times a woman was not seen as equal, being the source of man's sin. How is the gospel of Mary less true than those other gospel's?

Certainly the Old Testament is filled with chauvinistic hatefull writings, though the new covenant which Jesus made is seemingly more compassionate than that of the Old Testament.

You did a much better job than I did Thank you Doll.

 

[Tonington]

You're very welcome, I think your reply was very good too.