Yeah. Well, you have to realize, hun, that what AJ says is only his interpretation and accept it as just that. There are plenty of other versions out there and you'll no doubt arrive at your own someday.
How can we get rid of our sinfulness?
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It's a human tendency to avoid that which makes us uncomfortable. I'd like to only be in places that are friendly, warm, without hassle, sometimes too, but I can't. I'd like to think that most of us stick it out concerning the rough spots in life, though, instead of escaping to the greener grass over the wire.
If you met me in person, you'd like me.
You do know what a parable is, don't yah? Why am I asking that question? Because if: you cannot understand a parable is because it is not spiritually discerned.
All this bible stuff is a parable if it is not spiritually discerned.
Let's take one as an example:
Question to you: what is meant by that parable?
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Understanding is having spiritual discernment, otherwise, quote: “quoting ten million bible things gonna help me understand what you’re saying”.
I just love ya-al!
Judging God?
Is God on the judgment seat? A professing born again believer leaving his family is not an example of what God is.
Has any priests of late being charged with any lascivious behavior?
Even if there was, that’s not an indication of what God is either.
We are humans, and we profess allot of things, but yet if we don’t have the strength of the Holy Spirit with us in the case of our professing, then we are prone to fail.
Why do you suppose then that God took the initiative to save mankind from itself?
Because of: our humanity.
How many people have being put to death over religion? Does that make God a murderer?
Absolutely not!
If the heart is not right with God, it doesn’t matter who one is, our humanity rules.
But if one’s heart is right with God, then Gods rules.
Rather simple.
Peace>>>AJ
Human nature is such that unless the Spirit of God gives us understanding, we are at the pearl of our own flesh.
Religion is mankind trying to reach God by way of the flesh. You are familiar with the temple in Jerusalem? If you’ve read the history of the Jews, you know that without their temple they have no place of worship?
Recall reading the passage where Jesus said:
That place is in our own hearts; our own spirits is where we worship God.
For what confidence is there in the flesh? Phi 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Peace>>>AJ
I'm sorry toro, I can not decern your intent.
A shower is: Shower : a method of washing in which somebody stands upright under a spray of water from a nozzle. Or, an enclosure or the plumbing apparatus for a shower, or in meteorology a short period of rain, snow, hail, or sleet, or a sudden spray or fall of something, for example, meteors, sparks, or bullets, or something that somebody receives all at once in quantity or, a party given by friends, especially in honor of a woman who is about to be married or is expecting a baby, at which gifts are given.
[FONT="]Which one of these would be suitable to what you are wanting to say?
If a shower of blessing, yes, I can understand that, or a shower of forgiveness, that to.
What I quote has to be in concert with what the theme of the bible as a whole say, and that is that God is love.
Peace>>>AJ
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Sanctus why do you keep posting bits of the bible at us?
IMO sin (defined as unethical and amoral acts) is ever-present, and cannot be "got rid of".
IMO sin (defined as unethical and amoral acts) is ever-present, and cannot be "got rid of".
I know what I am talking about, but perhaps your on the wrong thread?
Or if not, who are you referencing to?
Peace>>>AJ
.......... and hate and fear and jealousy an patience and compassion and ......... the same as the rest of us, because we styled him in our own image.
The question had to do with why is my using of so many verses in the bible, and why so many interpetations of them.
So as to mean, that the bible is not worthy of my representation, but only an authority of it: is.
Interpetations are a revelation from God to us, but must be in concert with His will and purpose.
Everybody has to a degree of conscience towards and of God, anjd everybody has to a degree, understanding as given by the Spirit of God.
And yes, God is discribed as having all those attributes (as you mentioned) of mankind. But does He?
Would you care to discuss some of them with me?
Peace>>>AJ
That depends! What made you think you sinned? Did the sin bother your conscience? And if it did, how can you wash that away?
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Mine ain't.
My degree is 0 on both counts.
Read yer bible. It says in there that he said, "I am a jealous god". Doesn't it say he wiped Sodom and Gomorrah off the planet ? Don't take me for some kind of expert on the bible, but I'm pretty sure I read that in there. Or were those just more parables? Or are your god's definitions of hate and jealousy and whatnot different than ours?
Personally, if I believed in such things as gods I'd be damned sure that your god was indifferent to the circumstances of people. Hmmmm, kind of like the rest of the universe. Could it be that what you're referring to as "god" is simply a collection of atoms and energies like the universe, but humans need to give human characteristics to things like universes and rocks? :laughing8:
Gilbert
Lets take the first one. Quote: "I am a jealous god".
If I didn’t know nothing about God, I’d say that god is as warped as I am. But, because I do know God (Capital G) I know why it is said that He is a jealous God.
I do read and have read and study the bible as often as I can.
Considering God to be real, for the sake of argument, and considering that He created this whole human race, would He not take care to see that His creation would be taken care of?
To hold: and to protect us against the elements: of the flesh by which is enmity (Hostile) against Him? And you say Jealous?
In order for us to experience good and evil, we must first be placed in an arena where evil is present (did not say that we are evil, but that the potential is there) in the form of the flesh, and that the light of good introduced so we would rather chose the good over evil.
Giving: us a choice.
Enter: The conscience.
Who told you were naked?
Adam blames Eve, and Eve blames the serpent, the devil. And many blame God.
The serpent said.
Walla, their eyes were opened and they saw they were naked.
Is God jealous? Of course! He wants us to choose the good over the evil.
How good is good, if there is nothing to compare it with, evil.
Peave>>>AJ
Read yer bible. It says in there that he said, "I am a jealous god". Doesn't it say he wiped Sodom and Gomorrah off the planet ? Don't take me for some kind of expert on the bible, but I'm pretty sure I read that in there. Or were those just more parables? Or are your god's definitions of hate and jealousy and whatnot different than ours?
Personally, if I believed in such things as gods I'd be damned sure that your god was indifferent to the circumstances of people. Hmmmm, kind of like the rest of the universe. Could it be that what you're referring to as "god" is simply a collection of atoms and energies like the universe, but humans need to give human characteristics to things like universes and rocks? file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/OWNER%7E1.ABE/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif
Lets take the first one. Quote: "I am a jealous god".
If I didn’t know nothing about God, I’d say that god is as warped as I am. But, because I do know God (Capital G) I know why it is said that He is a jealous God.
I do read and have read and study the bible as often as I can.
Considering God to be real, for the sake of argument, and considering that He created this whole human race, would He not take care to see that His creation would be taken care of?
To hold: and to protect us against the elements: of the flesh by which is enmity (Hostile) against Him? And you say Jealous?
In order for us to experience good and evil, we must first be placed in an arena where evil is present (did not say that we are evil, but that the potential is there) in the form of the flesh, and that the light of good introduced so we would rather chose the good over evil.
Giving: us a choice.
Enter: The conscience.
Who told you were naked?
Adam blames Eve, and Eve blames the serpent, the devil. And many blame God.
The serpent said.
Walla, their eyes were opened and they saw they were naked.
Is God jealous? Of course! He wants us to choose the good over the evil.
How good is good, if there is nothing to compare it with, evil.
Peave>>>AJ
Read yer bible. It says in there that he said, "I am a jealous god". Doesn't it say he wiped Sodom and Gomorrah off the planet ? Don't take me for some kind of expert on the bible, but I'm pretty sure I read that in there. Or were those just more parables? Or are your god's definitions of hate and jealousy and whatnot different than ours?
Personally, if I believed in such things as gods I'd be damned sure that your god was indifferent to the circumstances of people. Hmmmm, kind of like the rest of the universe. Could it be that what you're referring to as "god" is simply a collection of atoms and energies like the universe, but humans need to give human characteristics to things like universes and rocks? file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/OWNER%7E1.ABE/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif
Obviously, there was no breach there! Because there was no conscience to expose it.
And if no conscience there, then there is no spirit of the living God.
Technically, Dead!
Peace>>>AJ