How about them Canucks!

#juan

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The game against Edmonton was tied at the end of regulation time. The two teams played through the sudden death overtime
and the Canucks won a longer than usual shoot-out.
 

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The game against Edmonton was tied at the end of regulation time. The two teams played through the sudden death overtime
and the Canucks won a longer than usual shoot-out.

That's what I meant by "cut 'er fine". :smile: The win counts just as much as a score of 8/0. :smile:
 

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Edmonton is the team of the future and always will be!

they better do something about their defense, it is not good enough, and they need another
goalie, they certainly do have the nice young forwards, but they need some help, hopefully
next season they will do better.

I know they had injuries, but so did many teams, and the injuries do put a big drag on the
advancement of a team, especially one with such young talent.
 

#juan

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they better do something about their defense, it is not good enough, and they need another
goalie,

That game ended in a 2 - 2 tie. The Canuck shooters didn't exactly pour goals past the Edmonton goal tender during the shoot-out. I haven't followed the Oilers this year so I don't know their defense usually performs.
 

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That game ended in a 2 - 2 tie. The Canuck shooters didn't exactly pour goals past the Edmonton goal tender during the shoot-out. I haven't followed the Oilers this year so I don't know their defense usually performs.

Basically speaking probably less than 15% of shots on goal results in a goal, it would be expected to be less in a shootout given the goalie is generally more prepared for it.
 

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That game ended in a 2 - 2 tie. The Canuck shooters didn't exactly pour goals past the Edmonton goal tender during the shoot-out. I haven't followed the Oilers this year so I don't know their defense usually performs.

I don't make comments like I did from one game, I have watched them many times, and their defense
needs overhauling, those young offensive stars they have, need the management to help them out, by
balancing their team, so they can move forward and have success, they won't as it is now., and a second good goalie to help dubnick (sp?).
 

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I don't make comments like I did from one game, I have watched them many times, and their defense
needs overhauling, those young offensive stars they have, need the management to help them out, by
balancing their team, so they can move forward and have success, they won't as it is now., and a second good goalie to help dubnick (sp?).

I wasn't attacking your comment. Other people mentioned the Edmonton goalie and their defense. I simply was saying that
the Canucks didn't blow them away in the game or during the shoot-out. Edmonton's biggest problem is that they are a small
market team who can't afford their draft choices.
 

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I wasn't attacking your comment. Other people mentioned the Edmonton goalie and their defense. I simply was saying that
the Canucks didn't blow them away in the game or during the shoot-out. Edmonton's biggest problem is that they are a small
market team who can't afford their draft choices.

if they don't improve their defense and get another goalie soon, those draft picks will get to the
age where they will get a new contract, but not for awhile.

hall, eberle, hopkins, gagne, will get big contracts in a few years, not at this point, they are
still on entry contracts, for a while yet.

it appears they will get another high draft pick, which will be inexpensive for a few years, till
the entry contract runs out. They all get paid the same on an entry contract.

hopefully they pick a good defenseman from the draft, but then that player might not be ready for
NHL for about 3 years or so, as defensemen take a little longer to mature on the ice, it is a
more difficult position to grow in to.

chicago was a good example of a team who managed to win a stanley cup with many young players who
were all very talented, but then had a dispersal sale, as they could not afford to stay under
the cap when the new contracts came up, and that has worked very well, as they kept their core
talent, and brought in good lower paid players.
It takes good management to make sure good players come, but the cap ceiling is
kept in control, and the top end players don't ask for the world. Canucks have done
well in that respect, and that is why they let erhoff go, he wanted more money, more
than bieksa and other defensemen, so gillis let him go, good for him, and erhoff hasn't
done anything good this year at all.


edmonton can afford to pay up to the cap ceiling, and no one can go beyond that, so, a so called
small market team is able to compete financially. New York cannot pay 90 million any more to
buy players, not allowed.
 

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Probably the fastest game I've seen all season tonight-I thought Chicago had the edge in play since the Canucks looked like they were playing to not lose-a sure way to lose-they need more killer instinct.

Booth was fast almost too fast and he faded after a time-Classic Sedin play to finish the game-they slowed down play and then tapped in the puck making it all look easy as per SOP.

Happy for Schneider his value increases every time he plays-the Canucks are lucky to have him.
 

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yes, canucks had a stellar first period, looked like they were controlling the game, but that faded
and the hawks found their game all thru the second period, and schneider was great in the goal and
kept them in the game.

Very nice goal by hodgson, he is definitely a pure goal scorer, and that one looked nice.

Got to overtime, then the twins turned it on, but until the overtime they hadn't done anything at all,
and looked slow and behind the play all three periods, but just give them 4 on 4 with that bit more room
to play, and they took over, and scored a beautiful goal to win.

The canucks do have some work to do, there definitely was some gaps in the game, and the hawks 'to me'
look like the better team, so hopefully gillis makes a couple of moves before the trade deadline to
bolster the team a bit, and i'm not talking about tough guys, but real hockey players.

Canucks need some help on defense, and another good, strong forward.
 

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The Canucks were outplayed, but still won. the Hawks seem to have better stick handlers, the way they throw around the puck sometimes is quite amazing.

It may be necessary to trade Schneider for a stud defenceman. The Canuck D was coughing the puck up all night.
 

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The Canucks were outplayed, but still won. the Hawks seem to have better stick handlers, the way they throw around the puck sometimes is quite amazing.

It may be necessary to trade Schneider for a stud defenceman. The Canuck D was coughing the puck up all night.

not all night, but thru the middle of the game.

and canucks do have tanev in chicago to use at the end of the season, and all thru playoffs, not a
big tough guy, but a very smart, quick defenseman who puts out a quick first pass, like salo.
and when he finally is with the canucks permanately he will be around for years.
They also have canaughton in chicago, a more offensive defenseman, top scorer in the AHL for defensemen,
he and tanev play together.

schneider shouldn't go anywhere this season, canucks need him for playoffs, one of the great strengths
of this team is both of the goalies, we have to remember luongo's problems last playoff season, so
this year vineault has to have schneider to put in anytime he needs him.
 

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Tanev shore up holes from injuries, but he's not a game changer.

As long as mgmt plays Schneider when they need to and let Luongo sit at times. No one players wins the cup. It looks like they are as Luongo needs rest and is getting it. Dramatic changes shouldn't happen unless a great opportunity or need comes up.
 

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Tanev shore up holes from injuries, but he's not a game changer.

As long as mgmt plays Schneider when they need to and let Luongo sit at times. No one players wins the cup. It looks like they are as Luongo needs rest and is getting it. Dramatic changes shouldn't happen unless a great opportunity or need comes up.

vineault explained clearly why schneider played last night.

He knew luongo was going to florida to spend the week with family.
He spoke to schneider before the break, and suggested to him that he stay ready to play, as he
will be playing the next game.
He explained that schneider has no family of his own 'yet', not as much obligations during the break.
He also explained that this game would give schneider a chance to play in a high intensity game against
a top team, which he needs to further his career and keep him ready for such games.

Your're wrong about tanev, he played all thru last seasons playoffs, he is a very good player, although
very young, and it is my thoughts that he will be brought up for playoffs again this season.
He is much more than a replacement for injuries, but his youth and inexperience is why they kept
him in chicago this year, he is one of the top defencemen in that league, getting experience and
lots of games.

If they traded schneider they would seriously weaken the team, then they would have to bring eddie
lack up from chicago, and they would 'again' have an inexperienced goalie to help out luongo, no
improvement on last season going into playoffs.
Luongo seriously choked in boston in the playoffs, and although he has played
very well recently, who's to say he won't choke again in playoffs, canucks
must be ready for anything with him, he could be brilliant or he could bomb.

If they do trade schneider, they better get a top player who would make it worthwhile, don't think that will
happen, but 'never say never' I guess.