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I think Budaj was starting goalie for Colorado Avalanche for a few years so he should have some playoffs experience. Defender Subban played one heck of a game today - very physical & intense so Montreal's defense overall is still solid.
 

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Oh dear, my heart really goes out to that young goalie tonight. I really can't understand why they didn't put Budaj in the net tonight. I can't imagine the pressure on Tokarski. Game 2, down 1 and the next one is in MSGardens. Sheesh. It's going to be real tough going into NY down 2 games. Be interesting to see who ends up in net for that one. I hardly blame the kid for the loss as the Rangers were very sharp and the King was no slouch either.

I don't think of it quite that way. IT's a feather in Tokarski's cap, he played well (I thought, I nodded off waiting for the game to start and missed the first ten minutes)-:) He can't help what happened to Price, all he can do is play his best and I think he pretty much succeeded. Even if Montreal doesn't get past this round, they accomplished something almost as important................sent the Bruins packing!

Budaj just isn't very good for one and and neither is the Hab's management-they got where they are on the other goalie what's his name's back and now it's all over except the crying (& excuse making).

You might just end up eating your words, Bill. And if not, they got rid of the Bruins..................huge accomplishment!
 

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vigneault can be very proud of his team tonight, they came to play, they knew the beginning would be a
big push from montreal, and that immediate answer for the first goal with one of their own, shut the
fans up immediately.
lunquist was marvelous, and the rangers were so diciplined in their own end, and vigneault has always known
where the important part of the game is, and that is in your own end first, then the offense will
come from that.

how he coaches this team reminds me of the few middle years in vancouver where the canucks were probably
the top team in the league, as he coaches a very fast breakout team, fast skating, after doing their
job with dicipline in their own end.
canucks were a very exciting team in those few years, very similar to how rangers are playing right
now.
just too bad it all began to go stale over the past couple of years, not anything to do with his
talent as a coach, much more to do with the 'life' on the team, and the 'spirit' on the team, guess
it was just time to make a move, but in new york i see the freshness that i remember, and the steadiness
strength and calmness of the coach.

although lunquist was definitely the star tonight, his defense all around him, were a solid support and
i'm sure he loves them for that.

montreal played fine, put on lots of pushes, but overall i found their game to be somewhat scrambly and
not big entertainment.

the chicago/l.a. game was a much better game to watch, than both of these two games in montreal, the first
one of course because montreal didn't show up at all.
 

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Rangers go up by 2 games!

Habs put up a good fight tonight but goalie Lundqvist was a house afire for the Broadway Blues. Very intense match.

The Rangers are on a mission if the last game's are anything to go by, gopher. Up 2 and going home.
 

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montreal played fine, put on lots of pushes, but overall i found their game to be somewhat scrambly and
not big entertainment.

the chicago/l.a. game was a much better game to watch, than both of these two games in montreal, the first
one of course because montreal didn't show up at all.

Hab's best performance was in the last 5 minutes!
 

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I didn't get a chance to see it live but most of the guys I was with in a puck chat room tonight agreed that this was an accident, not an intent to injure:


Chris Kreider Runs Into Carey Price (5/17/14) - YouTube

a player who has the puck, and is skating toward the goal, has no intent in his mind to take out the
goalie, that isn't how goals are scored, he wanted to score a goal, and the rest was just a mess that
he did not intend to do at all, and once he was on his back sliding at a fast speed, i'm not sure
that there is any way to change your direction, one has no control, when in that position.
he kept his feet as low as he could, but had he raised his legs and feet, he could have caused serious
injury to price.
 

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The Rangers are on a mission if the last game's are anything to go by, gopher. Up 2 and going home.

I have to admit Price's absence has put a whole different light on it, but I wouldn't count them out before the end of game 4.
 

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I don't think of it quite that way. IT's a feather in Tokarski's cap, he played well (I thought, I nodded off waiting for the game to start and missed the first ten minutes)-:) He can't help what happened to Price, all he can do is play his best and I think he pretty much succeeded.

So, do you think the coach is going to keep him in net? And why didn't they play Budaj?


Even if Montreal doesn't get past this round, they accomplished something almost as important................sent the Bruins packing!
Oh well pardon me..........and here I thought they goal was the Cup. ;-)

I have to admit Price's absence has put a whole different light on it, but I wouldn't count them out before the end of game 4.

After watching what they did to the Bruins, I would never give up on them. They just have to adjust to a new game. The Bruins for all their brute strength aren't as fast as the Rangers - that's why the Habs got the best of Boston, IMHO - they were faster. At times they were like a swarm of nats around the Bruins. The loss of Carey will at least let fans who care, save some face should the Habs not make it beyond this series. Just as the loss of Lunquist would vastly change the Ranger's fortunes.
 
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I have to admit Price's absence has put a whole different light on it, but I wouldn't count them out before the end of game 4.

no i wouldn't either, games have to be played, and if they decide to play either goalie, really doesn't
matter, if habs had of scored a couple more goals, they would have been into overtime, and then its
anybody's game. its not the goalie, the team can rally round a different goalie, just like minnesota
did with bryzgalof, they played very solid defense to give him lots of support, and the reason
minnesota lost out in the series had nothing to do with their goalkeeping, it was the stronger
offence on the chicago team, they just had more, its not that minnesota had weaker goalkeeping.

habs have to play stronger on the puck, and make stronger plays in rangers end, so that they have
lunquist having to move back and forth from side to side more, but their team offence didn't look
that dangerous, even though they had lots of shots, doesn't matter, has to be quality, three on
twos, two on ones, the odd breakaway, none of that happened, rangers would not let them.
 

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So, do you think the coach is going to keep him in net? And why didn't they play Budaj?


Oh well pardon me..........and here I thought they goal was the Cup. ;-)



After watching what they did to the Bruins, I would never give up on them. They just have to adjust to a new game. The Bruins for all their brute strength aren't as fast as the Rangers - that's why the Habs got the best of Boston, IMHO - they were faster. At times they were like a swarm of nats around the Bruins. The loss of Carey will at least let fans who care, save some face should the Habs not make it beyond this series. Just as the loss of Lunquist would vastly change the Ranger's fortunes.

I know nothing about Budaj, just based on what I've seen I'd give Tokarski another shot. Yep, the main goal is the Stanley Cup, but if you noticed I did say "almost"-:)
 

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I know nothing about Budaj, just based on what I've seen I'd give Tokarski another shot. Yep, the main goal is the Stanley Cup, but if you noticed I did say "almost"-:)

no team can win much of anything without the goalie doing his job, but also no team will win anything
if they are depending on their goalie to do it for them, i noticed that the rangers scored 3 goals,
seems the offense did their job to support their goalie, habs goalie also only let in 3 goals, one
was weak, so if we take that goal away, rangers still would have won, not the goalies fault, offense has to find a way to score, one goal will never do it.
 

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talloola; said:
a player who has the puck, and is skating toward the goal, has no intent in his mind to take out the
goalie, that isn't how goals are scored, he wanted to score a goal, and the rest was just a mess that
he did not intend to do at all, and once he was on his back sliding at a fast speed, i'm not sure
that there is any way to change your direction, one has no control, when in that position.
he kept his feet as low as he could, but had he raised his legs and feet, he could have caused serious
injury to price.



The announcer did point out that he thought it was that last second slash by the defender that caused Kreider's misdirection, crash, and Price's injury. I wonder what that defender thought after he was taken out of the game.
 

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interesting, there are enough left to make up a team. lol

howie meeker, he just lives down the road in french creek, we use to see him at china creek, port alberni
when we went fishing, from time to time.

'golly gee', or' what's he doing down on his knees, picking up wooden nickles', two things i remember him
saying.

a good hockey player, and later on, an interesting character as a broadcaster.
 

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interesting, there are enough left to make up a team. lol

howie meeker, he just lives down the road in french creek, we use to see him at china creek, port alberni
when we went fishing, from time to time.

'golly gee', or' what's he doing down on his knees, picking up wooden nickles', two things i remember him
saying.

a good hockey player, and later on, an interesting character as a broadcaster.

When we lived in Parksville the kids were just merciless with old Howie, always imitating him whether he was within hearing or not. He had a few pet sayings, one I can remember when coaching the kids was "and you can't be doing that" -:)

Larry Kwong was on the news last night, he's from Vernon and played one shift with the Rangers back around 1948. He is also past 90.

I fished a few times at China Creek, pulled a few lunkers in the 30 lb. range out of there. Used to take the canner with us and can them at night while drinking beer, lots of fun. Damn near cut a finger off one night. Probably a good thing I quit doing that stuff. -:)
 

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there will be a press conference sometime this week, where 'trevor linden' will announce 'jim benning'

as the next general manager. he'll be a good one, he comes from boston,(not by birth, he was born in edmonton, a real canadian), where he has been assistant

general manager for awhile, and before that he was their 'head scout', and his knowledge of the

young players coming along is vast, which is very important for canuck organization, and also for

trevor who has been out of the loop for awhile, so benning can bring him up to snuff. not sure what

will happen with all of those in the scouting department now, with the canucks, maybe a reshuffle.

this is good news, no one coming in who has no experience, as was gillis, so as soon as this is all

done, the next announcement will be 'head coach'. i'm hoping for barry trotz, after i heard the

long interview with him, he seems just what they need, to fit right in, and pick up the pieces left by

torterella. what a huge mistake he was, as we find out more and more about how he handled the team,

it was sad.

i mentioned sometime ago that he didn't practice enough, and now that some players have come forward

and stated the same, it is a shame, that takes away the possibilities for big improvements in play,

but does give the coach more time off, which he definitely did take advantage of.
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team canada defeated norway 3-2 today, so now they will play in the quarter finals, they finished

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the press conference and announcement of 'jim benning' being introduced as canuck general manager

will happen friday.

i'll come back with 'time' later.