How about them Canucks!

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I wouldn't want to see either one of them go, and if they do have to unload a defenceman because of the
cap, it would probably be ballard, who is watching this playoff from the press box.
Ehrhoff and Bieksa are UFA's. Ballard's contract won't likely get him out of town.
 

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Here is a quick list of where we stand with salaries in millions

Forwards next year
Signed - Sedin (6.1), Sedin (6.1), Kesler (5), Malholtra (2.55), Burrows (2), Raymond (2.55), Samuelson (2.5)
UFAs - Higgins (1.6), Torres (1), Glass (.625), Tambelini (.5)
RFAs - Lapierre (.9), Hansen (.825)

Defense next year
Signed - Hamhuis (4.5), Ballard (4.2), Edler (3.25), Rome (.75)
UFAs - Bieksa (3.75), Errhoff (3.5), Salo (3.5), Alberts (1.05)
RFAs - Sweat (.65)

Goalies are both locked in till the end of next year. Luongo (5.333) Schnieder (.9)

I would imagine we will try to resign Higgins & Torres for about 2.2 and 1.3 and we will match on Hansen up to about 1.5 but if we win the cup these guys may stay for a bit less. Lapierre may also opt to stay for about 1 if we win so I think we are pretty healthy at forward as we have Hodgson at 1.6 and others to fill out the 4th line making Tambelini, Glass and even Torres disposable

Ballard looks like he will have to go to make room for Bieksa to get 4.5 (he has earned it) and Salo or Erhoff to get 4, if we can resign Alberts for 1.5 or less he will be a keeper too. We also have Baumgartner and tanev in the system who will both be in the range of 1 mil or less so Erhoff could be disposable unless he wants to stay for 3.5 or less. I am not sure at this point if I would keep Salo as he has averaged 42 games over the last 4 years.

We will have to have a good look at the free agents available after June and make the decisions then juggling some numbers. We will have the benefit of some guys wanting to stay for less after this year and that is an even better advantage if we are Cup winners.
 

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Where would Ballard go at 4.2? I can see not signing Salo.

It could be tough to trade him, he has a clause where he can designate 7 teams he will go to or no trade but its not like we have to trade him, we can just release him. then he is a free agent if he clears waivers.
 

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It could be tough to trade him, he has a clause where he can designate 7 teams he will go to or no trade but its not like we have to trade him, we can just release him. then he is a free agent if he clears waivers.

S.J. better be ready for Luongo tomorrow, he'll be at his best!
 

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Ehrhoff and Bieksa are UFA's. Ballard's contract won't likely get him out of town.

I know that, but obviously he is not vineault's favourite defenceman and he is making big bucks, so
gillis can cook up a trade if he wishes, then they can sign the other two.

Where would Ballard go at 4.2? I can see not signing Salo.

if they have to, or want to, they will take a loss on him, and move him for a couple of
prospect players, who will go to manitoba, his pay scale isn't too high for a team
looking for a 'good' defenceman, which he is.

It could be tough to trade him, he has a clause where he can designate 7 teams he will go to or no trade but its not like we have to trade him, we can just release him. then he is a free agent if he clears waivers.

if you release a player you have to pay him 1/2 his salary till it ends, I don't think they would have
trouble trading him, he wants to play, so he will be helpful finding a team along with gillis, so he
can play and not sit.
If he is put on waivers and clears, he is still a canuck, but has less power, and
he would have a one way contract, so he would be paid same in manitoba as on the
canucks, won't work.
yeah, will be interesting to see what salo is going to do, and if he doesn't break
something during the summer, and comes in healthy, he is still a top defenceman,
and I think they would welcome him back, unless they are too worried about his
health, and want to be done with him.
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well, it looks like that atlanta/winnipeg deal is all but done, just need the confirmation in the next few
days, so

now I'm wondering what will happen to canucks manitoba moose. they are owned by true north as well,
according to one write up.

what about 'winnipeg bisons' for a name, when we were there and had a bus tour, and also a tour of the
parliament buildings, there are two beautiful bisons standing at the foot of the stairs inside the
building, very impressive.
someone said they want the team called 'manitoba ---------' and not 'winnipeg--------', but that
doesn't coincide with other nhl teams, they are all named from the city and not the province or state.
fits football but not hockey. I like winnipeg in the name, and of course its all up to me. lol

I would like to see the abbotsford heat leave the fraser valley and replace them with the moose, apparantly
the heat are not doing very well financially, as they are the calgary flames farm team, and do not
draw a big crowd, but moose probably would, connected with the canucks.

any ideas?
 

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Yes, I agree, but if he again loses his composure, I am a little worried that one of our players might
be badly injured, and out of the game and the playoffs, he was a bomb last night, just waiting to go off,
but all he did was sizzle, hope thats all he does next game.
If they, again get into a position where they are losing badly, he might think, "oh what the hell, might
as well knock one of them into kingdom come, nothing more to lose."

Daniel could have had a concusion, it was that close, his upper lip and nose were bleeding, but he said
all was well, it is a fine line.

Sharks must concentrate on playing hockey, as their focus definitely was lost, and they concentrated on
things other than 'keeping' up, so we'll see if they can gather together their hockey talent, and
come to play for 60 minutes, and not 30 or 40.
The first half of that game they were right there, tied game, and the play was fairly even, then all of
a sudden it wasn't, for the last period.

As long as canucks continue to play with their game plan fully intact, and don't get caught up in anything
else, they will be fine, but there is a fine line between ignoring the ignorance, and 'having' to step up
because the atmosphere has become unbearable.

I do realize that the referees missed the high sicking infraction on thornton, but those things happen,
but I also noticed the two hacking jobs he did on kesler, which they showed us on tv, which also were not
called, guess they just thought that would even it up, there is 'math' involved in officiating. lol

Hope the referrees are 'up' to it.

I too hope the referees are up for the game tonight. Would like to see them jump on infractions early to set the tone for the game but leave them to play if there is nothing too blatant. I also am worried that the Canucks may well start to take injuries if thugs like Eager decide they have nothing to lose. Almost hoping for a low scoring game so as not to set-off eejits like Eager. If Eager is stupid enough to come out fighting - he better be shown the door to the rink and bid a not-so-fond adieu. He hurt his team badly last game by his stupidity and inability to get his nasty temper under control.

GO, CANUCKS, GO!
 

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I too hope the referees are up for the game tonight. Would like to see them jump on infractions early to set the tone for the game but leave them to play if there is nothing too blatant. I also am worried that the Canucks may well start to take injuries if thugs like Eager decide they have nothing to lose. Almost hoping for a low scoring game so as not to set-off eejits like Eager. If Eager is stupid enough to come out fighting - he better be shown the door to the rink and bid a not-so-fond adieu. He hurt his team badly last game by his stupidity and inability to get his nasty temper under control.

GO, CANUCKS, GO!

i'm sure bettman and his entourage will be in attendance as well, and whatever happens they will see it
first hand, don't really know if that is encouraging or discouraging. lol
 

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I think you may be right T, there will be a few takers on Ballard if we let him go. He proved to be a steady and adequate player throughout the season and I still don't know why he is in the doghouse.

I think the refs will be on top of any questionable activities tonight and I would not be surprised to see a game misconduct handed out early if Eager decides to be a moron again or even for his coach to sit him down for the game.

I am wanting to see another game where the Canucks can run up the score a bit just to totally demoralize the Sharks.
 

talloola

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I think you may be right T, there will be a few takers on Ballard if we let him go. He proved to be a steady and adequate player throughout the season and I still don't know why he is in the doghouse.

I think the refs will be on top of any questionable activities tonight and I would not be surprised to see a game misconduct handed out early if Eager decides to be a moron again or even for his coach to sit him down for the game.

I am wanting to see another game where the Canucks can run up the score a bit just to totally demoralize the Sharks.

I like ballard too, but I think I do understand why vineault chooses to keep him out. He is a great
skater, but he too often goes on adventures, and he is a small guy, and when chased into no mans land,
he is in trouble, he prefers rome, because he is a stable, reliable player, who will not get himself
into trouble, although we could argue that ballard is a more flashy player and a better skater, I don't
really believe he is a better defenceman, but I also see that rome is a much better player now than he was
at the beginning of the season, and he is also physically tough and fearless.
 

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i'm sure bettman and his entourage will be in attendance as well, and whatever happens they will see it
first hand, don't really know if that is encouraging or discouraging. lol

Can Bettman be relied upon to make the right decision? :lol:
 

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I like ballard too, but I think I do understand why vineault chooses to keep him out. He is a great
skater, but he too often goes on adventures, and he is a small guy, and when chased into no mans land,
he is in trouble, he prefers rome, because he is a stable, reliable player, who will not get himself
into trouble, although we could argue that ballard is a more flashy player and a better skater, I don't
really believe he is a better defenceman, but I also see that rome is a much better player now than he was
at the beginning of the season, and he is also physically tough and fearless.
I think Rome has grown a lot this year and definitely improved a lot from last year. He is starting to remind me of Bieksa a few years back. I think if he continues to progress he will become a top 4 D-man and allow us to let one of the UFAs go without too much worry especially when you consider the bargain of a $750k salary for next year.
 

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Can Bettman be relied upon to make the right decision? :lol:

just ask him, he has never made a mistake. lol

I think Rome has grown a lot this year and definitely improved a lot from last year. He is starting to remind me of Bieksa a few years back. I think if he continues to progress he will become a top 4 D-man and allow us to let one of the UFAs go without too much worry especially when you consider the bargain of a $750k salary for next year.

thats right, hope he gets a bit of a raise soon, not sure when his contract is up. Maybe he's worth
a million now.
 

talloola

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Rome is a UFA after next season.

Here is a complete list of salaries and how long they run.

CapGeek.com :: It's a numbers game :: NHL Salary Cap Charts

THANKS, I put that page in my favourites.

Rome should earn as much as alberts, I like them both, although rome has improved more, but he also
wasn't injured for so long, but alberts made big strides from the time he came to the team, so I
can see more improvement coming.

yes, they can definitely let one or two large salaries go, I wonder about samuelsson in the future,
one more year on his contract, so they will probably keep him around till he is a ufa. If he
heals up and plays like his old self, he is a good player, I wonder.

Hodgson and tambellini are out tonight, and glass and bolduc are in, and I'm guessing that vineault
is making sure he has some gritty guys playing tonight, if any of them have to 'fight', it will be
one of them, they will be the skape goats, as, if they are out of the lineup, doesn't make a big
difference to the team, we don't want bieksa sitting out any more 5 min. majors
or breaking fingers, etc.
 

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If it isn't a done deal with the Thrashers going to Winnipeg, the story will be one of the biggest non-events of the year. Fans are out in the street cheering and celebrating. CTV is reporting on the supposed move every hour. The G&M had an article announcing it was a done deal. TSN is reporting that the league states negotiations are still in the works, or something to that effect. But, a fella named Thompson who owns the G&M also has part ownership in the company bidding for the Thrashers. One would think that he might have just a bit more insight into where the deal stands than others. Hmmnnnn. Regardless of rumors, a final announcement of the deal is still being awaited from the league and the funny looking little guy who is always on his blackberry when the camera finds him - no wonder he can't make decent decisions, he's way too busy listening to far off voices. LOL!

There are far-reaching advantages to having an NHL team in the middle of our country. It won't only be folks from Manitoba lining up for tickets to games. Interest in hockey has really grown over the years or maybe it is a re-surregence of interest from old boomers like me who walked away from the game decades ago but returned once we realized that this was a game well worth watching again. Whatever the reason may be, there is a growing interest in hockey which opens up a much larger fan base for the team. Besides fans coming from Sask, there is a huge hockey fan base right across the border in the US. Then there is the merchandizing aspect. Fans seem to have limitless pockets when it comes to gearing up for their team and trust me, that gear does not come cheap.

So, if this story does not have legs there will be bitter disappointment in many areas of the country besides Manitoba. IMHO.



P.S. Me? I think it is a done deal.
 

bill barilko

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It won't only be folks from Manitoba lining up for tickets to games.....there is a growing interest in hockey which opens up a much larger fan base for the team. Besides fans coming from Sask, there is a huge hockey fan base right across the border in the US.
Funniest post all week-Congratulations.

A couple dozen people from Saskabushewan weekly and how many from North Dakota?

North Dakota FFS!!!!
 

talloola

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didn't anyone watch the game?

san jose came out flying, no surprise there, it's about time, were all over canucks for first period,
and canucks spent the whole night in the penalty box, some were deserved and some were not.

just about tied it up, but no, another penalty with a minute to go, came close.

we'll have to come out harder next game, and stay out of the box, and win the game.

don't think earhart will play next game, not sure about rome, i'm thinking he has a concussion, but
they have good defencemen in the wings.

next game sunday at noon

canucks played pretty good 5 on 5, but that didn't happen often, and twins didn't
see the ice enough, they don't kill penalties, so those penalties really hampered
goal scoring.





GO CANUCKS GO
 

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I did, Too many stupid penalties and too much thuggery by San Jose, Canucks should have finished them off in the third for sure. Luongo was just a little too soft, especially at the start.