How about them Canucks!
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san jose in town tonight.
they will have kyle wellwood in their lineup. He was in the KHL, (russia), they dropped him, he was
then picked up by st. louis, they couldn't sign him until he cleared waivers, but he didn't, and
san jose picked him up.
he will be centering their third line. He has an up side and a complete 'in the toilet' side, never
know which one will show up. I would imagine he will be pretty good tonight, as it is his first game
with them, so a good impression is in order.
He is the funniest player in my opinion, always looked like he didn't belong on the bench, a little
cartoon character, with the big eyes, and seemed it was a bit of a mistake that he was in the lineup,
maybe they got him mixed up with the stick boy, or?
However I wish him well, this will probably be his last chance to stick in the NHL, so he needs to
step up.
Hope canucks can be sharp 'first' game back from road trip, and that can be tricky. They weren't
that good on the trip, so they can't afford to take a game off tonight, have to get right back at
it, and with a win they can stay on the top with philly.
GO CANUCKS GO
they will have kyle wellwood in their lineup. He was in the KHL, (russia), they dropped him, he was
then picked up by st. louis, they couldn't sign him until he cleared waivers, but he didn't, and
san jose picked him up.
he will be centering their third line. He has an up side and a complete 'in the toilet' side, never
know which one will show up. I would imagine he will be pretty good tonight, as it is his first game
with them, so a good impression is in order.
He is the funniest player in my opinion, always looked like he didn't belong on the bench, a little
cartoon character, with the big eyes, and seemed it was a bit of a mistake that he was in the lineup,
maybe they got him mixed up with the stick boy, or?
However I wish him well, this will probably be his last chance to stick in the NHL, so he needs to
step up.
Hope canucks can be sharp 'first' game back from road trip, and that can be tricky. They weren't
that good on the trip, so they can't afford to take a game off tonight, have to get right back at
it, and with a win they can stay on the top with philly.
GO CANUCKS GO
other than the first period canucks were obviously a very tired team last night.
and actually if it wasn't for ehrhoff's blunder, give-away in his own end, they
could have won the game.
they can thank luongo for getting them the one point, and now they can begin
recovering slowly from the road trip, and a very taxing schedule, which by the
way continues on, but they are at home, so don't have to deal with the travel.
they were lucky in the last period, as burrows accidentally high sticked thornton,
drawing blood, referee didn't see it, no call, would have been a double minor - 4 minutes.
Calgary saturday night
and actually if it wasn't for ehrhoff's blunder, give-away in his own end, they
could have won the game.
they can thank luongo for getting them the one point, and now they can begin
recovering slowly from the road trip, and a very taxing schedule, which by the
way continues on, but they are at home, so don't have to deal with the travel.
they were lucky in the last period, as burrows accidentally high sticked thornton,
drawing blood, referee didn't see it, no call, would have been a double minor - 4 minutes.
Calgary saturday night
canucks just lost in a shoot out, video review concluded that the puck had gone over the line,
as luongo's pads went over the goal line, and it was obviously a goal, even though one could not
actually see the puck, but 'yes', it had to be a goal.
this was a very exciting game, took canucks a while to get going, but 'they did', and became the
dominant team, although calgary played very good, and the mood of the game was like a playoff game.
Canucks needed that kind of emotion to get them out of their funk, and now it seems to me they will
be playing much better again.
I watched calgary defeat dallas last night, and they played the best game I've seen them play this
season, so they seem to be finding their game.
bieksa was in a short fight, got punched right in the eye, never came back, hope he doesn't have
a concussion, he wasn't knocked out, skated off the ice quite under his own steam, but he was hit hard, and that eye probably completely closed up, he will have quite
a shiner.
beautiful short handed goal by kesler from burrows.
our defencemen are going down like the titanic, maybe salo's return is sooner than later.
flames 4 canucks 3
dallas next, then nashville at rogers arena
GO CANUCKS GO
as luongo's pads went over the goal line, and it was obviously a goal, even though one could not
actually see the puck, but 'yes', it had to be a goal.
this was a very exciting game, took canucks a while to get going, but 'they did', and became the
dominant team, although calgary played very good, and the mood of the game was like a playoff game.
Canucks needed that kind of emotion to get them out of their funk, and now it seems to me they will
be playing much better again.
I watched calgary defeat dallas last night, and they played the best game I've seen them play this
season, so they seem to be finding their game.
bieksa was in a short fight, got punched right in the eye, never came back, hope he doesn't have
a concussion, he wasn't knocked out, skated off the ice quite under his own steam, but he was hit hard, and that eye probably completely closed up, he will have quite
a shiner.
beautiful short handed goal by kesler from burrows.
our defencemen are going down like the titanic, maybe salo's return is sooner than later.
flames 4 canucks 3
dallas next, then nashville at rogers arena
GO CANUCKS GO
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This team, the Canucks, that had a lot of people excited about their Stanley Cup chances, has now lost five or six games in a row. I think part of the problem is coaching. Just a few short weeks ago the Canucks enjoyed one of the best records in the NHL using two, sometimes three balanced lines......Even a fourth line was getting a regular shift. The way the team is playing right now, nothing is working. The old saying; "If it's not broke, don't fix it." couldn't fit better. I don't know why AV changed the lines but do we not think it would be a good idea to put the lines back the way they were when they were winning?
Don't get excited #Juan, they've lost 4 in a row and three of those were O.T. or S.O. As life goes so does hockey - peaks and valleys, bad weeks and good weeks, lots of luck and no luck. When they win two in a row you will have forgotten this. What other team spends a month being first or second in the league? Very few! :smile:
What is annoying about the Canuck's record is that they are losing to teams they should be beating. A team that is in first place or second place should beat almost any team in the league unless their being in first or second place is just a fluke. I'm getting the idea that Vancouver was surprised to find themslves in first place. seventh or eighth place is close to where they probably belong considering their current skill level.
Let me get my umbrella up to ward off the bricks that will be thrown.......:roll:
A much more realistic view of the league is 'that', every team is difficult to beat, and doesn't
matter where they are in the standings, a very fine line is between the bottom and the top.
If you are going to think on the premise that, team 1 always should beat team 16
then you will always be confused, because it doesn't work that way. teams are
always changing, bottom teams work hard to improve, have spurts of wins, and when
they are doing that they can beat any team, but they probably are not consistent at
all and with the standings so close from about the 7th spot and down to about the
fourteenth spot, places can change constantly, and as the season goes on, it gets
harder and harder to climb up the ladder, but does not mean those teams are 'easy'
to beat, not at all, especially within one's own division, lots of intensity and
rivalry.
The injuries and the lack of scoring recently with certain players determined why vineault began
to make some changes, and I totally agree with that decision.
Torres for one, is playing right up to his reputation, a very spotty point scorer, and the way he
is playing right now, someone else deserves the spot.
Raymond played much better last night, and maybe he is remembering how he played at a top level earlier
on, and it's so easy to slip a bit, then confidence goes down too.
Tamballini hasn't scored a goal for a long time, he is fast, but lots of players are fast, but they
have to contribute points along with that.
The team was very deep in scoring earlier on, and now not so much, the coach needs to address that
and not just keep playing same players over and over, 'like marc crawford' use to do with the 'so
called west coast express line' when they had been floating for months and months.
And I like the idea that he switches lines around during a game, when things aren't working well,
as some players just don't come into a game playing their best, especially when the team is fatigued
during or after a long road trip.
I like that vineault plays players who have earned the spots he puts them in, raymond and tamballini
were both dropped to the fourth line, and deserved to be dropped, he tried shirokov, who played a
very good game in his first start, but the speed and physical aspect of the game is still a little
intimidating for him, maybe he will give him another start against dallas, we'll see, or maybe he
will send him back to manitoba.
There are so many details and small touches that need to be made with each game, everything isn't
black and white, and I think this coach has done a superb job this season, and if a bad run of games
is quite a few with shoot outs, win or lose them, thats OK.
Please remember that teams do not go all thru the season flying at the top of their game, not possible.
The defence is injured now, so some of our defence have had to play lots of extra minutes, when one
of them goes down during a game, and that takes a toll on each player who has to do that.
We must be realistic and fair and realize that the coaching staff know a hell of a lot more than any
of us do, and the team is still tied for the league overall lead, so can we whine about that.
Luongo has played excellent for a long time now, and has a great back up in schneider, and overall in
the NHL the goalkeeping is so good, much better than I have seen it for years and years.
And that 'not broke so don't fix it' thing doesn't fit this team at all, the scoring
depth changed drastically, before he changed anything, and the only changes he was
making were changing rome and alberts just to give them both games.
He is trying to create more scoring, that is the point of the game, score goals,
and win games, and when the scoring drys up, it is the coach's responsibility to
make changes.
Vineault is a 'very fair' coach, and rewards players for good play, and addresses poor play by dropping
players down to fourth line.
Who wouldn't want a fourth line with raymond and tamballini, that is a very fast fourth line, and
will surprise many teams who expect fourth line to be grinders and tough guys, well
that type of fourth line isn't quite the same as use to be, teams are so fast now,
that even the fourth line has skaters who can play and skate well, just makes the
teams deeper in talent.
Guess philly is in first place again today, as they beat chicago 4-1 today, a very
good game, I listened to most of it, watched a bit of it.
matter where they are in the standings, a very fine line is between the bottom and the top.
If you are going to think on the premise that, team 1 always should beat team 16
then you will always be confused, because it doesn't work that way. teams are
always changing, bottom teams work hard to improve, have spurts of wins, and when
they are doing that they can beat any team, but they probably are not consistent at
all and with the standings so close from about the 7th spot and down to about the
fourteenth spot, places can change constantly, and as the season goes on, it gets
harder and harder to climb up the ladder, but does not mean those teams are 'easy'
to beat, not at all, especially within one's own division, lots of intensity and
rivalry.
The injuries and the lack of scoring recently with certain players determined why vineault began
to make some changes, and I totally agree with that decision.
Torres for one, is playing right up to his reputation, a very spotty point scorer, and the way he
is playing right now, someone else deserves the spot.
Raymond played much better last night, and maybe he is remembering how he played at a top level earlier
on, and it's so easy to slip a bit, then confidence goes down too.
Tamballini hasn't scored a goal for a long time, he is fast, but lots of players are fast, but they
have to contribute points along with that.
The team was very deep in scoring earlier on, and now not so much, the coach needs to address that
and not just keep playing same players over and over, 'like marc crawford' use to do with the 'so
called west coast express line' when they had been floating for months and months.
And I like the idea that he switches lines around during a game, when things aren't working well,
as some players just don't come into a game playing their best, especially when the team is fatigued
during or after a long road trip.
I like that vineault plays players who have earned the spots he puts them in, raymond and tamballini
were both dropped to the fourth line, and deserved to be dropped, he tried shirokov, who played a
very good game in his first start, but the speed and physical aspect of the game is still a little
intimidating for him, maybe he will give him another start against dallas, we'll see, or maybe he
will send him back to manitoba.
There are so many details and small touches that need to be made with each game, everything isn't
black and white, and I think this coach has done a superb job this season, and if a bad run of games
is quite a few with shoot outs, win or lose them, thats OK.
Please remember that teams do not go all thru the season flying at the top of their game, not possible.
The defence is injured now, so some of our defence have had to play lots of extra minutes, when one
of them goes down during a game, and that takes a toll on each player who has to do that.
We must be realistic and fair and realize that the coaching staff know a hell of a lot more than any
of us do, and the team is still tied for the league overall lead, so can we whine about that.
Luongo has played excellent for a long time now, and has a great back up in schneider, and overall in
the NHL the goalkeeping is so good, much better than I have seen it for years and years.
And that 'not broke so don't fix it' thing doesn't fit this team at all, the scoring
depth changed drastically, before he changed anything, and the only changes he was
making were changing rome and alberts just to give them both games.
He is trying to create more scoring, that is the point of the game, score goals,
and win games, and when the scoring drys up, it is the coach's responsibility to
make changes.
Vineault is a 'very fair' coach, and rewards players for good play, and addresses poor play by dropping
players down to fourth line.
Who wouldn't want a fourth line with raymond and tamballini, that is a very fast fourth line, and
will surprise many teams who expect fourth line to be grinders and tough guys, well
that type of fourth line isn't quite the same as use to be, teams are so fast now,
that even the fourth line has skaters who can play and skate well, just makes the
teams deeper in talent.
Guess philly is in first place again today, as they beat chicago 4-1 today, a very
good game, I listened to most of it, watched a bit of it.
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Province sports columnist Ed Willes
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There is a belief that NHL teams win with their two best centres, their top-four defencemen and their goalie.
Then there's the Vancouver Canucks, who might be taking that theory a little too literally. Admittedly the Canucks win with their two best centres, their top-four defencemen, their goalie and another forward who's a virtual clone of one of their top-two centres. But you get the point.
For too long now, the Canucks have been trying to get it done with their best players and only their best players which raises a number of questions about their construction, principally, is this team really as deep as they've led us to believe.
Their strength, after all, is supposed to be their depth and its balance. You'd just have a hard time proving it by the evidence of the last two weeks.
Saturday night, and stop us if this sounds familiar, the Canucks got two goals from Alex Edler, both set up by the Sedin line, and a third from Ryan Kesler
Roberto Luongo, for his part, marred a nice night's work when he batted a rebound into the slot, setting up the Flames' Tim Jackman with a sitter in the third period. Lui did, however, draw an assist on the Canucks third goal. Then again, he's always been more of a set-up man.
In the end, it all added up to just enough to get the Canucks beat. Again. This time it was 4-3 in a shootout and most of the post-game dialogue will concern the video review of Alex Tanguay's shootout goal.
But there's a larger issue in play here for the Canucks and it goes like this. Three-quarters of their forwards are currently experiencing a longer dry spell than the 40-year-old virgin and that wasn't supposed to happen to this team.
More to the point, Raffi Torres, who hasn't scored a goal in 12 games, is third on the Canucks in goals with 11. That's largely because most of his colleagues can't find the net with a GPS these days. Jeff Tambellini is 0-for-his-last-13 games. Mason Raymond is 0-for-11. Manny Malhotra is not only is goal-less in his last 12, he's also pointless. The list is actually longer but there are space limitations here.
Now, some of the slumpers – specifically Malhotra, Torres and Jannik Hansen – are third liners and their drought is somewhat expected. But Alex Burrows and Mikael Samuelsson, who've been in a similar rut, play feature roles and their offensive contibution isn't just expected, it's vital to this team.
Burrows, at least, showed some flashes on Saturday night and drew the primary assists on Edler's second goal and Kesler's game-tying shorty. That performance was also overdue. The Grate One has just one goal in his last 10 games despite playing with the twins, who came into the game third (Daniel) and fifth (Henrik) in NHL scoring.
It's not that Burrows doesn't try. But, as he's noted, it isn't enough for him to work hard and provide energy from that spot. He has to produce.Last season, he put up career highs with 35 goals and 32 assists and, while it might have been unrealistic to expect similar numbers, the inescapable fact is the team needs that level of production from whoever plays with the twins.
Samuelsson also had a career high last season with 30 goals and the issue here isn't that he's repeated that campaign. It's that he's nowhere near it. The Swede has one puny assist in his last 14 games and, in this case, that's been an accurate reflection of his play.
Again, last season he and Burrows flip-flopped with the twins and gave that line two looks. It seemed one of them was always clicking which made the Canucks that much more dangerous offensively.
Now, however, it's Danny and Hank and hope they don't tank. This team was built to wear down the opposition with their overall speed-and-skill.
The problem is they aren't coming at anyone in waves. It's a wave and if this keeps up, you can waive good-bye to a lot of things this season.
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there is much of what ed willis writes that I certainly agree with, and some of the things I
mentioned are along the same lines as his thinking.
BUT
again, the media was just waiting for the canucks to have a bit of a slump, and they can get
out their sharp pencils and go at it.
yes, the scoring is down, that's very easy to see.
the team earned every point they have, as they played a wonderful series of games over the
past couple of months, and rose to the top of the league.
But to say they aren't really as good as anyone thinks they are is false, they
were as good as they were to win all of those games and rise to the top, it
wasn't a dream, it happened, we all saw the games, saw the depth, saw the scoring,
and saw a team who all came together and had a great run of games, that is how
the NHL works, that is reality.
now, that is exactly what any team would want in the middle of the season, those games are
insurance wins, and now they can deal with their down times, their scoring droughts, and also
some injuries, and sort it all out, without falling to the bottom.
it makes me smile when such conclusions are given about any team, whether it be a team on top of
the league or a team struggling, as the media conclude that the team must be much better than
they really are, or they are much worse than they really are, but they can't seem
to deal with how the team really is at the moment, they play one game at a time,
and they don't whine about the past, and don't dwell on the future, they prepare
with what players they have at the moment, and the coach coaches according to how
the players are playing right now.
I will be content to see the team as they really are, a good NHL team, who has had a good run
for awhile, and have had a bit of a struggle recently, which puts them in a position of most
teams, as none of them ride the top all the way, and usually don't sit on the bottom all the way.
The good teams stay in the top half, working their way up, and slipping down, but stay pretty
consistent so they will give themselves a chance to finish somewhere near the top, and go into
playoffs feeling pretty good about themselves.
willis is right, the scoring depth has dissapeared, and when he mentions raffi torres, his goals
all came way back at the beginning of the season with a very few drizzled in a little after that.
He is not doing well, and seems to me his brain has ceased to work.
I have not like samuelsson all year, and have said as much.
Burrows took a while to get his game back after missing ten games, but I like his game now, he is
contributing everything, just needs points, and his game last night was great.
They will have to figure it out.
I really detest willis's last remarks, they are only to highlight his story, for that is all it is,
a story in a paper to draw readers, and a hint that canucks season could be a failure.
that is sad, it dismisses the great season they have had thus far, and embraces the idea that they
are going to fail.
it seems to me that a failing year is much more exciting for any of the journalists, they are a negative
bunch, heard all of them, read all of them.
I will pay attention to the hockey analysts, (retired NHL players), who speak much more intelliglently,
when they analyze the team, and don't dwell on the idea of failure, but on what the team has accomplished
and what is happening 'now', and their look at what they need to do to get back to a more successful
season, like they were having.
They also are very aware of 'how' all the other teams are doing as well, and see the 'big' picture, and
know how it is for teams to play such a long season, with long road trips, injuries, droughts and
great runs.
That is the reality of an NHL team, they don't drag on the negative, they don't fear
failure, and worry that they will fail, they are mentally very tough, they face their enemy in each game with a very positive and healthy approach.
They study the losses and the wins over and over on video, and they all know what
their problems are, and what their strengths are, and how each team they will face
is doing at the moment.
I don't fear failure for this team either, they allready have played very well, and
I am enjoying their season very much, if they go thru a down spell, I will watch
with great interest to see how they handle it, and watch them get thru it and on
to more success.
I will not think of them as failing, a team of players who go into each and every
game with such energy and desire to win, and to do their best, will never fail.
That word is only for negative fearful media and fans who seem to worry and look
for all of the weaknesses, and forget the victories, and even seem to think those
were not real, but some sort of mistake, and we really didn't see what we really
did see.
amazing
mentioned are along the same lines as his thinking.
BUT
again, the media was just waiting for the canucks to have a bit of a slump, and they can get
out their sharp pencils and go at it.
yes, the scoring is down, that's very easy to see.
the team earned every point they have, as they played a wonderful series of games over the
past couple of months, and rose to the top of the league.
But to say they aren't really as good as anyone thinks they are is false, they
were as good as they were to win all of those games and rise to the top, it
wasn't a dream, it happened, we all saw the games, saw the depth, saw the scoring,
and saw a team who all came together and had a great run of games, that is how
the NHL works, that is reality.
now, that is exactly what any team would want in the middle of the season, those games are
insurance wins, and now they can deal with their down times, their scoring droughts, and also
some injuries, and sort it all out, without falling to the bottom.
it makes me smile when such conclusions are given about any team, whether it be a team on top of
the league or a team struggling, as the media conclude that the team must be much better than
they really are, or they are much worse than they really are, but they can't seem
to deal with how the team really is at the moment, they play one game at a time,
and they don't whine about the past, and don't dwell on the future, they prepare
with what players they have at the moment, and the coach coaches according to how
the players are playing right now.
I will be content to see the team as they really are, a good NHL team, who has had a good run
for awhile, and have had a bit of a struggle recently, which puts them in a position of most
teams, as none of them ride the top all the way, and usually don't sit on the bottom all the way.
The good teams stay in the top half, working their way up, and slipping down, but stay pretty
consistent so they will give themselves a chance to finish somewhere near the top, and go into
playoffs feeling pretty good about themselves.
willis is right, the scoring depth has dissapeared, and when he mentions raffi torres, his goals
all came way back at the beginning of the season with a very few drizzled in a little after that.
He is not doing well, and seems to me his brain has ceased to work.
I have not like samuelsson all year, and have said as much.
Burrows took a while to get his game back after missing ten games, but I like his game now, he is
contributing everything, just needs points, and his game last night was great.
They will have to figure it out.
I really detest willis's last remarks, they are only to highlight his story, for that is all it is,
a story in a paper to draw readers, and a hint that canucks season could be a failure.
that is sad, it dismisses the great season they have had thus far, and embraces the idea that they
are going to fail.
it seems to me that a failing year is much more exciting for any of the journalists, they are a negative
bunch, heard all of them, read all of them.
I will pay attention to the hockey analysts, (retired NHL players), who speak much more intelliglently,
when they analyze the team, and don't dwell on the idea of failure, but on what the team has accomplished
and what is happening 'now', and their look at what they need to do to get back to a more successful
season, like they were having.
They also are very aware of 'how' all the other teams are doing as well, and see the 'big' picture, and
know how it is for teams to play such a long season, with long road trips, injuries, droughts and
great runs.
That is the reality of an NHL team, they don't drag on the negative, they don't fear
failure, and worry that they will fail, they are mentally very tough, they face their enemy in each game with a very positive and healthy approach.
They study the losses and the wins over and over on video, and they all know what
their problems are, and what their strengths are, and how each team they will face
is doing at the moment.
I don't fear failure for this team either, they allready have played very well, and
I am enjoying their season very much, if they go thru a down spell, I will watch
with great interest to see how they handle it, and watch them get thru it and on
to more success.
I will not think of them as failing, a team of players who go into each and every
game with such energy and desire to win, and to do their best, will never fail.
That word is only for negative fearful media and fans who seem to worry and look
for all of the weaknesses, and forget the victories, and even seem to think those
were not real, but some sort of mistake, and we really didn't see what we really
did see.
amazing
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What surprised me was that they lost four games in a row(I thought it was five) and they are still in first place. What concerns me is that they are getting goals from the Sedin line and whoever is playing with them, not much from anyone else. It bugged me when AV started to move Kesler around before they lost those defensemen. The problem is that Kesler is a key player on the second line. I can see using Kesler on the powerplay but I can't see mucking around with a system and lines that have worked for the past couple months. That is what I meant by that old saw; "If it ain't broke don't fix it". There was a time when the Canucks were getting points from most of their players but not for a while. Right now they have to solve their defense problems before they can start winning again.
a shoot out loss is considered a loss, but one must be realistic and know that
it is one step up from that.
the only really bad game they have played is the one against minnesota, where they
were blown out, and didn't show up. all teams have one of those once in a while,
just write it off, and move on, and they don't dwell on it, but learn from it.
kesler has never moved off of the second line, but there has been a change of linemates to support
him. When players start drying up, pointwise, there must be changes, other players deserve the
chance. That is how it is done, if you contribute nothing, someone else needs to step in.
Tamballini has been in that position for quite a while now, and raymond also, and I definitely
supported both of them dropping to the fourth line, and it certainly started jolting raymond out
of his funk, I see him changing now, much more intensity, and not playing around the perimeter so
much.
Vineault doesn't bug me at all, but it does bug me when players are left on a line when they aren't
contributing to the success of that line, especially when it is a top 6 player. The second line must
produce, and if it is, there will 'not' be changes, the second line is so important, must back up the
top line, and that completes two lines coming on the ice right behind each other that causes the
opposition defence to 'worry'. Which defence are going to play against what line, and it helps
take some pressure off of the top line.
I just heard that bieksa 'might' not play tonight, so that is where the problems are at the moment.
As soon as the fight started, I said to my husband that I hate 'this', if he gets injured, it will
ba another defencemen down, and 'boom' hit right in the eye, now he is out.
He shouldn't be fighting at all, especially when their shorthanded on the backend allready, have
the guts to back away, it's about the team, not one player.
Against Dallas, we will struggle with a thinned out defence, they are a top end team, and we need
all of our defencemen, and now we don't have nearly enough.
But, that is the chance they all take when they step on the ice, so it will be interesting to see
how they stand up to the problem.
There are lots of reasons why teams begin to flounder, and it is not a blame blame situation for the coaches, it
is a fall off of point producing, and injuries. The coaching will continue to be strong, just as
it has been for a long time, the flow changes throughout the season, it is a hard grind, and
takes it's toll at times, especially when players are out of the line up, and also players play
with little nagging injuries. Kesler has had a bad thumb for a while now, samuelsson has a
stomach problem, and i'm sure there are others that we don't know about.
I will continue supporting vineault when he adjusts the lines as he always has, I love it, he is
very fair, if a player produces and plays 'hard', he rewards, and if it is the opposite, he makes
changes. As I said before, I use to get so frustrated with crawford because he never did do that,
and went with players who did not deserve to be there for long periods of time.
It's funny, because it's crawford on the other bench tonight, he has a very good team in dallas,
and he has admitted in interviews that he has learned so much over the years, and now he doesn't
scream and holler much any more, and does more teaching and positive coaching, much different than
in the past, he's not the same coach who coached the canucks, and he will be the
first to admit that. He jokes about himself, and knows what his faults were, and
he has grown older, been fired a few times, and now he is a much better coach.
Even when coaches are fired because of a poor season, or a big fall off and a poor ending to a season,
it usually is 'not' his fault, but the change staisfies others, and sometimes players just stop
listening to the coach, certainly isn't the case here, the team plays hard all the time, but
recently the 'balance' isn't there, as all players are not producing, and the depth now isn't
what it was.
I find it amazing that you will attach so much blame to a coach who has had so much success thus
far, and the team is still flirting with top spot in the league.
Do you actually expect the team to keep that level of play the whole season, that is unreasonable.
OK, that's it, I've said far too much, I'm starting to getting repetative and boring, so I'm out
of here.
GO CANUCKS GO
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There, everyone should be happy tonight. :smile: Those Flames are starting to get pesky- hope they don't have big ideas. :smile:
yeah, first thing I noticed right off tonight, was the energy level of the canucks. Back
where it should be, after that road trip they were very fatigued, it was quite noticeable.
Lots of jump tonight.
Glad Bieksa played, they needed him. Samualsson actually scored a goal, and looked
better, and thats good, and torres is on the 4th line, and hopefully he can be left
there, or in the press box.
Dallas started off strong, but things just didn't go their way, their goalie didn't
play very well, and the game really got away from them, but don't think that is that,
because we play them right after the all-star break, (next tuesday), in Dallas, and
they will be waiting for us, and will want to even things out. They are a good
team, but looked a little off tonight.
Yeah, JLM, Calgary is looking pretty good of late, seem to have found their game, so playoffs
are not out of the question for them.
GO CANUCKS GO
where it should be, after that road trip they were very fatigued, it was quite noticeable.
Lots of jump tonight.
Glad Bieksa played, they needed him. Samualsson actually scored a goal, and looked
better, and thats good, and torres is on the 4th line, and hopefully he can be left
there, or in the press box.
Dallas started off strong, but things just didn't go their way, their goalie didn't
play very well, and the game really got away from them, but don't think that is that,
because we play them right after the all-star break, (next tuesday), in Dallas, and
they will be waiting for us, and will want to even things out. They are a good
team, but looked a little off tonight.
Yeah, JLM, Calgary is looking pretty good of late, seem to have found their game, so playoffs
are not out of the question for them.
GO CANUCKS GO
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I wish a couple of these guys still played. Bure was a maniac. What an awesome goal this was.
YouTube - 1994 Stanley Cup Finals Canucks & Lamegers Game 4 - GOAL 2
YouTube - 1994 Stanley Cup Finals Canucks & Lamegers Game 4 - GOAL 2
how sweet it was, the most exciting player we ever had, too bad pat quinn screwed him out of contract
money he was promised, which caused him to leave, or he would have played his entire career in vancouver.
he should be in the hall of fame. it was figured out what his total points would have been if he had
played without all of the injuries, and continued at the approx numbers he had, and they would have
been great, and not a doubt about hall of fame.
the most exciting player I have ever watched.
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Yes, he should be in the HOF. He was the epitome of wheels and determination. Back to back 60 goal seasons. In the least he should have his number hanging from the rafters at Rogers.
yes, i'm hoping his turn is coming soon, but they will have to take that #10 from tamballini, cause
that was the number he returned to, didn't want #96.